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Servis supertwin 108, spin bearing change.
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Post# 613206   7/29/2012 at 15:23 (4,259 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        

Hi, just thought as this is the first time ive worked on the spin dryer on a servis supertwin, it would be worth recording the operation for future reference, and to share with anyone else who may need to do the same repair.

Of course typically for me the machine is apart before I think of getting the camera.





Post# 613207 , Reply# 1   7/29/2012 at 15:24 (4,259 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
Spin dryer assembly

showing the motor and pulley

Post# 613208 , Reply# 2   7/29/2012 at 15:27 (4,259 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
first thing

Is to drift out the cotta pin sercuring the pulley to the spin drum shaft.

Typical, the photo I took is after I'd removed it.


Post# 613210 , Reply# 3   7/29/2012 at 15:29 (4,259 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
Pulley

and brake assembly removed

Post# 613211 , Reply# 4   7/29/2012 at 15:30 (4,259 days old) by organboy1974 ()        
Thanks.....

.....Mathew for the pics. Let me know how you get on as mine is now getting to the point where the grinding is unbearable although it gets better by the end of the wash. This, of course, is not helped by the machine being used less and less as more machines turn up here (miraculously) and there's no more laundry than there was before.

Any tips would be good for when I get around to doing mine, although I've got to find the bearing first.

Aled


Post# 613212 , Reply# 5   7/29/2012 at 15:31 (4,259 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
back over

to the drum end, you can start to see the corrosion I was about to face.

Post# 613213 , Reply# 6   7/29/2012 at 15:32 (4,259 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
open

view of the spinner

Post# 613214 , Reply# 7   7/29/2012 at 15:33 (4,259 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
spin drum

with shaft and old bearing housing

Post# 613215 , Reply# 8   7/29/2012 at 15:35 (4,259 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
inside the

outer drum.

Post# 613216 , Reply# 9   7/29/2012 at 15:36 (4,259 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
and

another

Post# 613217 , Reply# 10   7/29/2012 at 15:37 (4,259 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
Replacement

bearing and shaft assembly, a lucky find some years ago.

Post# 613218 , Reply# 11   7/29/2012 at 15:39 (4,259 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
Attached

to the spin drum

Post# 613220 , Reply# 12   7/29/2012 at 15:44 (4,259 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
Back to the outer container

all rust treated and sprayed with an aerosol galvanising spray. Im not sure what the best product would be here, as I knew that you need a special primer to paint over galvaised surfaces and of course im impacent, so I can say this will be a once and for all rust proofer.

Note how you can see the pump impellor through the drain hole.


Post# 613221 , Reply# 13   7/29/2012 at 15:46 (4,259 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
assembly

just the reverse. the rubber seals go in first

Post# 613222 , Reply# 14   7/29/2012 at 15:49 (4,259 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
the bearing housing

complete with spin drum goes through the rubber mounts, the brake mounting plate and then the large nut goes on to secure the whole thing, and the metal leaf get bent up to stop the nut working loose.

Post# 613223 , Reply# 15   7/29/2012 at 15:52 (4,259 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
pulley

and brake reattached, you can now see the cotta pin in the large pulley mounting block. Also put the belts back on.

Post# 613224 , Reply# 16   7/29/2012 at 15:53 (4,259 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
back up

the right way and the newly rust treated cover in place.

Post# 613228 , Reply# 17   7/29/2012 at 15:57 (4,259 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
Back to join

the washtub, i found it easier to attach the rubber gaskets onto the top deck, and then put the spinner in positon and clamp it onto the outer container.

Post# 613229 , Reply# 18   7/29/2012 at 15:59 (4,259 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
wrap round

body shell.

Post# 613230 , Reply# 19   7/29/2012 at 16:01 (4,259 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
first wash

the spinner purrs now, you can hear the water spin out into the outer container.

Post# 613234 , Reply# 20   7/29/2012 at 16:11 (4,259 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
Well thats

The spinner bearings done, but there are a few other minor issues such as the mains neon and the wash tub drain fitting leaks, but you know me I was just to eager to get washing. This is the first time I've used a servis supertwin by myself for a large serious wash, and i really enjoyed myself, good results, I did notice the larger spinner drum and that seemed to help with the rinsing.

Just need to tidy up the tools now,

Don't you just hate it when you have the machine all back together only to find you've left out a vital component!


Post# 613235 , Reply# 21   7/29/2012 at 16:18 (4,259 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
well

I suppose the designers at servis thought it was vital lol

Sorry Mike I know, I've let myself down, I've let servis down and I've let my Aw frends down.

But on the plus side I could be pegging out with 3mins still on the wash tub clock.

have a good week

Mathew


Post# 613243 , Reply# 22   7/29/2012 at 16:56 (4,259 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
Servis Supertwin

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Thank you so much for sharing these Truly Wonderful step by step detailed pictures. What i would give to have one of these pure class Servis Twintubs.

Post# 613361 , Reply# 23   7/30/2012 at 01:27 (4,259 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Servis Weekend

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Hello Mat
Looks like you had a good weekend:-) and a worthwhile one aswell, these are such lovely machines

And of course you will have scored extra brownie points with a certain scouser for getting a Servis sorted

I had a bit of a Servis moment this weekend aswell, looking in our local 2nd hand shop and saw this (not a bargain but he says he is open to offers)

Gary
Ps one day i shall get back to the 3060 and finish that (if it doesnt finish me off first)


Post# 613372 , Reply# 24   7/30/2012 at 03:19 (4,259 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Supertwin

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Matt

Thanks for the pictures and details - there is a small leak in the spinner of my Supertwin as well but I think it may be in the outer casing.

I really enjoy washing in the Supertwin, quiet and smooth it just gets on with the job without drama or tangling. I thought the inner lid would be a real pain but in practice I find it does not bother me that much :)

Gary, that was the first machine my mother had - it will be hanging around a long while at that price.

Al


Post# 613451 , Reply# 25   7/30/2012 at 12:29 (4,258 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
for that price

I would at least expect a power wringer lol.

Hi Al, as you say it just quietly washes away, pleased your enjoying yours.

I actually have only used one with the two lids at Richards, and due to a rather generous doseing of detergent we were rinsing 5 or 6 times, so I thought whilst I had the chance to remove the lid without damage I would. I also left the brake quite loose, so that you can get the lid open and still see the drum slowing down, whilst adjusting the rinse flow.

The other thing I found and this is more operator error than critism. was the wash tub lid hinging backwards rather than to the side or coming off, ment I wasn't looking where the spin drain hose was and twice ended up with the first rinse running back into the wash tub, this wouldnt have happend if Id washed with the lid closed though, so my own fault.

But yes a lovely machine and no back ache either, but then again I didnt get the floor washed into the bargain, as with the hoovers.

Mathew


Post# 613656 , Reply# 26   7/31/2012 at 07:09 (4,258 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Servis Supertwin

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Great restore Mathew, always good to see pics for the future reference, good job of the rust coating, should last now, as long as it keeps being used as the daily driver and retire those hard ridden Ooovass...

I`ll let you off with inner lid, was always a faff, but as Al says you get used to it!!, This was the last supertwin with the three controls and the indicator lights, the next model 110 going to electric pumps!!


Post# 614401 , Reply# 27   8/3/2012 at 09:50 (4,254 days old) by supertwin111 ()        

Hi, does your servis supertwin 108 have a lint filter?, all mine has is a round drain with holes in it under the agitator. Im guessing thats it?

john



Post# 614425 , Reply# 28   8/3/2012 at 11:08 (4,254 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Lint filter

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John

Actually no, I believe that is just a pump guard and should not be removeable. I hate that guard with a passion as it created a rust hole in mine, which thankfully I have been able to repair and enjoy this wonderful machine.

The lint filter is in the upper, removeable part of the agitator, the bit just below the securing nut which sits on top of the agitator. I believe it is rather like the lint fiter in the older Maytag top loaders.

Maybe my clothes dont have much lint (they are mostly washed, beautifully clean, in a front loader) but the filter in mine did not seem to trap much lint.

Al


Post# 614780 , Reply# 29   8/5/2012 at 02:32 (4,253 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Servis Supertwin Two-Stage Agitator

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This type of agitator is called a "Two-Stage" is has a mini agi which sits on top of the main agi, this gives a more vigerous wash action, underneath the top "Snap-On Agi" sits a link filter which collects lint from the wash water as it passes through it!!

Post# 614882 , Reply# 30   8/5/2012 at 12:30 (4,252 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
Ah, thanks mike

now Ive seen the filter, no this 108 doesnt have one. But you can see the water surge through where it would be, so maybe not as effective as the filter flow principle, but it would be a second best.

mathew


Post# 615896 , Reply# 31   8/9/2012 at 19:25 (4,248 days old) by supertwin111 ()        
cheers mike

Ah I see, no unfortunately my 111 doesnt have the white plastic lint filter either but has the identical two part agitator as mike has shown in the picture.
Were they not all equipped with them then?



Post# 831487 , Reply# 32   7/9/2015 at 06:02 (3,185 days old) by Fov ()        
Lint trap..

No they didn't all come with the white plastic lint trap, they stopped producing them after i believe the 108 model but i could be wrong on the model number but definitely not wrong on the discontinuation of the making of them, theyre like gold dust now so if you have one keep hold of it.. I scoured every dump site i could to find one which i eventually did, it now sits in pride of place in my Supertwin 110 which unfortunately has the spinner bearings problem, can anyone please PLEASE give me the part number for the Servis Supertwin 110 range for the spinner bearings so i can have some made for it.. its next to useless without a new set and sounds like a jet engine ready for take off, Very hollow and very loud with an echo just to enrich the neighbourhood in which i live... but i need the model number on the bearing set to have them made.. I'll have them fitted by experts as i'm no repairman and won't even attempt to dismantle it to find the wanted number.. Once its up and running i'll add a picture to show it off, apart from the bearing problem its in as new condition.. PLEASE HELP.. Thanks for all and any help you can give .. Paul

Post# 831491 , Reply# 33   7/9/2015 at 06:17 (3,185 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Bearings

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Paul

Welcome to AW.

I am sure that it will not be long before Mike or Matthew can advise on the correct bearings, they may even have some in their parts stashes. As you can see I am not far from you (see the thread "A New Vintage Washroom) and indeed Paul & Rob are also close (Ripley)so its possible that if Matthew is visiting either of us you could bring your machine over for a repair - the spin can on my 100 is still leaking and I hope Mathew can do a masterclass so I can learn how carry out the repairs myself

Al


Post# 831862 , Reply# 34   7/11/2015 at 13:25 (3,182 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
Paul

Well as you can see it's quite a job, complete dismantle to get to the bearings.

Also you can see that I had the bearing and shaft replacement complete unit. the actual bearings are standard bearings, up to the 108 they were imperial, the 110 onwards metric. They use 2 6201ZZ, I can send you two of these or you can get them of ebay or an online bearing supplier. The real problem is getting the carbon face seal, they are quite similar to the ones used on the hoover spin dryers, but again those aren't easy to find. you may find when the unit is dismantled the seal could have threads or lint round it or could be cleaned up and work again. So I don't know if you have any local repair shops who may have any old parts lurking on long forgotten shelves, may be worth a few phone calls.

Hope you can get this repair done and that the photos of my thread will be of help.

Mathew



Post# 831879 , Reply# 35   7/11/2015 at 16:20 (3,182 days old) by Fov ()        
Mathew

I hope ive spelt your name right.. when you say they are similar to the ones used by hoover, does this mean they'll do the job or will it be another hunt? the company im using to carry out the repair is Burton domestics.. theyve been going for years and have a good reputation, i'm just hoping they will have the necessary equipment to finish the job off once its been started..thanks for all your help and the model numbers of the wanted bearings.. you'v been great.. Cheers and all the best - Paul xXx


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