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Post# 601255   6/5/2012 at 16:11 (4,335 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        

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I'm new to the group and love the topics info and friendships that have developed as i have looked from afar. I have a few twin tub machines and just finished a restoration of a Hotpoint 1400 that i bought from ebay. Finally finished all the repairs and love the look of the machine but won't use it to often as worried i will get worn out again. !!! I have bought a Thor semi automatic with pedals to operate between functions . The machine needs a total rebuild but i can not manage to find any info at all on how to dismantle or understand how it works. When plugged in it's totally dead. Does anyone have any info that they may be able to share with me. It would appear their are very few about , however i know some of these rarities exist in the states and here in the UK. This is a photo of the 1400 on the first test wash !!




Post# 601258 , Reply# 1   6/5/2012 at 16:18 (4,335 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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If you can post a few pictures of your new Thor, I might have some Thor service information that can be loaded into the Daily Doctrine Dispenser. Never heard of a Thor with Pedals, that's why I want to be sure first.

Post# 601315 , Reply# 2   6/5/2012 at 20:30 (4,335 days old) by kenmore58 (Rhode Island)        

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I'll second that, Robert. Let's see some pictures and I'll check to see if my Thor service manuals cover what you're looking for.

Post# 601382 , Reply# 3   6/6/2012 at 02:35 (4,335 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        
Thor Automagic 244

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Hi SlowSpin,

Welcome to the club, that 1400 looks great and the same as mine.

The Thor you are mentioning is the last model made, 244 which had the pedals to operate the wash & spin actions, they were great machines and remember one in particular very vividly as a kid on holiday. I managed to get hold of 2 of these machines over my time in collecting, but have had to let them both go to the washer heaven up above !!

They have a nightmare drive system, the wash action is gearbox driven but to activate the spin this is achieved by friction clutch, and this is where the problem comes in. Both of my machines have failed at this point.

I have the service manual if you need a copy of it. Good luck on the path ahead.

Cheers
K


Post# 601475 , Reply# 4   6/6/2012 at 12:22 (4,335 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
thor washer

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Thanks for your interest in the Thor. It's resting in my friends garage at the moment so have not started to work on it yet. It's really dirty and as i said needs a total refurb. please don't be shocked by it's state. It will take a load of tlc to get it up and running again. Thanks again Darren

Post# 601477 , Reply# 5   6/6/2012 at 12:25 (4,335 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
thor washer

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another very dirty washer

Post# 601492 , Reply# 6   6/6/2012 at 13:17 (4,335 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain)        
Hello!

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Hello Darren ! Great pics

Richard


Post# 601661 , Reply# 7   6/7/2012 at 01:50 (4,334 days old) by lancethecook (Driffield England)        
that Hotpoint came up great

Well done Darren, You made a grand job of that one.
I know where there is a MK 1 servis twin tub if you are intrested.
Still in good working order and not that far from you.
Call me if you are intrested.


Post# 601667 , Reply# 8   6/7/2012 at 02:42 (4,334 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Darren,
Just something i have noticed with your 1400..have you put an electric pump on the spinner side ? I see the water is discharging but the lid is open ??
Regards
Keith


Post# 601670 , Reply# 9   6/7/2012 at 03:21 (4,334 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
hotpoint 1400

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Your right there i had to fit an electric pump to the spinner as the pumps had rotten. All the usual soap and incorrect storage over the years had done the damage. There is a bypass switch fitted to the base of the washer on the spinner side that you can put on with your foot if the spinner is over filled. The emergency drain at the back of the machine is no longer connected but there to keep the look of the washer. . Is there any possibility you would be able to let me have a copy of your service info for the Thor washer. ?? Regards Darren

Post# 601671 , Reply# 10   6/7/2012 at 03:27 (4,334 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
bypass switch Hotpoint 1400

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Another view of the machines modification.

Post# 601692 , Reply# 11   6/7/2012 at 06:39 (4,334 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
restoria

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Great job there Darren, worth all the pain & toil....and if it doesnt budge - walk away, take a deep breathe and resume later!!!

I wondered how long it would be before someone would clock the spinner emptying on STOP!!

Looking forward to seeing the Thor rejuvenated!!, heres a scan of Mathews rather nice add brochure!!



Post# 601694 , Reply# 12   6/7/2012 at 06:40 (4,334 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Thor Parnall

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Post# 601695 , Reply# 13   6/7/2012 at 06:41 (4,334 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Thor Parnall

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Post# 601696 , Reply# 14   6/7/2012 at 06:42 (4,334 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Thor Parnall

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Post# 601697 , Reply# 15   6/7/2012 at 06:42 (4,334 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Thor Parnall

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Post# 601698 , Reply# 16   6/7/2012 at 06:44 (4,334 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Thor Parnall

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Post# 601791 , Reply# 17   6/7/2012 at 16:18 (4,333 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        
...Thor 244 - restoration

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Pic 1..

Post# 601792 , Reply# 18   6/7/2012 at 16:19 (4,333 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Pic 2..

Post# 601967 , Reply# 19   6/8/2012 at 15:07 (4,332 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
stripped down thor

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Dear keith thanks for posting the photos of your restoration. Does the tub have any fixings to hold it in place . I removed the agitator thinking that the tub would just lift off . It is well and truly fast . Do you have any ideas on it's removal. ??? I think there are some long bolt type fixings holding the cabinet together and attaching it to the chassis. If you could possibly help me with some service literature and advise that would be brilliant. Thanks D

Post# 602227 , Reply# 20   6/9/2012 at 19:38 (4,331 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i)        

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Love the brochures! Approximately what year are they? Looks like mid- to late-50s outfits the couple is wearing but the machine looks like late 40s early 50s...

Post# 602234 , Reply# 21   6/9/2012 at 20:12 (4,331 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
George Parnall and Co

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Was an British aircraft manufacturer that began around 1937. In the 1950's the compnay purchased Thor Appliances of Chicago in the United States makers of the Thor brand of laundry equipment.

Under the new company name (Parnall (Yate) Ltd) the company also sold many other domestic and IIRC commercial kitchen and laundry appliances such as dishwashers, washing machines, laundry presses and so forth.


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Post# 602305 , Reply# 22   6/10/2012 at 07:46 (4,331 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Not sure if this will help but I scheduled some Thor doctrine today, complete with a service manual into today's Daily Doctrine Dispenser...



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Post# 602309 , Reply# 23   6/10/2012 at 08:19 (4,331 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Darren,

The wash tub should just lift out, however the last machine i had (one in the pic) the tub had never been taken out, so it was a complete nightmare to get out, plus the balancer which the tub sits on had been joined to the tub..arrhh, keep trying it will come out eventually !!

Once you have the tub out, there are two bolts at 3 & 9 o'clock in the outer base, undo these, loosen the tub-to-pump hose and then you should be able to pull the whole outer tub off of the lower base. If you have a look at the pic i attached exposing the lower base you will see the 2 supporting rods which the outer tub sits on.

I have the service manual for the model 155 which is the machine i have, which i can photocopy and send to you ? it will give you an idea of the working's minus the foot pedal controls, which aren't to complex to work out.

I have attached video which i made a few years ago. I changed the wash tubs over from the original speckled grey one to the blue one from a 244 machine. This machine is in perfect working order and condition.

Let me know your address and i will get the manual sent on, plus any other literature i can fine.

Regards Keith



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Post# 602317 , Reply# 24   6/10/2012 at 08:58 (4,331 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
It's Amazing

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How much sugar the wife has to slobber over His Nibbs to approve of the purchase! *LOL*

Still the marketing of the period stuck to the tried and true script to get housewives away from semi-automatic (or worse manual) washing machines.

One still wants to meet the woman who did her wash in high heels, starched shirtwaist and pearls.


Post# 602689 , Reply# 25   6/11/2012 at 14:35 (4,330 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
Thor info

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Dear Folks thanks so much for your help and advise . I will need to get a bit of time off work to have a go and get the machine stripped and restored. Keith can I send my address to your email in your profile ?? Took delivery of a small Hotpoint Countess the other day so will get a few photos loaded. No more room in the house. !!! Thanks again . Darren

Post# 602704 , Reply# 26   6/11/2012 at 15:19 (4,329 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        
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Hi Darren,
Yep that should get to me.
Have faith in the Thor, they are great machines and to see one restored in working order would be a dream come true !!
Look forward to seeing the Countess pics
Keith


Post# 605284 , Reply# 27   6/21/2012 at 11:56 (4,320 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Thor Automagic

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Hello Todd, the leaflet gives a great insight into how life was and it is dated October 1958...It looks a great machine, all done in one tub with the ability to heat the water and to "Sudz Save" as well!!

Laundress - yes how much more do the housewife have to do to get here "Dream Machine"!!

Robert - many thanks for the "Thor Doctrine" its doing its job very well!!

Keith - great pics there, do you think the pedals version was more problematic than the switch model that you have??

Darren - Keep Kalm - Keep Breathing....


Post# 605317 , Reply# 28   6/21/2012 at 13:34 (4,320 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Mike..
Just sorted out the info to take into work tmw to copy and send on to Darren, the service manual is for the model 200 which is for the US model, but you maybe able to use it regardless and the insides are very similar, I have also found a Electrical Radio Trading extract, they did a weekly "Insight on Appliances" I have a few of these and they really do give a comprehensive report on the appliance in question.

I have to correct myself as well, i thought this model was the 244, but that is the model i have, this one is the model 260/260H. "H" being the addition of the heater. Which if you didn't know is operated by lifting the middle pedal, after the tub had been filled and spun to the lower reserve.

With reference to your question, I luv the pedal version, and don't think it is anymore problematic than any of the others, mine as you know is lever control and the model before that was a dial, they are all operated by wires either Dial, Lever or Pedals..the main failure with this model was the friction clutch & the special ball clutch inside the gearbox, mine hasn't got this.

As i have said before, i have had two of these machines and both have got the better of me :(

Hopefully restoration can commence soon !!
Keith


Post# 605480 , Reply# 29   6/22/2012 at 06:04 (4,319 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Darren.

A belated welcome to the group - cant help you with info for the Thor, but it looks a very interesting machine for sure.

Mike told me that you had managed to secure the version 3 Model 1400 Supermatic and had done a thorough restoration job on it. Flipping heck - so you have!

The machine looks superb, to say the least and if its anything to go by, so will the Thor in the fullness of time.

All power to you.
Regards
Paul


Post# 605501 , Reply# 30   6/22/2012 at 07:57 (4,319 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Darren,

Just noticed something on your Thor, it has the very first retaining knob on the agitator, the model you have should have the "Winged" version knob like on my model.

Maybe the owners of your machine had, had the earlier model as well. I popped the info in the post this morning.

Cheers
Keith


Post# 605576 , Reply# 31   6/22/2012 at 11:37 (4,319 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
retaining knob

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Hi Keith thanks so much for the info. When i collected the washer from the farm ( complete with animal effluvia ) the lady did say this was the 2nd machine her mother had purchased. It was the suds saving option that appealed to her. Perhaps this was from the first machine ??? will keep you posted when i get going on the strip down. Thanks Darren


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