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Post# 607032   6/29/2012 at 08:50 (4,318 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Okay, I was browsing dishwashersinfo.com and noticed a GE dishwasher having just the same tub as my German(?) Bomann - minus the exposed heater. There are several brands of dishwashers that have this tub. Even a UK Hotpoint featured in a recent thread had is design. Where do these come from?



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Post# 607045 , Reply# 1   6/29/2012 at 09:59 (4,318 days old) by nrones ()        
Chinese manufacturer

Thought it was Midea, but turns out not. I don't know the name, but 100% they're made in China, and now a list: Gorenje, Indesit comp. 45cm, Candy/Hoover 45cm (+ 1 model 60cm), Bomann, GE, Elin, Midea, Zanussi/Electrolux 45cm (at least on Serbian market), Baumatic, Belling, Newworld, and many more small brands.

In the link is a video where you can see their baskets and interior (at some point) ;)

Dex


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Post# 607057 , Reply# 2   6/29/2012 at 11:22 (4,318 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

indesit companies dishwashers say "made in EU" on the ratings plates, so the parts must come in for them from China

Post# 607058 , Reply# 3   6/29/2012 at 11:25 (4,318 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Lovely promotion video, indeed! "The baskets wobble"..."the fold-down shelves feel flimsy". Is that how they try to sell it? HAHA! But yes, these are crappy units. And to make matters worse, our particular models is programmed so that no cycle has an interim rinse. This is what the water looks like for the beginning of the final rinse. Crystal clear results are guaranteed - not. The only solution is to start a new 80 minutes Quick cycle after the main wash is done.

Post# 607063 , Reply# 4   6/29/2012 at 11:56 (4,318 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        

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We have that machine in our employee lounge. Made in China.
It does wash pretty good though. But very smallish.


Post# 607198 , Reply# 5   6/29/2012 at 21:51 (4,317 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

Brastemp, Electrolux, GE, Midea, Speed, Philco, Westpoint, Hotpoint, Ariston, Indesit, Eslabón de Lujo, Fagor, Gafa and a few more brands in Brazil, Paraguay and Argentina.

To be more exact, nearly all dishwashers in my region are exactly the same crap.


Post# 607249 , Reply# 6   6/30/2012 at 10:28 (4,317 days old) by lovestowash (St. Petersburg, FL)        
Fills a niche...

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In remodeling a 60's ranch for resale, our contractor chose this GE model as it is a tad shorter than the norm...

Out of almost 100 models available at BrandsMart, this was the least expensive stainless that would fit in the existing cavity...

Otherwise, the countertops would have to be raised...

From the front, it looks like all the rest...

You don't see the difference until you open it...

 

George

 

 


Post# 607257 , Reply# 7   6/30/2012 at 11:45 (4,317 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

Nrones: I can't second what you write, at least for the brands I'm sure about!

"Chinese manufacturer
Thought it was Midea, but turns out not. I don't know the name, but 100% they're made in China, and now a list: Gorenje, Indesit comp. 45cm, Candy/Hoover 45cm (+ 1 model 60cm), Bomann, GE, Elin, Midea, Zanussi/Electrolux 45cm (at least on Serbian market), Baumatic, Belling, Newworld, and many more small brands."

As you can see I have a dishwasher (Indesit DI623 made in 2006) that has the same interior. It is stamped in Poland in Lodz in a factory opened in 1999.

Once the current line gets "old" by western standards old assembly lines get sold to eastern countries that continue to produce virtually identical clones of old lines of appliances of european manufacturers. (See all those loads of American washer-dryers like the Splendide Combombomatic or Equator and so on, many are based on old Philco/Indesit/Antonio Merloni models not sold here in ten years! They simply relocated production lines.)

(sorry for the dirt but I was loading the dishwasher!)

Differences are the 2000W heating element (now concealed) and the salt cap for the built-in water softener plus the filter assembly is of the self-cleaning kind and the wash arm is bigger and has less holes!


Post# 607258 , Reply# 8   6/30/2012 at 11:48 (4,317 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

Oh, I had forgotten!
A lot of Gorenje dishwasher come out of the SMEG Bonferraro factory here in Emilia Romagna
While most of the dishwashers from Baumatic are actually rebadged Antonio Merloni, also made in Italy (exception a few models made by Vestel of Turkey I've been told.)


Post# 607259 , Reply# 9   6/30/2012 at 11:50 (4,317 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        
ERRATA!

Bonferraro is NOT in Emilia Romagna :) I meant SMEG is but the actual factory is in the Verona province in Veneto (not so far).

Hey, three messages in a row... I promise I'm stopping :)


Post# 607265 , Reply# 10   6/30/2012 at 13:05 (4,317 days old) by confused ()        

I believe it was my slimline Hotpoint dishwasher that the first post referred to (model number SDW80)

According to the sticker on the side of the door it says it is made in China so it would not surprise me if a lot of the machines coming from China use the same tub but it does the job for now


Post# 607277 , Reply# 11   6/30/2012 at 15:48 (4,317 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
Who makes these

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The inside of my Chinese made Indesit DI450, an excellent performing Dishwasher.

Post# 607290 , Reply# 12   6/30/2012 at 16:36 (4,317 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

I see total commonality with my machine! :)
But on mine it says "made in Italy", of course being one of the biggest groups in the white goods industry I'm more than sure that Indesit Company dishwashers are produced in more than a few plants around the globe!


Post# 607293 , Reply# 13   6/30/2012 at 16:42 (4,317 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        

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That's why i thought i would post a pic of mine for u.

Post# 607294 , Reply# 14   6/30/2012 at 16:46 (4,317 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

ive seen BOL and MOL models say "made in EU" on them

Post# 607303 , Reply# 15   6/30/2012 at 17:29 (4,316 days old) by solsburian (SE Northumberland)        

I think some TOL Indesit/Hotpoint dishwashers are made in China too. Incidentally the Candy and Indesit compact dishwashers are also Chinese origin too.

Post# 607370 , Reply# 16   7/1/2012 at 00:36 (4,316 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

And as I said mine is made in Italy, I guess it's a question we'll never be able to totally put in light! :)

Post# 607410 , Reply# 17   7/1/2012 at 07:16 (4,316 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)        
And don't forget Whirlpool

My sister has a slimline Whirlpool, made in China, and it is the spitting image of the Indesit slimline. Heater is hidden though.

Post# 607413 , Reply# 18   7/1/2012 at 08:34 (4,316 days old) by mrwash ()        
Made in China/Made in EU

I would like to point out, that machines that have the label "Made in China" are completely assembled in China. "Made in EU" means the machines are assembled here in the EU (or USA or wherever you want) BUT the parts and everything that belongs to the machine still comes from China. It also can be that some machine types are pre-assembled in China and just get the "Finish" here in the EU, so that the manufacturer is allowed to put the slogan "Made in EU" on the machine.

Post# 607419 , Reply# 19   7/1/2012 at 09:16 (4,316 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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These machines are sold by GE here in the states and were also sold as Whirlpool so as to offer an ADA (Americans with Disabilites Act) compliant machine. Because of their smaller size (height) they fit under lowered counters. There are many of these installed in new office buildings, etc. that must comply with the ADA regulations.

There is one (GE) in a building that we do that is a source of constant complaints for it's washing ability, capacity and all-around cheap quality construction. The owner mentioned it once and hadn't realized that it was specified by the architect for it's ADA Compliance but then recalled that the GE slide-in range had to be custom fitted in the lower height counters and lower panel parts had to be ordered to make it fit.

Hobbled by extremely hard water, the dishwasher looks like it's 20 years old when you open it, covered in white film and scale. But that's not the machine's fault.

For parts sourcing resources, Alibaba.com is an interesting site to poke around, you'll find many of the parts used in dishwashers all over the globe and and see the company and factory of origin. Nearly all manufacturers source parts from China and other Asian countries. The link is to dishwasher pumps but you can search for anything related to kitchen and laundry appliances and get a feel for how "global" most machines really are.


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Post# 607646 , Reply# 20   7/2/2012 at 12:13 (4,315 days old) by Logixx (Germany)        

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Our unit doesn't say anything about where it's made. Probably "Made on Earth"...


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