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SPEED QUEEN SOLID TUB WASHER UP AND RUNNING!
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Post# 611871   7/23/2012 at 22:16 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        

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haven't done a thread in a while so here goes! got my speed queen washer back together this past march, bought it back in late 2010! just now posting it! been a busy summer!

here it is in the jeep after getting it that day from indianapolis. i still had a soft top on my car back then and remember what a cold day it was!





Post# 611872 , Reply# 1   7/23/2012 at 22:18 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
had to rig a special puller

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out of chain and wood to pull agitator out of tub.

Post# 611873 , Reply# 2   7/23/2012 at 22:19 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
agitator

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is out!

Post# 611874 , Reply# 3   7/23/2012 at 22:20 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
love that solid tub

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of stainless steel!

i remember a cousin had one of these washers back in 1976 and i loved it then too!


Post# 611875 , Reply# 4   7/23/2012 at 22:22 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
the lid switch arm is pretty

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rusted. i coated it with rusty metal primer and simply bypassed it when i put machine back together.

Post# 611876 , Reply# 5   7/23/2012 at 22:26 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
it will eventually rust all

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the way out again i am sure.

this one has a ring of concrete on the top of the inner solid tub.


Post# 611877 , Reply# 6   7/23/2012 at 22:28 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
bottom of washer showing

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pump before i took it off and did anything to machine.

this one has 3 belts.


Post# 611878 , Reply# 7   7/23/2012 at 22:30 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
motor goes directly into

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a fluid clutch and then spin is fed from this clutch via it's own belt.

Post# 611879 , Reply# 8   7/23/2012 at 22:32 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
top belt coming off clutch

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and feeding spin pulley.

bottom 2 belts turn drain pump and transmission for agitation.


Post# 611880 , Reply# 9   7/23/2012 at 22:35 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
pic from back of machine

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showing pump and motor and rusty bottom when i first got it.

a few coats of rusty metal primer did wonders to this area! and all 3 belts were fine and able to be used! at least they are fine now! hopefully if they break i can find more!


Post# 611881 , Reply# 10   7/23/2012 at 22:37 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
good pic

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showing the spin fluid clutch.

Post# 611882 , Reply# 11   7/23/2012 at 22:40 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
close up view

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of drain pump.

this pump is fine and has no leaks although i did have to get a pump gasket for it. luckily i found the gasket at partselect.com. it was one of the few parts they still carried for this washer!


Post# 611883 , Reply# 12   7/23/2012 at 22:41 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
close up of

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motor.

Post# 611885 , Reply# 13   7/23/2012 at 22:43 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
good view from bottom

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up. again before i did anything to it.

Post# 611886 , Reply# 14   7/23/2012 at 22:46 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
pump is

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out.

don't like the look of that output port. pretty chewed! it will eventually erode away to the point where a hose will not fit on.

gave it about 10 coats of primer, inside and out! and i'm only using this washer for fun about once a month.


Post# 611887 , Reply# 15   7/23/2012 at 22:47 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
pretty nasty

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looking!

Post# 611888 , Reply# 16   7/23/2012 at 22:49 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
from the back showing

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outer tub. i painted it with many coasts of primer.

Post# 611889 , Reply# 17   7/23/2012 at 22:50 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
one more of the

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outer tub and that lid switch

Post# 611890 , Reply# 18   7/23/2012 at 22:51 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
control panel

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pic showing left side.

Post# 611891 , Reply# 19   7/23/2012 at 22:52 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
and

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the middle.

Post# 611892 , Reply# 20   7/23/2012 at 22:53 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
right side showing

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that unique timer!

Post# 611893 , Reply# 21   7/23/2012 at 22:54 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
and the complete

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control panel view.

Post# 611894 , Reply# 22   7/23/2012 at 22:56 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
here it is

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after i took timer off.

i did this is late 2010 and when i went to put it back together this year i had no idea what went where! thank God i had the wiring diag!


Post# 611895 , Reply# 23   7/23/2012 at 22:57 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
timer

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out!

Post# 611897 , Reply# 24   7/23/2012 at 23:00 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
this pic shows the

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bleed off tube that runs from the central filling port to a seperate container on the back of washer. this gives a variable metered fill to the solid tub washer.

Post# 611902 , Reply# 25   7/23/2012 at 23:05 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
here is the metered fill

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container after i removed it from washer. water runs into it, filling it up till it activates the variable fill pressure switch on the control panel just like a perforated tub washer uses.

a small tube runs from this control panel switch down to this container.

water enters this container at the top left thru that funnel shaped entrance port.


Post# 611904 , Reply# 26   7/23/2012 at 23:07 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
this pic shows that

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small tube that connects on the control panel to the fill level switch.

Post# 611905 , Reply# 27   7/23/2012 at 23:08 (4,293 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)        

Hey Pete, best of luck with your solid tub SQ.

Sorry I missed you last week when I was at the HD.


Post# 611908 , Reply# 28   7/23/2012 at 23:11 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
when the washer

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drains this solonoid kicks in opening a small drain flapper on the bottom of this container, draining it into the outer tub of the washer.

this flapper valve was clogged with sediment causing it not to seat, hence keeping the metering container from fill up during fills, stopping washer from going in it's wash phase no matter how long it filled!

this was easily cleaned and it now works perfectly!


Post# 611910 , Reply# 29   7/23/2012 at 23:14 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
here it is mounted back on the

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left back side of the washer after i did the cleaning and painting of the machine this spring.

you can see the outer tub has been painted and also note the small drain hose on the bottom that drains this container into the outer tub during drain/spin phases.


Post# 611912 , Reply# 30   7/23/2012 at 23:17 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
another view

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after painting and re-mounting this container.

Post# 611913 , Reply# 31   7/23/2012 at 23:19 (4,293 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
looks like '79

1979 date code on the motor-about the 2nd to last year for solid tubs.


Post# 611916 , Reply# 32   7/23/2012 at 23:24 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
pump and belts

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back on.

original drain hose from tub to pump was in great shape too and able to be reused!


Post# 611918 , Reply# 33   7/23/2012 at 23:27 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
pump pic

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showing pump with new gasket installed and bottom half painted many coats with rusty metal primer (i love that stuff)!

Post# 611920 , Reply# 34   7/23/2012 at 23:31 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
i also coated this area very

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heavily with primer, especially where drain hose connects on.

Post# 611921 , Reply# 35   7/23/2012 at 23:33 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
didn't want this drain

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port to rust out or that would a real pain to fix!

Post# 611922 , Reply# 36   7/23/2012 at 23:34 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
dug out the schematic

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and started putting timer back on.

Post# 611923 , Reply# 37   7/23/2012 at 23:36 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
not a fun

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job!

Post# 611925 , Reply# 38   7/23/2012 at 23:38 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
control panel area

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with front still removed showing it after i cleaned it up some.

Post# 611926 , Reply# 39   7/23/2012 at 23:39 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
and here it all back together

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in march of this year splashing away!

Post# 611928 , Reply# 40   7/23/2012 at 23:41 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
washing it's first load

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of clothes.

Post# 611929 , Reply# 41   7/23/2012 at 23:43 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
and

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rinsing.

Post# 611930 , Reply# 42   7/23/2012 at 23:46 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
and

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starting to spin. it gets up to full spin speed very quickly.

Post# 611934 , Reply# 43   7/23/2012 at 23:52 (4,293 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
and all spun

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out!

it operates fine, a bit noisy but it doesn't leak at least! i'm just glad it works!

i do have videos of it washing and spinning but i have never figured out how you guys post videos on these threads! if anyone cares to tell me how i will try!

all in all i feel this was a successful find! it works, it looks great, and it's a solid tub speed queen that i picked up within a 2 hour drive! and i didn't drop it out of the car like i did that rollermatic 3 years ago!

enjoy the pics!


Post# 611944 , Reply# 44   7/24/2012 at 00:09 (4,293 days old) by badgerdx ()        

Very cool. Forgive me for asking what is probably an obvious question. Canadian Model?


Post# 612015 , Reply# 45   7/24/2012 at 11:57 (4,292 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
i'm pretty sure this washer

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was made in wisconsin or possibly chicago. i thought speed queen was part of mcgraw edison at the time this washer was made. could be wrong here but i know it was made in the states.

Post# 612020 , Reply# 46   7/24/2012 at 12:13 (4,292 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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Great job, Pete!  I love the agitator puller you built!   It's cool to get a look at the inner workings of a machine like this - that drain valve for letting water out of the inner tub is something I had never seen before.   May you have many washes from this machine!


Post# 612023 , Reply# 47   7/24/2012 at 12:22 (4,292 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
The March shot, splashing away in all her glory, is beautifu

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What a makeover. I was spell-bound, Pete, by the water level reservoir. How cool. Looks so big at first, then when in place, hard to tell. How many gallons does it hold? Was gonna guess one, but not sure now. Fascinating system.

 

One commits gluttony every time you publish one of your mega-pic restoration threads with such fabulous, clear close-ups. What a sweet indulgence. Thanks.

 

 


Post# 612030 , Reply# 48   7/24/2012 at 13:02 (4,292 days old) by lotsosudz (Sacramento, CA)        
Post a video please!

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I love to watch a solid tub spin water out, and overflow rinse. These machines were great for extremely clean rinse water after overflowing. Great machine, and great job on it. Enjoy it!
Hugs,
David


Post# 612069 , Reply# 49   7/24/2012 at 16:36 (4,292 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)        

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Yes, Pete. It is best not to disconnect wiring until you're ready to do the job. I make my own diagram too.

Never used rusty metal primer. Looks pretty good. I've used JB Weld after sanding, but do you think RMP would be better to use and then put Weld over it? JB Weld will kind of build up deteriorated surfaces if you work with it. I've used it once with tin foil or lite weight tin in alternating layers to keep the tin separated from the original piece to keep dissimilar metals apart. Sometimes this trick can be used to restore some areas, depending where it is. I know there's also POR 15, but it's expensive and once it's opened it needs to be used. What do you think? Others have thoughts?


Post# 612123 , Reply# 50   7/24/2012 at 20:43 (4,292 days old) by Blackstone (Springfield, Massachusetts)        
Been There, Done That….

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… with the agitator puller set-up. Once the corrosion sets into that drive block, the agitator gets mighty stuck. With no sure way to break the corrosion, often you just drill and chisel the agitator, and hope it survives.

I notice that you did not remove the screws holding the SS tub to the transmission. Another corrosion point. Good idea to see if you can loosen those bolts, without breaking them.


Post# 612138 , Reply# 51   7/24/2012 at 22:43 (4,292 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
thank you all

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for the comments! i don't work on more than one or two appliances a year anymore, when i first joined on here in 2008 i was a maniac! chasing down every kitchenaid and frigidaire rollermatic i could find! luckily i got that out of my system! now it's fun to work on one every six months or so!

blackstone, thanks for the tip on those bolts. i will check into it.

beekeeknee, i have been using rustoleum rusty metal primer on all my dishwashers and the 3 rollermatics i have restored, and any other washer! i just automatically coat the outer tub with it and the underside of all my dishwasher restorations. i usually give em 3 coats plus a couple coats of rustoleum paint.

the 3 rollermatics i finished had outer tubs with some rusty areas inside so i coated the insides of those outer tubs with about 5 coats of that primer. i did the same with my 1-18 then painted the entire outer tub bright red and green! i have never used jb weld (yet). i just figure if it's metal and can rust it gets a coat of primer! i have heard of por-15 and it was suggested that i use it on my one rollermatic that had a really badly rusted outer tub. but i did not.

we also sell at work (home depot) a can of plastic rubber coating you spray on, supposedly water proof for use in gutter seams. when i dig into my next rollermatic that's patently waiting for me in my appliance room i thought i would try coating the inside of the outer tub with it. especially on the bottom and up where the transmission bolts on to the tub. probably tackle it this winter.

i also find that the bottom of kitchenaid dishwasher tubs tend to rust in the older models so i always use the primer on the outside of them.

as for which is better, i would think jb weld would be could to repair holes, cracks and build up an area where RMP would be best suited as a general coating to prevent rust on any metal area exposed to moisture.

lotsosudz, i would love to post a video here but have no idea how to upload it to this thread? i can do pics, but never learned how to do the videos.

mickeyd, think that bladder holds about a gallon, it's about 16" tall and not very thick, 3,4 inches maybe, it is curved to wrap around corner of outer tub. it is a unique system, slowly filling up just as the wash tub does and triggering the variable level fill switch mounted on the control panel.

paul, thanks as always, i have had good luck making pullers out of wood and bolts and chain. simple to construct, cheap to make, take em apart when your done!




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