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Post# 601638   6/6/2012 at 22:43 (4,340 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 601658 , Reply# 1   6/7/2012 at 01:35 (4,340 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 601664 , Reply# 2   6/7/2012 at 02:13 (4,340 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 601665 , Reply# 3   6/7/2012 at 02:20 (4,340 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)   |   | |
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Post# 601666 , Reply# 4   6/7/2012 at 02:22 (4,340 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 601672 , Reply# 5   6/7/2012 at 03:37 (4,340 days old) by hydralique (Los Angeles)   |   | |
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Those are so beautiful, IMO the best looking washer and dryer ever. I'm so glad they've gone to a good home where they can be preserved and the rest of us can drool over the pictures! |
Post# 601673 , Reply# 6   6/7/2012 at 04:11 (4,339 days old) by Spankomatic (Ukiah,CA)   |   | |
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Post# 601676 , Reply# 7   6/7/2012 at 04:59 (4,339 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 601680 , Reply# 8   6/7/2012 at 05:37 (4,339 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 601686 , Reply# 9   6/7/2012 at 06:01 (4,339 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 601690 , Reply# 10   6/7/2012 at 06:32 (4,339 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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WOW Phil I am glad you got these cool machines, I too have long considered this to be GM-Frigidaires best styling effort ever. Even though they were a little controversial and very unconventional I think it took real guts for GM to actually bring these to market, normally something like this would have come from a smaller company like Chrysler or maybe even American Motors. I also have a white pair of these in the collection, and I hear someone up in your direction is hording to only know Charcoal pair of these neat machines.
Phil you may have the only REAL Canadian pair of these, on my washer the model # is WI-57, I wounder if the C in your washers model # was for the Canadian model, by the next year Frigidaire added the word Custom in the name of their TOL appliances, WCI-58, for washer Custom Imperial for example. I always thought it was funny when we started seeing Chevy Pick-Up trucks in the 1970s with names on them like Custom Deluxe as it always made me think of an appliance not the butch image that one would expect on a PU truck. |
Post# 601691 , Reply# 11   6/7/2012 at 06:35 (4,339 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 601732 , Reply# 13   6/7/2012 at 10:50 (4,339 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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1957 is the first year of Frigidaire appliances I really like (I really like the 1957 ranges) but control towers aeren't my favorites (I really like the '65-66 Rollermatic, the 1959-64 Multimatics) and of course, the Custom Imperial 1958 models! But now that I look at mine closely, I have to say they impress me more than they used to! |
Post# 601733 , Reply# 14   6/7/2012 at 11:08 (4,339 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)   |   | |
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Post# 601738 , Reply# 15   6/7/2012 at 11:50 (4,339 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 601743 , Reply# 16   6/7/2012 at 12:15 (4,339 days old) by badgerdx ()   |   | |
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Stunning. Completely stunning. They look brand new (and surprisingly contemporary). Those would not look out of place at all in a spread in Dwell or Metropolis magazine, not to mention, of course, Atomic Ranch... |
Post# 601748 , Reply# 17   6/7/2012 at 12:34 (4,339 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Phil, I have total empathy. This is the machine I grew up with, always coveting neighbor Tom's Whirlpool instead. I thought the tower looked so ungainly, like a square-headed robot. The grass being greener on the other side, every other washer encountered was preferred to the Tower. I just didn't appreciate it. When it was replaced by a Custom Deluxe Copper Rollermatic, I was in heaven. Seeing that nasty old robot carted away on a stretcher was a happy day.
Only through peer pressure, advancing age, and nostalgia have I come to genuflect before the almighty Tower, but only if the color is rare: charcoal, gold, purple, pink, and green.
Your set, though, is stunning in white, and it looks brand new. Wishing you many, many happy 1140 rmp spins. |
Post# 601754 , Reply# 18   6/7/2012 at 13:00 (4,339 days old) by MaytagA710 ()   |   | |
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WOAH! Control tower set! They look beautiful. I am green with envy hahaha. |
Post# 601755 , Reply# 19   6/7/2012 at 13:21 (4,339 days old) by dynaflow (rockingham nc)   |   | |
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Post# 601793 , Reply# 20   6/7/2012 at 16:30 (4,339 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 601797 , Reply# 21   6/7/2012 at 17:00 (4,339 days old) by AutoWasherFreak ()   |   | |
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You lucky dog! Beautiful set :-) |
Post# 601906 , Reply# 23   6/8/2012 at 09:17 (4,338 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 601916 , Reply# 24   6/8/2012 at 10:03 (4,338 days old) by rickr (.)   |   | |
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Post# 602023 , Reply# 25   6/8/2012 at 20:41 (4,338 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 602028 , Reply# 26   6/8/2012 at 20:58 (4,338 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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I did wash a few loads with the washer, haven't connected the dryer yet (but I tried before I bought it). All I had to replace were the bulbs in the washer's timer and I replaced 2 of the 3 drain hoses. I got a molded radiator hose that was the exact match for the one from the outer tub to the pump.
I like how the water fills with the thermostatic valves! Hot, cold, hot cold...
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Post# 602051 , Reply# 27   6/8/2012 at 22:29 (4,338 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 602060 , Reply# 28   6/8/2012 at 23:10 (4,338 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 602069 , Reply# 29   6/9/2012 at 00:12 (4,338 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Patrick,
I did take shots of the tub but unfortunately, it has the wrong (jet cone) agitator. These were supposed to be correctly working replacements but the cap on mine hits the lid so I have to remove it (and the bleach dispenser). I wish I could find the correct agitator for it. I'm also wondering if the tub is original or if it has been replaced at some point. |
Post# 602073 , Reply# 30   6/9/2012 at 00:24 (4,338 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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Phil-
I don't think the tub is original. That shade of blue wasn't used until the rollermatic's were introduced. Have you checked to see if it still has the original transmission? Here is a picture of Jetcone's from way back. I'm not sure if he still has this machine but it is a good example of what the US made version looked like. Patrick |
Post# 602074 , Reply# 31   6/9/2012 at 00:28 (4,338 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 602075 , Reply# 32   6/9/2012 at 00:32 (4,338 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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I totally agree with Bob. The outside of the machines are what really catch the eye and they are in great shape.
You may be able to scare up the correct agitator someday but the tub is larger (12 lb. vs 10 lb.) so you actually have more washing capacity. I have also found the porcelain to be better on the rollermatics in my experience. Anyway, look forward to hearing more about the mechanicals! Patrick |
Post# 602076 , Reply# 33   6/9/2012 at 00:40 (4,338 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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It does have it's Unimatic transmission as well as the original fill valves and the tub is different from Rollermatic tubs (look a the shape of the ring which is flat). I think that early Multimatics with 9 lbs tubs had tubs similar to this one.
I think the color of the porcelain coating in the original tub should have matched with the dryer drum's color. |
Post# 602078 , Reply# 34   6/9/2012 at 01:01 (4,338 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 602079 , Reply# 35   6/9/2012 at 01:09 (4,338 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 602080 , Reply# 36   6/9/2012 at 01:09 (4,338 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 602082 , Reply# 37   6/9/2012 at 01:13 (4,338 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 602083 , Reply# 38   6/9/2012 at 01:18 (4,338 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Patrick, yes I had it set on small load (and I did pause the video at some point to make it shorter).
I have a '68 Rollermatic just like yours (a WN7 Gold Crown model) and the tub also has the ridge at the middle of the rim, just like in the later 12 pound Multimatic tubs. It's hard to see on your picture probably because of the angle. See my Rollermatic tub, I think yours should be the same. |
Post# 602084 , Reply# 39   6/9/2012 at 01:25 (4,338 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 602086 , Reply# 40   6/9/2012 at 01:30 (4,338 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 602087 , Reply# 41   6/9/2012 at 01:35 (4,338 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 602089 , Reply# 42   6/9/2012 at 01:41 (4,338 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 602091 , Reply# 43   6/9/2012 at 01:48 (4,338 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Then I guess the tub could be original... Maybe Robert can tell us more about it!
Have a look at the tub of this 1960 Multimatic in this old thread, seems to be very similar too, this washer is also pictured in front of a blue Buick. This one looks like a '62 Invicta. CLICK HERE TO GO TO PhilR's LINK |
Post# 602093 , Reply# 44   6/9/2012 at 03:16 (4,338 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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And a real neat designation on the WIC-57 there! That makes them extra special! The '57 was an odd year and as the cabinet was lowered so the tub was cut low for that year. I don't know if they carried that tub over in later years or not, Robert knows better about this than I do. But you could very well have a factory 1957 tub with Canadian porcelain, or it could have been a replacement tub manufactured in the 60's and installed but it would have to be for that particular machine as the tub would hit the cabinet if it wasn't.
Odd though that the jetcone agitator is hitting the lid! Sometimes they put rubber spacers under the cones and maybe yours was not installed correctly? Nice vanilla color~~ we should get ours together for a wash in! Yes Patrick I still have my white '57, it came off the Farm in Aberdeen, Robert found it for me and I am keeping it for good. Just rebuilt the timer in it. Yes John I AM hoarding that charcoal set!!------KERRRSLAPPP! |
Post# 602130 , Reply# 45   6/9/2012 at 10:16 (4,337 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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The U.S. porcelain was more gray in 57 but Jon's right, this could have been a Canadian made version of the machine so it may have been a different color. You have the machine, that's the important part, the rest will come.
I'm glad it's working, that's a huge bonus! Congratulations on a great set and rare piece of history. |
Post# 602132 , Reply# 46   6/9/2012 at 10:29 (4,337 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Jon,
I removed the agitator, removed the water bellow to see if there was anything like rubber spacers and there were none, there was not even a large lower cone support washer... And the agitator goes close to the bottom of the tub so I can't see how it could go any lower... I look under the cabinet and at the tub support, everything looks ok there too.
I guess I found what's the problem: |
Post# 602140 , Reply# 47   6/9/2012 at 10:54 (4,337 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Greg, the porcelain inside my dryer (which is also a Canadian model - DIC-57) is gray too and that's what I expected to see in the washer. Frigidaire often used different porcelain colors on Canadian models (usually black instead of gray or blue)... The picture of Robert's WI-57 shows a blueish tub too. |
Post# 602152 , Reply# 48   6/9/2012 at 11:50 (4,337 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 602158 , Reply# 49   6/9/2012 at 12:17 (4,337 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 602166 , Reply# 50   6/9/2012 at 12:39 (4,337 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 602168 , Reply# 51   6/9/2012 at 12:55 (4,337 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Its important not to compare the colors because the Canadian versions of the machines had different wash tub colors. While this tub could have been replaced, the tub in this '57 is clearly the correct version, just in a slightly different color. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Unimatic1140's LINK |
Post# 602176 , Reply# 52   6/9/2012 at 13:25 (4,337 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Again - congrats Phil on such a fantastic find! Who would have thought these would have been kept together all of these years.
To add to the tub color discussion - I also agree that the tub is more than likely original to the machine. However, published in the April 1957 Tech Talk, there is a bulletin discussing the change from the US grey tub to the blue tub - so in theory either tub color is correct for a state-side '57. Ben This post was last edited 06/09/2012 at 16:30 |
Post# 602178 , Reply# 53   6/9/2012 at 13:40 (4,337 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Fantastic information Ben! And I also just saw your email.
Can you tell me what kind of valves I have on my washer and if they're the original ones?
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Post# 602185 , Reply# 54   6/9/2012 at 14:36 (4,337 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 602189 , Reply# 55   6/9/2012 at 14:39 (4,337 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 602192 , Reply# 56   6/9/2012 at 14:43 (4,337 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 602195 , Reply# 57   6/9/2012 at 15:17 (4,337 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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My Gram's 55 Pulsamatic achieved warm water by alternating hot and cold. It was hardly a thermostatic valve. Our Tower Unimatic made warm water by mixing hot and cold at the same time. I should say that ours was a Custom Deluxe. Your Custom Imperial has a thermostat to control precise water temperature. Have I got it right? How cool! There was a time when you got what you paid for and your money's worth. The Frigidaire Custom Imperial in 1957 was just such a time.
The newest version of Kitchen Aid which wears a Maytag badge has this same thermostatic hot/cold, hot/ cold flow. My mom has one and it reminds me of my Gram's Pulsamatic, so much fun to hear it and so soothing. I could sit and listen for hours--a waterfall lullaby. This post was last edited 06/09/2012 at 18:09 |
Post# 602220 , Reply# 58   6/9/2012 at 19:08 (4,337 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 602238 , Reply# 59   6/9/2012 at 20:48 (4,337 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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My WI 57 washer does have a gray tub that matches the dryer, the washer also has the more conventional thermostatic inlet valve. But you are absolutely correct Michael Frigidaire did use the cycling thermostatic inlet valves here on Pulsamatic models, these cycling valves were an early electromechanical version of the electronic thermostatic cycling valves that were reintroduced on KM DD washers in the late 1980s. |
Post# 602239 , Reply# 60   6/9/2012 at 20:49 (4,337 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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My WI 57 washer does have a gray tub that matches the dryer, the washer also has the more conventional thermostatic inlet valve. But you are absolutely correct Michael Frigidaire did use the cycling thermostatic inlet valves here on Pulsamatic models, these cycling valves were an early electromechanical version of the electronic thermostatic cycling valves that were reintroduced on KM DD washers in the late 1980s. |
Post# 602445 , Reply# 62   6/10/2012 at 18:31 (4,336 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 602447 , Reply# 63   6/10/2012 at 18:33 (4,336 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 602542 , Reply# 64   6/10/2012 at 23:18 (4,336 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 602543 , Reply# 65   6/10/2012 at 23:21 (4,336 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 602569 , Reply# 66   6/11/2012 at 02:40 (4,336 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 602679 , Reply# 67   6/11/2012 at 14:16 (4,335 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 602694 , Reply# 68   6/11/2012 at 14:54 (4,335 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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