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Post# 605783   6/23/2012 at 11:48 (4,295 days old) by electron1100 (England)        

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Its only 35 years old i think i should pen a letter of complaint to Hoover things just dont last these days :-)

Thanks to Paul (matchbox) i have a Hoover A3060 which over the fullness of time i have been servicing, and it works beautifully except on one thing, whilst on the 1100 spin there is an almighty clatter coming from the machine.

Initially i thought that will be heater element retaining bracket no longer attached to the tub allowing the heating element to flap about, an inspection showed this not to be that case.

However i did notice a load of beige colour stuff all around the concrete weight mounts, so after stripping out the tub i could get a closer look, and in deed the mounting plates that are spot welded to the tub that support the weight appear to have come away and the previous owner has had a go at using some sort epoxy resin to fix them in place

So i got some stainless steel nuts/washers and bolts and drilled holes and have clamped the plates on so hopefully this will stop the weight flapping around on a spin.

Here are pictures of the job starting with mouthing plates in as they were.





Post# 605784 , Reply# 1   6/23/2012 at 11:49 (4,295 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
plates

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the other plate

Post# 605786 , Reply# 2   6/23/2012 at 11:52 (4,295 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Rear

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after i had removed the rear plate and bits, the tub is in good condition just a few areas to clean and de-rust, a few hard water deposits not a problem though, to the right of drain hole is the heater retaining bracket

Post# 605787 , Reply# 3   6/23/2012 at 11:54 (4,295 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
inside

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this machine is in very good order for its age there is little rust on it any where, i shall clean it up before i re-assemble it

Post# 605788 , Reply# 4   6/23/2012 at 11:56 (4,295 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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I had a very similar problem with my Hotpoint 18680 and resolved the problem in a similar way.
Hats off Gary that must have been a huge afternoons work stripping it right down, very rewarding though isn’t it.


Post# 605789 , Reply# 5   6/23/2012 at 11:57 (4,295 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Door Lock

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Hmm I have always disliked electrical door interlocks that make you wait, so on a previous mission with this machine i removed the wiring for it now there is only a mechanical interlock
Also notice the vertical cabinet bracing struts around the door, these were not fitted to later machines


Post# 605790 , Reply# 6   6/23/2012 at 12:00 (4,295 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
plates

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took some time to get the glue he had used off, but fortunatley he had not roughed up the surface of the enamalled tub so large pieces would just come away

I then marked up two points for the holes and the same for the other mounting plate


Post# 605792 , Reply# 7   6/23/2012 at 12:02 (4,295 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Bloo Goo

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I filled the holes and surrounding area with Blue Silicon high temperature instant gaskett

Post# 605793 , Reply# 8   6/23/2012 at 12:04 (4,295 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
The Nuts and Bolts Of IT

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I then inserted the washers bolts and nuts, giving the gaskett silicon 5 minutes to start to set and then tightened them all down.

Post# 605794 , Reply# 9   6/23/2012 at 12:06 (4,295 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Inside Job

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I will test the machine next week for water leaks etc and get back to you

Bolts in place in the tub


Post# 605796 , Reply# 10   6/23/2012 at 12:13 (4,295 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Repair like that will last another 35 years no problem.

But one must ask, how many mugs of coffee where consumed and how many pervanities uttered? Did the fine adjustment tool get used?


Post# 605800 , Reply# 11   6/23/2012 at 12:44 (4,295 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Big Jobs

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Hello Lee

as you know we are alike in as much as we both get stuck in there regardless of life or limb :-)

Though i have to pace myself now so on wednesday just gone i was triple loading around the garage and did some of the basic stripping work then, so today i took no washing as i wanted to conserve my energy to lift out the tub and work on it, hmmmm me cuss and swear whilst working too right buddy, i am always fair with items that dont want to budge, i give them fair warning and a good chatting to before the Universal Adjuster comes out!

Very little tea today and the one mug of coffee i made became suicidal and through itself over the edge of my 3062 keymatic, so i just threw a dust sheet over the mess so as not to be distracted from the task in hand i did also smoke a few fags it helps with the tension

But for all that these old machines make such sense with their sturdy construction and clever design everything servicable or repairable as we all know :-)


Post# 605909 , Reply# 12   6/24/2012 at 04:55 (4,295 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Looking forward to the rebuild and hopefully lots more photos.

Regardless of life or limb.
Yes, I’m working on another constellation and while drilling out the rivets on the lid a particular rivet holding the Hoover badge decided to spin so I put a bit of weight behind the drill, well the bit broke and my full weight lunged forward and the snapped jagged end of the bit sunk into my finger at the bed of my nail, the lid went flying across the garage and the air turned very black, hell did it bleed, blood all over the place, I had to tape the remainder of my nail on to stop it catching in every dam thing I touched, eight weeks later the bad part with a hole in has finally grown out.

Must return back to the constellation I haven’t done anything to it since, it will get a friendly warning before work recommence.


Post# 605912 , Reply# 13   6/24/2012 at 05:35 (4,295 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Ouch

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Thats it mate! LOL these nasty things that would have a go back will get there come uppence, mind it does seem fitting that the constellation lid "Flew" across the room ;-)

You have to larf at these events the number of times i have smacked several bails of shite out of my loft roof supports with a hammer coz they get in the way of my head...........

You have done a lovely jobs on your restorations so i am sure "broken nail" will be worth it for the end result

Gary


Post# 605932 , Reply# 14   6/24/2012 at 08:45 (4,295 days old) by henrypeter21 ()        
OUCH - MY FINGER TIP!

These things happen when repairing white goods! I cut my neighbours finger tip off when pulling the drum out of my zanussi, My poor neighbour sliced his finger tip on the pulley wheel at the back. These Cause alot of issues when changing the bearings on a machine where its tub does not have a front plate like my old Hotpoint WM64 did.

Good job on the Hoover washer, when will videos be up?


Post# 605941 , Reply# 15   6/24/2012 at 09:42 (4,295 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Tools

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well you can have the best tools but some machines are just belligerent and full of sharp edges that said this is a favoutite tool ;-)


No idea when ill get round to vids of this one it will take me a while i think to get it back together.

We will see i might have a an energy rush and bish bosh its dun! :-)



Post# 608010 , Reply# 16   7/3/2012 at 16:19 (4,285 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

When me and my dad put your machine in my dads car, I did see the 'stuff' on the bottom of the tub and thought 'oh!'.

Still - with your expertese it will get sorted and, barring the tub repair, your machine turned out to be in such superb condition I am sure it negates any problems it throws at you.

Below are some piccies of your machine on collection day...


Post# 608012 , Reply# 17   7/3/2012 at 16:19 (4,285 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

the underneath view, revealing a really clean machine...

Post# 608014 , Reply# 18   7/3/2012 at 16:20 (4,285 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

September 1978 - one of the oldest A3060's...

Post# 608016 , Reply# 19   7/3/2012 at 16:21 (4,285 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

In the back of my dad's Mondeo...

Post# 608017 , Reply# 20   7/3/2012 at 16:22 (4,285 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

I had never seen the strengthening bars before...

Post# 608018 , Reply# 21   7/3/2012 at 16:23 (4,285 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Pristine even on the back too...

Post# 608020 , Reply# 22   7/3/2012 at 16:24 (4,285 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Will post a couple more pictures of it soon, Gary.

Cheers
Paul



Post# 608039 , Reply# 23   7/3/2012 at 17:27 (4,285 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        

Ah the machine I grew up with! oh the memories, nice to see there still around. I remember being fascinated sitting there watching it through the cycles, it was moved into what was the downstairs loo to make way for our first dishwasher (a Philips with a brown plastic interior (AAD004 or something?)) Then one day to my horror (and my mum's fury) my dad decided to rent it out to a customer and replace with a philips electra. I loved the spin-a-rinse action.

However, mum hated it as she could not do a 2nd spin (not sure why she wanted to do that all the time, but that habit stopped with the IZ) this was when I worked out to get the spin separately from a Philips was to have the machine on, and set to spin. Spin the drum by hand and close the door quickly. Wasn't long after this discovery that dad was dragged to curry's and purchased an A8504 and the philisp got rented out, it also saw the Philips D153 move hose to my aunt's, which as far as I know is still going strong.



Post# 608145 , Reply# 24   7/4/2012 at 05:54 (4,285 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
memories

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Paul


I remember those pictures well, and then picking it up from Mats :-)

Andy
nice to know some one else has experienced these machines :-)

Well as i said i have been going through it slowly giving it all a service, i went to the garage yesterday and did a bit more work on it, cut my hand again and got blood allover the washing i did whilst i was there (i bleed a lot due to medication im on)

anyway

First job was to de-rust the back of the tub and a few bits inside of the tub so gave a rub down with emery and cleaned it with white spirit


Post# 608146 , Reply# 25   7/4/2012 at 05:55 (4,285 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Amerite!

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I then painted the parts with trusty old Hammerite, you can use this straight onto rust if you want

Post# 608147 , Reply# 26   7/4/2012 at 05:56 (4,285 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
tiddly bits

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Heater bracket and around the very front

Post# 608149 , Reply# 27   7/4/2012 at 05:59 (4,285 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Crusty Bits

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Then to remove the crust from the rear tub plate. easily done with a spark splug wire brush and it wasnt that bad

Post# 608150 , Reply# 28   7/4/2012 at 06:01 (4,285 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Crusty Bits

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few more bits to come off, whilst i was making all this mess and dust my trusty old hoover Portapower was doing a sterling job of sucking all the crap up

Post# 608152 , Reply# 29   7/4/2012 at 06:05 (4,285 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Rubber

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Then fianlly once it was all cleaned up a layer of silicon sealant all round a bit of fiddling and the new tub seal went on.........

Thats it so far, when i go again i will start to re-assemble the machine.....

Sorry about some of pix being blurred, it must be the excitement of all it making me shake and then my eyes go all blurred and and and....................


Post# 608241 , Reply# 30   7/4/2012 at 13:20 (4,284 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Sterling work, but stop sniffing that Hammerite may make the photos better.


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