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Post# 614823   8/5/2012 at 06:23 (3,774 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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So last month I bought my first Filter-Flo ever off of ebay. When it got here it was buyers remorse at it's best. None of what the seller said was true about it working and "tested", "A-1" condition.
Anyway, thanks to assistance from club members and needed parts sent to me courtesy of Yogitunes, I was able to finally get it going and posted some pics in an older thread. It was working and clean, but the cabinet is dented in the front.
then I came across this GE at a thrift store in Leesburg and got to thinking of doing a body swap and blend the two machines together. So I just got back with it this week and I have some pics to share.
This was one of two washers I went on my appliance picking trip to get.





Post# 614824 , Reply# 1   8/5/2012 at 06:26 (3,774 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 614825 , Reply# 2   8/5/2012 at 06:32 (3,774 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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When I got there the manager/owner dropped the price $50 after I told him I had driven in from out of town to get it.
If your ever in Leesburg, Florida, stop by 441 Thrift, very nice people.
Here's a picture of it unloaded and awaiting testing and detailing.


Post# 614828 , Reply# 3   8/5/2012 at 06:34 (3,774 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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...and a few minutes after I got it home I had the lid off seeing if the washers were similar internally.

Post# 614829 , Reply# 4   8/5/2012 at 06:35 (3,774 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 614830 , Reply# 5   8/5/2012 at 06:37 (3,774 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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...Filter-Flo pan from my other washer fits!

Post# 614832 , Reply# 6   8/5/2012 at 06:44 (3,774 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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This washer has the back panel installed where the SpotScrubber did not. So I couldn't tell what other changes GE made in this last of the FLo's.
I will remove the back panel for further doner comparability between the two. It's a strong runner with a VERY aggressive agitation. Even though it's a BOL, It's a shame to tear it apart.


Post# 614917 , Reply# 7   8/5/2012 at 15:14 (3,774 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 614995 , Reply# 13   8/5/2012 at 19:07 (3,774 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Can someone please tell me the "born on date"?

Post# 614999 , Reply# 14   8/5/2012 at 19:42 (3,774 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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November 1994

Post# 615000 , Reply# 15   8/5/2012 at 19:43 (3,774 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 615004 , Reply# 16   8/5/2012 at 19:48 (3,774 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I noticed the back panel is just simple pressed cardboard and I've only seen these in 2 conditions, destroyed and water logged. They are also 'Hella' expensive! So I decided to at least coat it with something to prolong the day it needs replaced or I take it off completely.
The only real reason to keep the cover on is for noise reduction and to keep the critters of the 4 and 8 legged variety out of the internals.


Post# 615007 , Reply# 17   8/5/2012 at 19:50 (3,774 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Compare it to the "older" Filter-Flo.


Post# 615009 , Reply# 18   8/5/2012 at 19:59 (3,774 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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...I test fitted the Filter-Flo pan from the SpotScrubber and it fits on the agitator of the newer washer. I understand that the SpotScrubber filter pan is a little larger in diameter, but it fit just the same. I now "need" a standard Filter-Flo pan since it didn't come with one.
Here is an example of the type of cycle lights I wanted to custom add to the washer to indicate water temps and "SpotScrubber" activity.
They are from a Commercial Speed Queen.


Post# 615048 , Reply# 19   8/6/2012 at 01:23 (3,773 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 615051 , Reply# 20   8/6/2012 at 02:31 (3,773 days old) by doug (West Virgina)        
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She still looks new ;) Love the ge filter flos and hotpoint rim flos!

Post# 615465 , Reply# 21   8/7/2012 at 19:48 (3,772 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I had this 90% full can of spray paint laying around for over 10 years and decided it was finally the day to use it.
I remember that when I had used it prior, the spray valve was defective, causing the paint to build up at the tip and then get spit in a goober-like fashion, ruining any smooth finish you were trying to create. So in this case I used that "defect" to a creative advantage. After all, I was just painting a piece of cardboard.
Here is the panel painted and re installed.


Post# 615468 , Reply# 22   8/7/2012 at 19:53 (3,772 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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....at closer look. The paint left a wet "droplet" effect.

Post# 615469 , Reply# 23   8/7/2012 at 19:56 (3,772 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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...I guess I'm turning my washers into "object d'art".

Post# 615471 , Reply# 24   8/7/2012 at 20:00 (3,772 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I also performed the lid switch mod, allowing me to take the following pictures using LED lighting.

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Post# 615476 , Reply# 28   8/7/2012 at 20:14 (3,772 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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** No TEXTILES were harmed during filming **

Post# 615478 , Reply# 29   8/7/2012 at 20:16 (3,772 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 615480 , Reply# 30   8/7/2012 at 20:29 (3,772 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Love the paint job, and the effects of the speckle.......thats unique....something to consider, not to mention a sort of protectant for the fiberboard from water and oil............

like the special effects of the LED lighting as well....you learn much Grasshopper!


Post# 615487 , Reply# 31   8/7/2012 at 21:15 (3,772 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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**Question** Why did GE use so many colors of plastic? I wish I had all the plastic in that SEAFOAM green (bleach dispenser, clothes retaining ring, fabric softener dispenser, Etc).
The SpotScrubber has beige, white and seafoam plastic pieces! Look like a pride parade in there.!!


Post# 615490 , Reply# 32   8/7/2012 at 21:22 (3,772 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Hmmm, now what do we have here? My mind is working overtime.

Post# 615491 , Reply# 33   8/7/2012 at 21:24 (3,772 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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..what if you were able to modify this to fit the Filter-Flo?

Post# 615492 , Reply# 34   8/7/2012 at 21:31 (3,772 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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..it might be possible to then mount this stainless GE tub?

Post# 615494 , Reply# 35   8/7/2012 at 21:43 (3,772 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Post# 615524 , Reply# 36   8/8/2012 at 01:30 (3,771 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
It's interesting...

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that in this last incarnation the control panel doesn't say "Filter-Flo" anywhere.

Very beautiful machine and you did good leaving it intact. Great job on the painting of the rear panel too. I like your idea of preservation.

Enjoy!

Patrick


Post# 615534 , Reply# 37   8/8/2012 at 03:30 (3,771 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Lovely machine and great to see the insides and all explained, the hoses are in the same position as our Hotpoint models, and very similar parts as well as the cardboard back panel, the spooky thing is the paint you used on the rear panel is the same colourway as the official UK Hotpoint Filter-Flow 1970`s models!!

Post# 615712 , Reply# 38   8/8/2012 at 20:43 (3,771 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)        

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I love that picture Mike. The washer, the floor and the blue granite countertop. Beautiful!

Post# 615749 , Reply# 39   8/9/2012 at 02:06 (3,770 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I found this picture on the web and thought I'd share.

Post# 615839 , Reply# 40   8/9/2012 at 12:49 (3,770 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
The modification could be fun!

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You would be better off to modify the existing wash tub to fit on the old transmission hub, because among other things the old hub also holds down the oil seal.

Post# 615843 , Reply# 41   8/9/2012 at 13:13 (3,770 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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I do not think the modification will be a feasible job.....
Here is mine


Post# 615844 , Reply# 42   8/9/2012 at 13:19 (3,770 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Here is a link I used when I had issues with oil leak and worn oil seal, this link is of a canadian beaumark washer which internal is the exact thing of a Filter-flo as it was made by them.....
You can easlily understand once basket is removed that you cannot easily fit the stainless basket in those 3 shaft things that hold it with the 3 bolts.....
Why change it then?


CLICK HERE TO GO TO kenmoreguy89's LINK




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Post# 616296 , Reply# 43   8/11/2012 at 10:47 (3,768 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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kenmoreguy89, Nice GE there! I would love those chrome end caps on your console..!

Post# 616392 , Reply# 44   8/11/2012 at 17:44 (3,768 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        
Thanks! I love it too!

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Well there was guy here time ago who had a filter flo like mine and was about sending it to the scrapper, he was saving parts for the members here, I think now that washer will be already an iron block though......


Post# 616397 , Reply# 45   8/11/2012 at 17:58 (3,768 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        
Here is the link of the discussion I was talking about....

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You may try to ask if he still have it.....very unlikely though....
Hey no wait! He saved the console!


CLICK HERE TO GO TO kenmoreguy89's LINK


Post# 616404 , Reply# 46   8/11/2012 at 18:26 (3,768 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Well, the speeds (guessing that your one is a 1 speed cluch) and all other functions except for the auto-extra rinse will not work in your model, but if you would like to have a new chromed and black console you may change it, I think you could do that, is all about wiring.....
Not sure if you will have the need to adapt or change anything else then.....


Post# 616414 , Reply# 47   8/11/2012 at 19:07 (3,768 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Alex

if its just the chrome ends you want changed, that only takes a few minutes.....

you can change over the whole panel, but for now, you won't have two speeds until you install a two speed clutch, and the activation solenoid......easily done

and of course, the water level may have to be adjusted, since the new panel comes from an ExLarge machine, and yours is a standard capacity, but again, easily done...

worth a shot!


Post# 616744 , Reply# 48   8/13/2012 at 07:19 (3,766 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Actually, I want the whole console changed out if it's not gonna blow my whole budget. I wrote to that guy about the console you mentioned kenmoreguy, but have not heard back. I did however find this kit for 2-speed clutch conversion with new motor, relay and wiring harness. It's $190. Sooooo just gonna remain eye candy for now.


Post# 616745 , Reply# 49   8/13/2012 at 07:23 (3,766 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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...and a possible doner console with timer. Hmmmm. I'll let you know.


Post# 616746 , Reply# 50   8/13/2012 at 07:23 (3,766 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 616748 , Reply# 51   8/13/2012 at 07:32 (3,766 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Yes, I have a once speed clutch. And as Yogi's keen eye pointed out to me, this machine is of the standard capacity and would involve a more significant parts changeover from the original XL capacity SpotScrubber.
It is all cherry inside and out and would be a shame to tear it apart. But if I did keep it the panel would have to go to make it more visually appealing to me.


Post# 616749 , Reply# 52   8/13/2012 at 07:35 (3,766 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        

Back when i worked for GE around 1980 the appliances had a shot of green spray paint on the back.  Someone told me they called that the "green dot of dependability".  I don't see it on these newer machines.

 

Ken D.


Post# 616754 , Reply# 53   8/13/2012 at 07:56 (3,766 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I may be wrong....but that 2 speed conversion that your showing Alex is not for a traditional GE filterflo......hate to see you spend money for something thats not gonna fit/work......

use your SpotScrubber as a comparison of what the 2 speed clutch and solenoid should look like....


Post# 616762 , Reply# 54   8/13/2012 at 09:35 (3,766 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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What exactly does the Spotscrubber feature do? Is it something to do with the Mini-Basket?

Great machines, everyone! Thanks for posting all the photos.


Post# 616765 , Reply# 55   8/13/2012 at 10:12 (3,766 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Wasn't sure if that kit was compatible, but I figured someone here would tell me :).
Thanks Yogi for sending me that care package. Thanks to you I now have the correct Filter-Flo pan for this washer. It's a smaller diameter than the Spotscrubber mini basket pan, so you can see more of that extreme rollover action!

**Alert, the seller agreed to my "make offer" price of $20 and I am the official new owner of the 8-Cycle control panel in sexy black. So I gain a few extras built into the timer that aren't activated by additional switches. Kinda cool, like the Auto 2nd rinse in the "extra clean" cycle. Can't wait to try it on.

Now, what do I need to convert it over to a 2-speed?



Post# 616766 , Reply# 56   8/13/2012 at 10:21 (3,766 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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...This is an odd hose...New Old Stock ..older version of the water return hose complete with attached flume. At. $53.00 it gonna stay on the shelf right where it is.

Post# 616767 , Reply# 57   8/13/2012 at 10:25 (3,766 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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...Found a used 2-speed clutch and motor for $42.

Post# 616773 , Reply# 58   8/13/2012 at 11:04 (3,766 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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Yes Alex Martin is correct the 2SP motor kit you pictured is for newer GE washer made in the past 10 years.


Post# 616826 , Reply# 59   8/13/2012 at 16:39 (3,766 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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NOW you got it Alex, and not that bad of a price either!

Post# 616869 , Reply# 60   8/13/2012 at 22:19 (3,766 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Sorry that you didn't hear from that guy, I just suggested you as I remebered of it..... but try to wait a little bit, maybe he is on vacation, you know it's August.....
Anyway that square shaped console is nice also! Not sure if the square one can fit on these models...it will? It's very nice as well!
I'm happy you got that 2 Speed motor also and for that good price.
Wished it was so easy to find one for me but 220 volt 50hz to change on my one, as my clutch has gone and now run on 1 speed only, sincerely it is one thing I'm feared to mess with....you know it would be best to find a new motor+clutch+solenoid already mounted, I can't go wrong with it.
Martin once tried to explain me how to do to replace the clutch, but I'm concerned to do a mess with and anyway would need a new solenoid also, as it is not in that good shape , it suffered alot the oil leak from the lower seal 2 years ago.....
Getting in Italy a new motor assembly that runs at 220 volt is such an ardous task as GE dealers now only have parts for the new models...I may try to go with Latin America parts shop where they have 220 volt but who knows what I will get then?
Actually I think the transmission will also fail in the next years, it ran alot and of course can't last forever, it just had a lower shaft seal failure so I'm expecting the next one will be into the tub, not to mention a gear failure, I do not even want to think of it, finger crossed, but that will happend sooner or later and already know that will be a great mess...
Will try to keep her alive till I can....
I'm talking too much... :D
Congrats and good luck!


Post# 616924 , Reply# 61   8/14/2012 at 04:06 (3,765 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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...I don't know what came over me, but I saw this for sale on ebay and I blew my lunch money on it. I guess what caught my eye was the fabric softener dispenser.


Post# 616938 , Reply# 62   8/14/2012 at 07:03 (3,765 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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not all that bad Alex......all this stuff should fit your SpotScrubber as well....the minibasket is just a little smaller....

good find...their getting a little scarce


Post# 616940 , Reply# 63   8/14/2012 at 07:36 (3,765 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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...my mom (bless her), says the garage is turning into an "appliance chop-shop".

Post# 616942 , Reply# 64   8/14/2012 at 07:43 (3,765 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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if you can turn enough machines......you can make a nice little profit.....not a bad thing for a small side business out of a garage

Post# 616953 , Reply# 65   8/14/2012 at 08:14 (3,765 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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...hand wash agitator mod anyone? Of course you'll need both part$.

Post# 616954 , Reply# 66   8/14/2012 at 08:16 (3,765 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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...which will co$t about as much a$ a "new" machine.

Post# 616961 , Reply# 67   8/14/2012 at 08:35 (3,765 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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keep in mind.....this 2 n 1 agitator fits the largest capacity tub, but uses the small capacity tranny....

I have placed this in a standard capacity machine, the lid will close.....and for a one speed machine, it now offers a gentle agitation.....

thinking about it are we?


Post# 616966 , Reply# 68   8/14/2012 at 08:42 (3,765 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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..of cour$e it money is no object..., You can get whole new top.

Post# 616967 , Reply# 69   8/14/2012 at 08:43 (3,765 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Funny thing about that one speed machine.......you ain't washing a small load with the lid open....you WILL get soaked!.....

very few machines can kick ass like that!


Post# 616968 , Reply# 70   8/14/2012 at 08:44 (3,765 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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...soooooo clean, you could almost eat off of it! Go ahead no one is looking!

Post# 616970 , Reply# 71   8/14/2012 at 08:47 (3,765 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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...yes, it is a splasher! You almost have to run it with the filter pan in place to deflect a lot of it back into the tub.

Post# 617008 , Reply# 72   8/14/2012 at 12:16 (3,765 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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.. Seems you might run out of money before you run out of available parts.
Reminds me of Mr. Potato Head, change over a few parts and you have a whole new character.


Post# 617013 , Reply# 73   8/14/2012 at 12:45 (3,765 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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That one is nice Alex.....

think of starting a GE FilterFlo collection?


Post# 617059 , Reply# 74   8/14/2012 at 18:59 (3,765 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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..another GE Motor and 2-speed clutch for sale. This photo showed me a little more detail of what components I'll need.
"GE Washer Motor Assembly (GREEN PLUG) WH12X847 WH49X265 WH49X271"


Post# 617142 , Reply# 75   8/14/2012 at 23:21 (3,765 days old) by d-jones (Western Pennsylvania (Pittsburgh Area))        

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Hey Alex, where did you find that top panel? It looks like it might fit my parents machine that has the corrosion issues.

Post# 617208 , Reply# 76   8/15/2012 at 09:45 (3,764 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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..ebay $100 plus shipping.

Post# 617276 , Reply# 77   8/15/2012 at 16:49 (3,764 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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..So is there only one clutch solenoid? I see motors with and without them. This solenoid cost as much as the motor/solenoids I've come across.


Post# 617296 , Reply# 78   8/15/2012 at 18:18 (3,764 days old) by d-jones (Western Pennsylvania (Pittsburgh Area))        
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I've been trying every appropriate search term I can think of and haven't been able to find that top panel on eBay. I don't suppose you could post a link could you?

Post# 617299 , Reply# 79   8/15/2012 at 18:24 (3,764 days old) by toploadloyalist (San Luis Obispo, CA)        

What year did GE washers first stopped agitating with the lid open? Back in the 70s, I had neighbors with a c.1969 GE (the first filter-flo I ever saw!) that continued agitating with the lid open.

Post# 617319 , Reply# 80   8/15/2012 at 20:09 (3,764 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
GE Mulit Speed Clutches

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Alex the solenoid you pictured was a very rare one that was only used on the three and four speed clutches. These 3&4 SP clutches used two of these solenoids, this solenoid will not work for the much more popular two SP clutch you have. It is amazing to even see one of these rare solenoids. I recently sold a 3 SP GE washer to GE extra-rince[ Matthew ] maybe he needs this, but I have never seen a bad one.


Post# 617345 , Reply# 81   8/15/2012 at 20:55 (3,764 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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That solenoid did look different from the ones that were already paired with the motors I had seen for sale and wondered if there were more than one I needed. .
Thanks for clearing that up for me combo52!


Post# 617356 , Reply# 82   8/15/2012 at 21:11 (3,764 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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d-jones, I'll look through my history to see if I can relocate the page.

Post# 617454 , Reply# 83   8/16/2012 at 05:59 (3,763 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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...give me that metal mini-basket and nobody gets hurt!

Post# 617460 , Reply# 84   8/16/2012 at 06:17 (3,763 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Metal Mini-Basket ?

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I think it is white plastic, I have never heard of a metal one, does anyone know anything different ?

 

Your picture is my all time favorite pair of GEs from the 60s, I have this pair with the four speed clutch and no bleach dispenser.


Post# 617909 , Reply# 85   8/17/2012 at 16:36 (3,762 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Difference between large and extra large capacity agitators.

Post# 617911 , Reply# 86   8/17/2012 at 16:38 (3,762 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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..trying out knobs from a newer GE washer. i like the chrome ring around the newer knobs. the older knobs are yellowed and don't look crisp and white.

Post# 617916 , Reply# 87   8/17/2012 at 16:58 (3,762 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 618000 , Reply# 88   8/17/2012 at 22:45 (3,762 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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"progress is our most important product"

Post# 618002 , Reply# 89   8/17/2012 at 22:51 (3,762 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

You know, that's one thing I really liked are those chrome ring knobs from newer GE washers. They make the washer look a lot more expensive than it is.

Those knobs also suffer from yellowing as well.. but at least they're newer.


Post# 618424 , Reply# 90   8/19/2012 at 16:36 (3,760 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Luckily these have not. The newer knobs are from our 7-year old washer which is in a laundry room without windows. If we had had a window in there I'm sure they would too have yellowed like you said.
I wanted to try them on for size. They fit perfectly, including the timer knob. It would be a swell upgrade to give the beige and white facade a little bling factor with the chrome rings, but I'm a sucker for black-n-chrome, and going to switch out the console as I mentioned above.
But still, my how the mighty have fallen. GE used to have some real lookers for their laundry equipment back in the day and I often wonder what happened to the magic?
Then I saw this book and read the synopsis, it explained all.
Looks like good reading.

"With convincing passion and meticulous research, Thomas F. O'Boyle explores the forces behind General Electric's rise to the top of Wall Street, questioning if GE, with chief executive officer Jack Welch at the helm, is still "bringing good things to life." Welch--explosive, profit-hungry, and pragmatic--catapulted GE's stocks to the top, up 1,155 percent from 1982 to 1997. O'Boyle argues that these astounding results have come only with the heavy price of employees' lives, blighted under the tyranny of "Neutron Jack" Welch, so named for his bomb-like ability to eliminate staff without disturbing surrounding operations. During Welch's reign, hard-nosed success tactics--unblinking downsizing, ruthless acquisition negotiations, and the virtual abandonment of manufacturing in favor of the more glamorous entertainment and financial services industries--coexist with scandals like price-fixing, pollution, and defense contract fraud. Sure to spark controversy, this gripping, comprehensive account begs the greater question: Is Jack Welch's GE a model company for business in the next century, or is it time to change the way the world does business?

"Smoothly written and thoroughly researched." --USA Today

"This book makes a valuable contribution to our understanding of corporate America. . . . Thomas F. O'Boyle persuades you that GE--Jack Welch's GE--brings bad things to life. In abundance." --Washington Monthly


Post# 618501 , Reply# 91   8/19/2012 at 21:14 (3,760 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

The GE Filter-Flo was a testament to decent North American Engineering.

IMHO, it seemed to me that this platform kind of peaked in the late 1960's with the development of the Versatronic system. It wasn't the best engineering, but it was really cutting edge at the time and there was nothing quite like it.

Then everything just kind plateaued and nothing happened until the early 1990's when they finally decided to abandon the platform and design everything from scratch. You could certainly tell though that they wanted to cut corners and make everything cheaper to manufacture.

The new platform did have the advantage of larger tubs, indented tubs for greater surface area, Microprocessor control.. but they went to a 30 degree agitator stroke, plastic gears and lots of generally inferior engineering in general.

Then they thought up the Hydrowave system, which in theory wasn't a bad idea per say... A high voltage DC controlled servo, no transmission and the mode selector technology. (Of which, unfortunately, it was flawed. Mode selectors would burn out and get stuck into the spin mode, oddly enough. Probably a good thing that they stuck in this mode, rather than getting stuck in agitation mode. An agitator spinning at 600 RPM wouldn't really do good things to clothing.)

I think if anything, GE would benefit considerably if they brought the Filter-Flo technology back using modern electronics and technology. It would also take a good marketing effort too, to give people an incentive to buy it.

Heck, if they are adverse to the idea of using a filter pan, they could always use the rimflow technology instead... But personally, I like filter pans better.

I wish you the best of luck in building your frankenmachine...

I think it would be quite an endeavor for the forum members to develop "The Ultimate Filter-Flo" machine.. This would be far beyond my mechanical capabilities, but I certainly have a few good ideas!


Post# 618503 , Reply# 92   8/19/2012 at 21:19 (3,760 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

Which makes me wonder about something... How well would a heavily modified Hydrowave system work with Filter-Flo technology?

The agitator on a Hydrowave machine spins 360 degrees, which is kind of a strange reversal from the 90 degree stroke on a Filter-Flo, then down to the 30 degree stroke on their more modern platforms..

Would it work better with a ramp style agitator instead of a fin-type?

I do have to admit how much machining would have to be done to make everything "fit".

It almost makes me wish I had enough knowledge to build a custom one-off.


Post# 618955 , Reply# 93   8/21/2012 at 11:44 (3,758 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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** Something related I posted in another thread regarding modified GE Filtewr-Flo**
I have an extra Stainless steel basket from a newer GE I thought of having modified to fit the Filter-Flo. The newer tub uses a mounting hub and it is that hub that would need to be drilled to accept the filter flo tub mount.
I spoke to a welder about possibly welding something together and he was afraid the Newer tub hub was made of "pot" metal and would not stand up to any temperatures welding would create. :(
He also mentioned it would be very hard to get everything "hubcentric" to eliminate any balancing issues. Not to big a deal for washing, but not ideal when spinning.


Post# 618957 , Reply# 94   8/21/2012 at 11:45 (3,758 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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** continued **
It would be easy to modify a drain pump from any washer or dish washer to act as a re circulation pump, the rub would be in creating an opening deep enough into the outer tub to provide for pickup and prevent cavitation. It would also be very noisy since it would have to run constantly during the wash cycle, sometimes as long as 14 minutes?
And I would also have to create some kind of balance ring as I don't think the upper stainless steel tub would be able to resist deformation during a high spin without some kind of bracing.


Post# 619021 , Reply# 95   8/21/2012 at 17:24 (3,758 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I know were talking all GE here......but wouldn't the SS tub of a newer Speed Queen fit the bill better......especially the opening for the tranny, I am trying to recall the tubs bottom under the agitator....not to mention this would have the balance ring too........

something to check out!

I would have to jump over to my brothers and pull his agitator out and snap a pic.....give me a little time Alex...


Post# 619025 , Reply# 96   8/21/2012 at 17:47 (3,758 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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...the balance ring for the newer GE tub attaches to the outer tub which is not possible with the Filter-Flo outer tub. Too bad!

Post# 619325 , Reply# 97   8/22/2012 at 22:43 (3,757 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I went ahead and ordered some new control knobs off ebay just to change things up a bit and give this ugly betty some bling.

Post# 619326 , Reply# 98   8/22/2012 at 22:44 (3,757 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 619328 , Reply# 100   8/22/2012 at 22:49 (3,757 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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"I'm afraid i can't do that Dave"

Post# 619329 , Reply# 101   8/22/2012 at 22:51 (3,757 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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"Close encounters of the Filter-Flo kind"

Post# 619331 , Reply# 102   8/22/2012 at 22:52 (3,757 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 619333 , Reply# 104   8/22/2012 at 22:58 (3,757 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 619334 , Reply# 105   8/22/2012 at 23:03 (3,757 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Does anyone know of where I can find a GE decal or Emblem that is 1"-4" big?

Post# 619341 , Reply# 106   8/22/2012 at 23:28 (3,757 days old) by dnastrau (Lords Valley, PA)        
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Ebay...

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Post# 619343 , Reply# 107   8/22/2012 at 23:32 (3,757 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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That lit mini basket has got to be one of the best ideas....

and you will tell how you did that


Post# 619349 , Reply# 108   8/22/2012 at 23:53 (3,757 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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..the other console I bought finally arrived. I tried it on to get a feel for it.

Post# 619351 , Reply# 109   8/22/2012 at 23:59 (3,757 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I do like the buttoned up look of the rectangular consoles, rather than the curvaceous later style. Especially in Black
Also pictured is a Filter-Flo pan that Yogitunes sent me in yet another generous care package. Thanks again Yogi!


Post# 619390 , Reply# 110   8/23/2012 at 02:06 (3,756 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Shhhh!!..loose lips sink ships!!

Post# 619391 , Reply# 111   8/23/2012 at 02:24 (3,756 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 619402 , Reply# 112   8/23/2012 at 05:41 (3,756 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Daisy, daisy

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I've enjoyed this thread a lot. Especially "Filter-Flo HAL". LMAO. One day I'm going to try Frankensteining one of my old V-12's into a freak of vintage nature.


Post# 619537 , Reply# 113   8/23/2012 at 16:04 (3,756 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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GE WASHER BASKET HUB WH17X69

Post# 619561 , Reply# 114   8/23/2012 at 17:46 (3,756 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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it does look better with the black squared panel, and the red graphics....oddly enough, the speed toggle should have been chrome....

with a dremel tool, you can file down the clover leaf of the water level, and get a true half load, and small can still be used alone, or with a minibasket....just a thought


Post# 619639 , Reply# 115   8/23/2012 at 22:29 (3,756 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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This is the model number of the black control panel. Born on date?

Post# 619930 , Reply# 116   8/25/2012 at 00:24 (3,755 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 619933 , Reply# 117   8/25/2012 at 00:28 (3,755 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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..Circa 1967

Post# 619935 , Reply# 118   8/25/2012 at 00:34 (3,755 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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.. And the Holy Grail of all modern Filter-Flo's. The "Dispensall", circa 1973.

Post# 619988 , Reply# 119   8/25/2012 at 07:20 (3,754 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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JUNE 1991

Post# 620241 , Reply# 120   8/26/2012 at 00:11 (3,754 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

Someone posted a picture of a GE Versatronic set selling for $10 in another thread. It seems to me like the two most desired machines are:

- The 1958 GE Filter-Flo (First year of it.)
- The 1968 GE Versatronic Filter-Flo
- The 1973 GE Dispensall Filter-Flo
- The 1994 GE Filter-Flo. (Last year of it. Non-Rim Flo model)

Can you guys/gals think of any other Filter-Flo machines made by GE which are collectors must haves? (Maybe showcasing some unique feature)


Post# 620465 , Reply# 121   8/26/2012 at 20:06 (3,753 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
GE FF Washers

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First year in the states was 1956.

 

 You would be very lucky if you find a Versatronic that works, I have never seen one, it wasn't a very durable clutch design and actually NO GE two speed, three speed and four speed clutch was very durable if you used the lower speeds much as it slipped constantly. It is like having manual transmission car and driving with your left foot resting on the clutch petal. Occasionally I would find a customer with a GE washer that only used the low speed settings and if they did much laundry the clutch would only last a 1/2 dozen years at best.

 

The Dispensall feature was unique but offered no functional advantage over the models before it that had the timed bleach and fabric softener dispersers neatly built into the washers top and it was messier and more troublesome.

 

The last GE FF spot scrubber was a pretty neat washer and is diffidently a good performer and all the above washers are worth collecting for the unique rareness.


Post# 620755 , Reply# 122   8/27/2012 at 22:54 (3,752 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Sure, now that I'm not looking for one. An older GE XL capacity dryer is for sale on the local Craig's!

Post# 620757 , Reply# 123   8/27/2012 at 23:05 (3,752 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Since we had hurricane Issac giving us rainy weather and i was stuck inside, I decided to try and switch out the Filter-Flo consoles. I wired everything up except the speed selector switch since I don't have provisions for that in my original wiring harness and fired her up. The machine began to fill and I was all smitten until the water kicked off and the lights dimmed. I heard a click and lights came back on. Figured the timer might be stuck so i gave it a whirl and selected a higher water level and started again. Same thing happened. So I next tried reattaching my old water level and temp switches and only hooked up the timer. Again, lights dim and nothing but a click. So I just reattached my original console and verified everything worked. May have something to do with the colors of the multi-plug to the motors. Some are Green (like mine), others are red or white. Will have to experiment when I have that 2-speed clutch and relay handy.

Post# 620816 , Reply# 124   8/28/2012 at 07:12 (3,751 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Non Starting GE FF Washer

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There is likely a problem with the connections for the motor, GE used so many different wire color combinations that I have found that the only to substitute motors on GE FFs [ unless you have the exact motor ] is compare both machines wiring diagrams and make the connections as required.


Post# 621237 , Reply# 125   8/30/2012 at 02:02 (3,749 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Luckily I have the data sheets for one at least.

Post# 621264 , Reply# 126   8/30/2012 at 06:15 (3,749 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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are you sure the relay is wired correctly?

just a thought


Post# 621727 , Reply# 127   9/1/2012 at 07:40 (3,747 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 621857 , Reply# 129   9/1/2012 at 18:31 (3,747 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Yogi..The only thing I wasn't really sure of was the water temp switch. I currently have 4 positions and the new panel only has 3.

Post# 621858 , Reply# 130   9/1/2012 at 18:32 (3,747 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 621859 , Reply# 131   9/1/2012 at 18:33 (3,747 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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...so I cut up the multi-plug and just placed the same colored wires where indicated, leaving the Blue wire unplugged.

Post# 621860 , Reply# 132   9/1/2012 at 18:34 (3,747 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 621864 , Reply# 133   9/1/2012 at 18:38 (3,747 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I also experimented with adding the mini-basket to the standard capacity washer and the tub is too shallow for it to work properly. The basket barely fits on the agitator and is only stable when you add the filter pan. At that point the water flow barely makes it over the rim to the basket.

Post# 621865 , Reply# 134   9/1/2012 at 18:40 (3,747 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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..not 100% effective, but a whole lot of fun!

Post# 621866 , Reply# 135   9/1/2012 at 18:41 (3,747 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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.basket with pan installed.

Post# 622176 , Reply# 136   9/2/2012 at 21:17 (3,746 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I did shoot a short video of the mini-basket experiment to illustrate what happened.


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Post# 622652 , Reply# 137   9/5/2012 at 01:48 (3,743 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I've been busy lately and have neglected to run my Spotscrubber Filter-Flo for a few weeks and decided it was time to take her out for a spin. I had been having some load balancing issues due to missing and worn out rubber pads on the washer feet. Thankfully, yogitunes heard my cries for help, like princessLeia looking for Obi Wan, and sent me a few replacements.
As you can see from the photo, the older pad I had looked like Gandhi's flip flop and had seen better days. (on the right)


Post# 622654 , Reply# 138   9/5/2012 at 01:53 (3,743 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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...After the feet were replaced. I then carefully leveled the machine, side to side and front to back. Success! Ran a few loads and the washer ran like a champ. No more balance issues and the washer doesn't wobble, looking like it's a drunken hula girl at a Hawaiian luau.

Post# 622659 , Reply# 139   9/5/2012 at 02:48 (3,743 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
technopolis

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Im interested in that return hose, where did you see it?

jet


Post# 622663 , Reply# 140   9/5/2012 at 03:18 (3,743 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Ebay: Genuine GE WH41X113 Washer Recirc Hose NEW in Package
For some odd reason the seller has it listed under "building supplies/tubing" category instead of laundry parts, go figure.
He's got it on sale from $49.99, marked down to $42.99 + 2.99 shipping.
I posted a link to it. Let me know if it doesn't work.

"SURRENDER THAT WINDOWED NEPTUNE DRYER DOOR DOROTHY, OR ELSE!~"


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Post# 622668 , Reply# 141   9/5/2012 at 03:43 (3,743 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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..Or else~!!!

Post# 622712 , Reply# 142   9/5/2012 at 08:35 (3,743 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
LOL

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that door is going to move over to the washer pretty soon......AH AHAHAHHAHAHAA



Post# 622831 , Reply# 143   9/5/2012 at 18:22 (3,743 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 622912 , Reply# 144   9/6/2012 at 03:51 (3,742 days old) by MikeKLondon ()        
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Mike that Hotpoint looks like new, what year was the last one made?

Post# 623060 , Reply# 145   9/6/2012 at 17:23 (3,742 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 623775 , Reply# 146   9/9/2012 at 22:31 (3,739 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        

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LOL!

Post# 623934 , Reply# 147   9/10/2012 at 15:21 (3,738 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Jetcone,
What's sudden interest in the Filter-Flo hose? It's woefully overpriced and there are less expensive replacements. Is there an advantage to this "all in one" design? I prefer the white "Never kink" corrugated hoses since you can somewhat see through them and can keep an eye on any bacterial growth.
-Alex


Post# 623953 , Reply# 148   9/10/2012 at 16:33 (3,738 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
UK Filter Flow

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Hi Mike, the last one was made in 1989, thats why there are still many about!! 10lb load, hot & cold fill, 2.75kw heater and 1050rpm.



Post# 624730 , Reply# 149   9/13/2012 at 18:11 (3,735 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Once I had gotten the SpotScubber leveled out I got into the habit of letting the cycle complete without watching over it. Well, the other night I just happened to come out to find the washer in the final spin and this loud repetitive clicking/clacking noise coming from the washer that sounded remotely like the speed shift engagement of the solenoid and clutch. So I shut the washer off and restarted it, only to have the same noise return. Go to the back of the machine and find this tiny weeping leak coming from the area of where the drain hose attaches to the water pump. The water ran down the motor yoke, up and over the wiring harness and thru the connector leading to the clutch solenoid. Possibly shorting it out. I then turned my attention to the "never kink" PVC drain hose and found it was splitting apart at the seam. These hoses are tuff new, but get hella brittle as they age and one day just split. OK, So I'll be replacing it with a new hose, but that brings me back to the clutch/solenoid problem. Now my washer is stuck on "gentle" spin/agitate.

Post# 624733 , Reply# 150   9/13/2012 at 18:18 (3,735 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Who's the Genius at GE that decided it was a good idea to line up the washer drain pump outlet over the main motor wiring harness connection? You would have though that UL would have pointed that out to them.

Post# 624735 , Reply# 151   9/13/2012 at 18:21 (3,735 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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.I rerouted the clutch solenoid wiring connector up out of the way from the mail wiring harness with a zip tie to discourage water from running down into it.

Post# 624736 , Reply# 152   9/13/2012 at 18:22 (3,735 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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.Looks like I have a few "BUGS" to work out.

Post# 625203 , Reply# 153   9/15/2012 at 16:12 (3,733 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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.. A bright and shiny newer motor/clutch and relay assembly is a sight to behold though, might have to just break-down and buy one, even if it costs almost as much a whole machine on the used market.
Not sure if the green connector is going to make any difference to the red one on the original, they are both equipped with 2-speed clutches. Maybe related to horsepower? 1/3, 1/2 or 1/4?


Post# 625227 , Reply# 154   9/15/2012 at 18:30 (3,733 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I take it that the water leak killed the motor......

you can get a new one like this, or hold out for a while and see if another machine turns up, maybe with a rust issue or something, and have a decent motor/clutch you can use......


Post# 625229 , Reply# 155   9/15/2012 at 18:42 (3,733 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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The motor is fine, I'm just stuck in gentle/slow spin. I guess I can't disengage the clutch to get normal/Fast?

Post# 625231 , Reply# 156   9/15/2012 at 18:52 (3,733 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Just a thought, If the solenoid was energized in error due to the leak, maybe the cam/actuatort arm might be bent out of position? Something I have to look into once I replace the "no kink" drain hose.

Post# 625233 , Reply# 157   9/15/2012 at 18:54 (3,733 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 625234 , Reply# 158   9/15/2012 at 18:55 (3,733 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 625235 , Reply# 159   9/15/2012 at 19:00 (3,733 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I was gonna say.....with the solenoid unplugged.....you should get high speed all the time.....that arm might be stuck causing slow speed......otherwise, the clutch most likely can't be stuck in low gear....

Post# 626725 , Reply# 160   9/22/2012 at 05:06 (3,726 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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The machine always started out in slow agitation regardless of cycle. Just about when the tub locks into place, it changes into normal agitation. I disconnected the solenoid with no change. The assembly is pretty gunked up, and I can definitely smell the distinct odor of old gear oil when she's in a spin and that motor coupler is blowing air out of the cabinet. Maybe it's bound, a broken return spring?
I found this kit online for a new complete motor, belt, clutch and relay to put on my wish list if I wanted to take the easy way out, but that's not how we do it here on AW.O!
One thing that I need answered is regarding this warning label included with the kit.
Does this make buying a used motor an act in futility if it doesn't come with it's previous relay?


Post# 626734 , Reply# 161   9/22/2012 at 08:05 (3,726 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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its just always best with a new motor to replace the relay as well......sometimes the relay is the reason why the motor burnt out in the first place......better safe than sorry

Post# 626837 , Reply# 162   9/22/2012 at 14:53 (3,726 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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.For sure Yogi, I'm with you regarding replacing with new if available.
I'm just glad to find boxed "NOS" vintage parts all these years later.


Post# 626838 , Reply# 163   9/22/2012 at 14:54 (3,726 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        
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I see that vintage re-circulation hose sold, did you buy it?

Post# 626970 , Reply# 164   9/22/2012 at 23:23 (3,726 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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** I got my normal/fast speed back! **
It seems that little actuator arm for the speed solenoid was bent. Even though the relay wasn't energized, the arm would not drop down far enough and still made enough contact to keep the clutch engaged, hence the continuous gentle/slow speed.
GE did not make it easy to fix either, unless you want to tilt the machiene forward, the relay is not only hard to see, but also to get at. I had to get my brightest LED lamp jammed into the motor yoke just to get enough light in there to work on it. There are 2 peep holes on the side of the yoke, but move your head and you loose sight of it. Very frustrating. I was finally able to bent it back a bit to free the clutch cam and Ba-bamm, I'm back in Biz!
I have not tried to reengage gentle mode until I am ready to repair the actuator arm. Right now I have to divert my attention to repairing my Neptune bearings, at least I don't have to replace any major part$!


Post# 627394 , Reply# 165   9/24/2012 at 21:24 (3,724 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Tonight I replaced the split drain hose with a spare hose I had for a Whirlpool Duet, connected the speed solenoid back up, and started the machine.
Filled, started to agitate in gentle as normal, and then, click, back into fast agitate/spin for the rest of the cycle.
So it appears the speed solenoid and actuator arm are working properly.


Post# 627396 , Reply# 166   9/24/2012 at 21:31 (3,724 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Found in the Archives.
Interesting consoles.


Post# 627397 , Reply# 167   9/24/2012 at 21:32 (3,724 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 627398 , Reply# 168   9/24/2012 at 21:33 (3,724 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 627407 , Reply# 169   9/24/2012 at 22:08 (3,724 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 627457 , Reply# 170   9/25/2012 at 08:57 (3,723 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I decided to run another test load, this time with the Permanent Press cycle. It consists of Gentle agitation and fast spins with the extra rinse. The speed solenoid would be getting quite a workout here. Machine performed flawlessly, no issues. Seems these old GE's are tough and hard to kill. Rust-through is probably what sends these out to pasture versus outright mechanical failure.

Post# 627470 , Reply# 171   9/25/2012 at 10:24 (3,723 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
Reply # 170. Wow, that was the same model FF I had.

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First time I've seen one other than my own. It's living in southern New Jersey now.


Post# 627527 , Reply# 172   9/25/2012 at 16:33 (3,723 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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kinda funny Louie....your machine did look like the one in post 170......but that pic in 168 is your base, with a changed over control panel.....and gone from Minibasket, to Handwash with the 2-n-1 agitator, and RimFlo filtering.....and still going strong!

Post# 627632 , Reply# 173   9/26/2012 at 06:19 (3,722 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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SO you can't have the handwash agi and a filter pan :(, Good to know. But mini basket ok?

Post# 627643 , Reply# 174   9/26/2012 at 07:28 (3,722 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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A few notes.

 

    GE 2SP clutch washers always start on low speed when set for Hi SP, they will shift to high as the clutches carrier plate comes up to speed from the friction in the carrier plate bearing, this can take as little as a few seconds to more than 30 seconds, this is completely normal.

 

    The motor start relay should be replaced when replacing the motor if the old motor  had an electrical failure or if the motor being installed is not the exact motor that was originally on the washer. It should also always be used if it comes packed with the replacement motor.

 

    You can not use the Mini-Basket or agitator mounted lint filter on the two piece HP style agitators, these first two features were exclusive GE features and the two piece agitator was given only to HP and its derivatives like Penn-Crest.


Post# 627650 , Reply# 175   9/26/2012 at 08:26 (3,722 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
That hose

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fits the 1950's FF machines so its a keeper! But someone here on the club was nice enough to snag it for me and is sending it to me.

As for price , well where am I gonna find a 1950's part these days? Its blind luck to keeping things original.

But wait there is another much later model FF in the offing coming soon to a basement near me!! Details to follow as the Multiverse unfolds!


Post# 627846 , Reply# 176   9/27/2012 at 02:33 (3,721 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 627849 , Reply# 177   9/27/2012 at 04:14 (3,721 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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.another console (close up)

Post# 628029 , Reply# 178   9/28/2012 at 07:09 (3,720 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
you crack me up

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Alex! And take me literally I see.

Hint: There is turquoise in it...in what?you say? the FF!



Post# 628154 , Reply# 179   9/28/2012 at 19:03 (3,720 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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That hose had a production date on it of 2002? So it's minty fresh for a 1950's machine. Glad someone was able to give it a good home.

Post# 628822 , Reply# 180   10/1/2012 at 19:29 (3,717 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
Filter Flo project update?

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Who needs tv or radio, just search on AW.org for threads with tecnopolis tackling heavy metal....always interesting and funny between - so, Alex...what else is planned for the much modified FF or is it complete and working as you wanted?

Those old turquoise and pink accent Filter-Flo's are like exotic birds compared to today's offerings.




Post# 628835 , Reply# 181   10/1/2012 at 20:14 (3,717 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I am at a crossroads, I have to decide weather to combine the best of the best or not, that is the question. I would be happy with having just one Filter-Flo. I would more than likely just sell the rest of what's left over, since some parts aren't quite interchangeable if I want to remain true to the way the machines are labeled. Such as Large and extra-large capacity. Being able to fit the special Spot Scrubber Mini-wash basket,filter pan, fabric softener disp and be able to close the lid. You can't do that with the shallower Large capacity wash tub, not even with the smaller mini-basket. Sounds like I just made up my mind.

Post# 628842 , Reply# 182   10/1/2012 at 20:46 (3,717 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
Making road maps

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At least you chart your own road and go for it..you get a lot of bang for the buck, and bucked around getting ..well, never mind. :-) I take it that you have a plethora of different baskets - thought of this thread, when I saw this on CL. Good work, Alex, whether it panned (basketed) out or not. :-)

CLICK HERE TO GO TO ovrphil's LINK on Tampa Craigslist


Post# 628868 , Reply# 183   10/1/2012 at 22:13 (3,717 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Actually, that isn't my listing. Good deal though if you don't have to have it shipped, as the whole assembly is bulky and heavy.
My Filter-Flo chapter only began a few months ago, so I haven't had time to accumulate too many duplicates. And like you said, these birds aren't as rare as the models featured in some of the POD advertisements. I think one fully functioning Flo is gonna have to do. They way I figure it, It would cost more to have the dents/rust fixed and the cabinet repainted, than to body snatch the white cabinet.


Post# 628873 , Reply# 184   10/1/2012 at 22:31 (3,717 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Having both versions around has been very helpful. Seeing what makes them different was a good learning tool and that is priceless. Now, the next time I come across one for sale I'll know what to look for. Which is a great negotiating tool.
So watch this space, I sense change a'cummin.

Don't tell anybody, but there is this older creamy, beige Maytag pair for sale locally that are soo cheery and selling for the low, so I might have to quickly make room should they just suddenly appear at the entrance to my driveway. You know what I herd? Once you try a Maytag helical gear, you never go back. We'll see if the rumors are true. I'm on the case.


Post# 628876 , Reply# 185   10/1/2012 at 22:35 (3,717 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 628877 , Reply# 186   10/1/2012 at 22:37 (3,717 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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.I figured these would sell quick, but has not been the case. Anyone care to venture a guess as to the models? A207 Circa 1973?

Post# 628880 , Reply# 187   10/1/2012 at 22:59 (3,717 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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..wasn't alluding that it was your listing - just reminded me of the baskets you were trying to retrofit....

IS THAT YOUR Filter-Flo with the Energy Guide sticker, in front of that white and cream truck? Wow.

BTW, Ocala Craigslisting is good; those Maytags look regal in beige ( fun in turquoise, yellow). Not sure what you are saying about helical trans(my '84 A482 Maytag is helical).... thought the orbital trans were actually the more coveted. Whadda I know? :-)


Post# 628881 , Reply# 188   10/1/2012 at 23:15 (3,717 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
Anyone care to venture a guess as to the models?

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Washer is an LA608 (one step down from TOL).

Dryer is pretty low end. Probably an LDE308.


Post# 628909 , Reply# 189   10/2/2012 at 05:55 (3,716 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        
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Yes, That is my 1st "Flo" in Almond. The energy label has since been removed.
..and Yes, I erred, I meant Orbital. Something about seeing that whole tranny spinning is a visual curiosity.


Post# 628910 , Reply# 190   10/2/2012 at 05:59 (3,716 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        
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Thanks for identifying them. I'm not at all familiar with the Maytag Model number hierarchy at all.
A BOL dryer doesn't bother me as much as a BOL washer.


Post# 628922 , Reply# 191   10/2/2012 at 07:56 (3,716 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Hey Alex!

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If you're not already scanning all that unique and extensive GE literature and sending it to Robert for the Ephemera archives I'm going to fly down to Florida and give you such a pinch.


Post# 628949 , Reply# 192   10/2/2012 at 10:34 (3,716 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        
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Don't worry bajaespuma, As long as there is an Automaticwasher.org, this information will always be part of the archives.
Robert has always run a tight ship, so I'm sure we aren't going by way of the Sumerians anytime soon. Although, the Mayans do say to keep your calendar free after Dec,22,2012. Jus sayn.


Post# 628950 , Reply# 193   10/2/2012 at 10:48 (3,716 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
Keeping up

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I watched in mesmerizing daze, an orbital trans demo shown in a tour of old washers, youtube. It's interesting how the motor shaft is translated to achieve the back and forth motion(the "force" was with the inventor that day).

Hope you kept that first GE FF - just LOVE that model. Older washers/dryers r so much more spirited...etc.

Recommendation of the day: don't get pinched, it has repercussions.





Post# 628959 , Reply# 194   10/2/2012 at 11:09 (3,716 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Thanks for the pic regardless of pinching.

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That last 1964 Filter-Flo graphic was rare and wonderful. Have never seen its like before and once again I am reminded that I missed a great and enjoyable career by being born 20 years too late. Oh well.

 

That Sumerian on the left looks like my Great Uncle Vagheh.


Post# 629019 , Reply# 195   10/2/2012 at 16:45 (3,716 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I wanted to add this reply I left in another thread related to diagnosing speed actuator issues.

"keepitclean, Having just gone through what you are describing. I'll give you a few things to check to verify the position of your clutch during operation.

**The GE workshop manual specifically states DO NOT switch speeds with the motor engaged**

1) All muti-speed GE flo's start out in gentle, then switch to regular agitate.
2) If your machine starts out in regular fast or won't engage gentle, your solenoid is not getting power or jammed. The default speed is regular if there isn't any interaction from the actuator arm.
3) This last one is the hardest. Get a very bright flashlight and verify the position of the speed actuator arm. If it's down and not making any contact with the clutch cams, you should have normal/fast. If it's in the up position with it's paw holding one of the 2 clutch cams, you're in gentle. If you have it switched to Normal/fast and the cam is still up, you either have a short in the wiring keeping the solenoid energized or the cam arm is sticky/bent to far upwards and isn't comming down low enough to clear the spinning clutch cams. (Which was what happened to me when a leak energized the actuator during the wrong time, bending the arm, I took a long screwdriver and rebent the arm back down to clear the clutch cams and restarted the machine with normal back in biz."


Post# 631364 , Reply# 196   10/13/2012 at 18:23 (3,705 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Fall has finally reached the south and the humidity level has dropped to comfortable level. Perfect weather for working out in the garage, which is usually a sauna until way after dark. Now I can work on my Filter-Flo creations!


Post# 631809 , Reply# 197   10/15/2012 at 11:11 (3,703 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 631851 , Reply# 200   10/15/2012 at 14:06 (3,703 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I was out in the lab with my Filter-Flo and decided to run a small enough load to warrant use of the mini-basket.  Although this washer doesn't have a "mini-wash" setting, I just set it on the low water level setting. 

Well, after a few minutes of washing I lifted the lid and was surprised at what I saw. My first Suds Cake!  


Post# 631852 , Reply# 201   10/15/2012 at 14:08 (3,703 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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.is this like the "mile high" club, only different?


Post# 632156 , Reply# 202   10/16/2012 at 17:57 (3,702 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I came across this today searching the internet for GE washer parts. 

I didn't know GE had made appliances for JCPenny's. I thought that they were all Norge based?

Here's a picture for the record. Interesting color too.


Post# 632159 , Reply# 203   10/16/2012 at 18:05 (3,702 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 632163 , Reply# 205   10/16/2012 at 18:18 (3,702 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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the JCPenney machines by GE were some nice looking models....especially with the side opening lid

Post# 632186 , Reply# 206   10/16/2012 at 20:59 (3,702 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Easily transfer your GE console in place of the Penny's and Baam, instant classic GE in 2-tone Avocado. 

Not too shabby for $25.


Post# 632305 , Reply# 207   10/17/2012 at 09:50 (3,701 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        

I believe JC Penney sold rebadged Hotpoint washers, and after a certain year (late 1970s?) Hotpoint washers switched to the GE design.

 

Ken D.


Post# 632318 , Reply# 208   10/17/2012 at 10:56 (3,701 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I noticed that the JCPenny's dryer has an extra lower fascia where a STD capacity GE dryer would have an open toe-kick.  That addition is something GE should have done on their own dryers once they did away with the foot pedal opener.

It would blend better with the companion washer of the time.

Such as in this picture from the Archives. 




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Post# 632322 , Reply# 209   10/17/2012 at 11:10 (3,701 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Thank you Robert!

Today's POD JCPenny's washer showing all the familiar GE components with the "Rim Flo" system.


Post# 632323 , Reply# 210   10/17/2012 at 11:11 (3,701 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 632327 , Reply# 211   10/17/2012 at 11:24 (3,701 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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What this shows is how versatile the Filter-Flo chassis really is and how clever GE was/is in getting the most models out there using the same tooling and factories.  What this means for us is that you can literally build your own custom "couture"  Filter-Flo washer from all the available parts.  Standard or large capacity, mini basket, filter-flo/rim-flo, 1-speed/2-speed or more. Side opening lid/back opening lid. Suds saver, lighted console. 6"/7" tall console, chrome/mono-chromatic finish, etc.  Truly customized to your taste and budget!  

And you can do all of that to the companion dryer, so you'll always have the option of a "matched set".

 


Post# 632357 , Reply# 212   10/17/2012 at 14:31 (3,701 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Just in case I haven't mentioned it...I am searching for this special GE hose. So if anybody has one, please get in contact with me. It's GE Part  #WH8X250.


Post# 634544 , Reply# 213   10/26/2012 at 16:44 (3,692 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 634558 , Reply# 214   10/26/2012 at 19:33 (3,692 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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I love that side opening door on the dryer - nice units and as always, your illustrations are always interesting here, thanks.

Post# 634807 , Reply# 215   10/28/2012 at 00:20 (3,691 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I wanted to include this version of the versatile Filter-Flo washer I came across in another thread.


Post# 635526 , Reply# 216   10/31/2012 at 18:04 (3,687 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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GE filter-Flo transmission.

 




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Post# 635527 , Reply# 217   10/31/2012 at 18:06 (3,687 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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GE Filter-Flo single speed clutch.


Post# 636659 , Reply# 218   11/5/2012 at 05:01 (3,682 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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GE WASHER BASKET HUB/Mount WH17X69


Post# 636660 , Reply# 219   11/5/2012 at 05:05 (3,682 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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 WH2X681D Washer Tub Bolts


Post# 636662 , Reply# 220   11/5/2012 at 05:14 (3,682 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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GE WH43X127 AGITATOR EXTENSION


Post# 636663 , Reply# 221   11/5/2012 at 05:15 (3,682 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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GE 4-port Water Pump WH23X42


Post# 636665 , Reply# 222   11/5/2012 at 05:27 (3,682 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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GE Motor Start Relay_WH12X235


Post# 636673 , Reply# 223   11/5/2012 at 05:53 (3,682 days old) by geextrarinse (Hudson Valley, New York )        
Just a request...

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I'm really enjoying this thread but can we please start a new one? This thread takes FOREVER to load because of all the pics...

Thanks!
Matt


Post# 636725 , Reply# 224   11/5/2012 at 11:41 (3,682 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Well my intention was to keep all the research I did on the Filter-Flo under one "roof" so it wood be easy to access for someone like me who only a few months ago didn't know much about the inner workings of the washer. And not have to bounce around from thread to thread to get up to speed. Jus sayn.

-Alex

 

PS: A commercial for General Electric's 1958 Filter-Flow washer.



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Post# 638328 , Reply# 227   11/11/2012 at 18:57 (3,676 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Cool GE SpotScrubber Ad

Post# 640130 , Reply# 228   11/19/2012 at 01:12 (3,668 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Don't ask me why, but I think I bought these. I'll know tomorrow at 1pm.

Post# 640131 , Reply# 229   11/19/2012 at 01:13 (3,668 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Looks like the Xtra Large capacity tub and the large capacity ramp agitator with the extension. 2-speed.

Post# 640132 , Reply# 230   11/19/2012 at 01:16 (3,668 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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They are Almond in color. I didn't have a chance to ask if they have the filter pan or mini basket, but luckily I have a set on hand if they don't.


Post# 640215 , Reply# 231   11/19/2012 at 11:44 (3,668 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I woke up today after a restless night of sleep with a gnawing feeling in my stomach and realized I just didn't need another washer/dryer set sitting around. I reluctantly called the seller and told her I was gonna pass on them. I guess I need to stop having a knee-jerk reaction every time I see a Filter-Flo for sale. I can't save them all. :(

Post# 640226 , Reply# 232   11/19/2012 at 12:25 (3,668 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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Alex,

 

Some of your GE literature is wonderful. Thank you for posting it. Love the chiquita with the 1958 machines.


Post# 640229 , Reply# 233   11/19/2012 at 12:57 (3,668 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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technolpolis - It's a good thing you don't have a warehouse, like some of the aw.org members do, you might end up with a museum, full of ads and graphic signs, memorabilia...centering around Maytag. The Madison, GA Bubblecar museum, we recently visited, reminded me of those who have huge w&D collections, among other appliances. Your graphics are entertaining, as usual - that one with Interstate 30 - thought of Route 66 that I was lucky to use, before the freeway replaced it completely.



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Post# 641390 , Reply# 234   11/25/2012 at 00:34 (3,662 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        
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It's funny, I am a huge fan of the bubble cars.

Post# 641393 , Reply# 235   11/25/2012 at 00:38 (3,662 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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These little lid bumpers are keen to getting the lid to close quietly and prevent rust inducing metal-to metal contact. Also protects the paint from wearing away. I got a few extra to keep on hand since many of the Filter-Flo's I've come across no longer have them.
GE Part number WH1X1654


Post# 641396 , Reply# 236   11/25/2012 at 00:44 (3,662 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 641606 , Reply# 237   11/25/2012 at 19:16 (3,662 days old) by maytaga806 (Putnam, Michigan)        

I like those GE washers. their nice! my best friend has one. a older one though

Post# 641683 , Reply# 238   11/26/2012 at 06:56 (3,661 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Bubble Car Museum In Georgia

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Smitty and I visited this museum a few years ago and it was fantastic, I highly recommend it to anyone that is a fan of post WW-2 mini-cars.


Post# 641690 , Reply# 239   11/26/2012 at 08:10 (3,661 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
I love bubble cars

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Post# 643190 , Reply# 240   12/1/2012 at 13:41 (3,656 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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GE Washer Pump Elbow Part# WH41X139
Why is this part clear? I imagine to check for an obstruction in the line, but in actuality the pump is farther down the line.


Post# 644537 , Reply# 241   12/6/2012 at 12:42 (3,651 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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This 1958 General Electric Filter-Flo console reminds me of the Frigidaire Control Tower Laundry machines. Simple and elegant. 


Post# 646346 , Reply# 242   12/14/2012 at 03:32 (3,643 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 647267 , Reply# 243   12/18/2012 at 01:08 (3,639 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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PLEASE!
Can anyone help me find GE Part# WH8X250 (the small tube for a GE SpotScrubber washer) for less than $100? Without this, it's just a run of the mill Filter-Flo.


Post# 647272 , Reply# 244   12/18/2012 at 02:14 (3,639 days old) by applianceguy47 ()        

I don't know what that does.  I assume its a valve to stop the flow.  

My parents had the 1985 SpotScrubber washer in almond.

 

The main difference between this, and any other FF was a valve to stop the flow of water from the recirculating spout.  So the minibasket would fill with only enough water AND all the detergent, and that would keep the soapiest water in the minibasket and hence be deeper cleaning.   blah-blah. 

 

And your right, other than that valve it is basically the same as any other FF washer. 

 

Still just as fun, though.  The Filter flo is tops for action.


Post# 647275 , Reply# 245   12/18/2012 at 02:47 (3,639 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I have a SpotScrubber in Almond and had to replace the special hose and solenoid with a standard Filter hose. Would like to replace the rotted hose that nests inside the solenoid to regain the SpotScrubber feature to my washer.

Post# 647872 , Reply# 246   12/20/2012 at 10:22 (3,637 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Alex....let's go outside the box for a minute.....

how badly damaged is the rubber insert of your valve unit.....is it possible to re-line the inside with something like a tube of rubber from a bicycle tire innertube?.....

it would slide inside, using rubber cement to secure in place, and trim any excess.....


I also wonder how far off, if a pinch valve rubber insert from a Hoover TwinTub would work?

just a few thoughts.....


Post# 647897 , Reply# 247   12/20/2012 at 12:08 (3,637 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
Pinch valve

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Hey Tecnopolis------your valve looks like an exact single valve model of my dual exit valve suds model. I just got parts from Easy Appliance, they are disontinued, No Longer Available, and still in stock.

Attached is the diagram of my suds valve, you'll see it's just a dual port version of yours. Link is for part #926 from the diagram. I simply needed 2 of the 4 springs for it, it still was rough as hell, then I got some white lithium greases inside along those metal slides and in those rectangular grooves in the case, it's perfect now. Try that for yours once the leaky valve is replaced.

 

What exactly does your single port valve do, as the "SPotscrubber" function?

 

Also, this thread takes forever to load, could you start Filter Flo Nation #2?

 

And Martin----my indexing is MINOR, and doesn't index with no clothes. I will keep an eye on it, not much else for now. Other than that, a wonderfully functioning machine here.



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Post# 647930 , Reply# 248   12/20/2012 at 14:17 (3,637 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Yogi, Yes I have thought of the bicycle inner tube as a sleeve fix for the tube repair, but wanted to make sure I exhausted my options on finding an OEM solution before I went the MacGyver route.
As it turns out, I just ordered a complete used pinch valve assembly with a good hose for $75. Not exactly cheap, but a lot less than the $126 I've been quoted for the hose alone. It comes with a 90 day warranty. Hopefully this will get my machine back to factory specs and operation. I Can't have knobs and cycles that don't work.
If your like me (and I know you are), the little things seem to bother me just as much as the larger things. Case in point, the missing lid bumpers. Ya, not exactly something that would stop me from being able to use the machine, but it sure did feel better once I got and installed them. It was like Christmas morning. Sometimes that level of attention to detail can derail me, but I see it more of a gift as apposed to a curse.

Akronman, The SpotScrubber cycle is nothing more than an automatic feature to temporary halt the filter flo stream into the special SpotScrubber mini basket once it is filled. The mini basket does not have the typical drain holes located in the bottom which allows the concentrated water and detergent mixture time to work on heavy soil. After a few minutes the valve releases allowing the flow to resume. Once the flow restarts, the detergent mixture is allowed to overflow out the top ports into the wash tub. It's not something I feel I would use all the time, but since it says "SpotScrubber" prominantly on the machine face, I thought it odd not to have the feature working. The SpotScrubber is also featured on the cover of the GE appliance brochure I had as a top of the line model, so I thought it would be something to preserve since it's not as common as an everyday Filter Flo's we typically see.


Post# 647931 , Reply# 249   12/20/2012 at 14:18 (3,637 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 647932 , Reply# 250   12/20/2012 at 14:22 (3,637 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 647936 , Reply# 251   12/20/2012 at 14:36 (3,637 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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you are right Alex......

and almond or not, that is one SWEET machine!.....


second best on my list is that Dispens-All lid.....just neat little inventions, one of a kinds


Post# 648978 , Reply# 252   12/25/2012 at 11:48 (3,632 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I was told my new pinch valve assembly wouldn't be delivered until after Christmas. So I was surprised to find the package on my doorstep Saturday afternoon. I guess Santa came early this year. Stay tuned.....

Post# 650309 , Reply# 253   1/1/2013 at 00:48 (3,625 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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While getting ready to install the new solenoid assembly. I decided to clean up the 2 hoses that connect to it. They had some oxidization on them. Westley's Bleach White to the rescue.

Post# 650310 , Reply# 254   1/1/2013 at 00:49 (3,625 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 650312 , Reply# 255   1/1/2013 at 00:51 (3,625 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 650313 , Reply# 256   1/1/2013 at 00:53 (3,625 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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.In seconds, the oxidized remnants flush down the drain.

Post# 650314 , Reply# 257   1/1/2013 at 00:55 (3,625 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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The old and new solenoids side by side. Overall they are both pretty clean for being as old as they are,(newer one is on the left).

Post# 650316 , Reply# 258   1/1/2013 at 00:59 (3,625 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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A shot of the new hose nested inside the solenoid. It's fairly thick rubber. Note the beefed up section where the scissor-like "pinch" action takes place.

Post# 650317 , Reply# 259   1/1/2013 at 01:01 (3,625 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Looking through the assembly, you can see the "half-moon" shaped area that closes off the water flow when the solenoid is activated.

Post# 652416 , Reply# 260   1/11/2013 at 06:49 (3,615 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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While I was waiting for the hoses to dry. I happened upon these brand new shiny tub bolts. Although I only needed 6 (one set for both of my Filter'Flo's), they come in a pack of 12 complete with washers. So let me know if you need a set and we can work something out.
GE part #WH2X681D


Post# 654381 , Reply# 261   1/18/2013 at 23:33 (3,608 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I also broke down and ordered this new upper trim piece for the SpotScrubber console.
GE washer part# WH42X2131


Post# 655457 , Reply# 262   1/23/2013 at 21:28 (3,603 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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...and a few days later a box arrived at my doorstep bearing these coveted hieroglyphs.


Post# 655460 , Reply# 263   1/23/2013 at 21:47 (3,603 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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The washer had been delivered with the creased control panel trim cap. The gentleman who delivered it thought he was doing me a favor by strapping the washer down by running a cable over the top of it down to the pallet it was riding on. All it did was put this crease in it. It was pretty hard to find a new one to replace it, and when I did it was pretty expensive to boot.

Post# 655461 , Reply# 264   1/23/2013 at 21:50 (3,603 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Old and new, side by side. Probably not something the average washer user would care about, but we're not the average washer users here on AW.O.

Post# 655462 , Reply# 265   1/23/2013 at 21:56 (3,603 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Like nails dragging on a chalk board, this bothered me to no end. Chinese water torture would have been preferable to staring at this every time I did a load!
I did save the old piece just in case I found another washer that might have had a piece in worse or missing condition. Luckily the front of it was still in decent condition.


Post# 655463 , Reply# 266   1/23/2013 at 21:57 (3,603 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 657851 , Reply# 267   2/3/2013 at 13:02 (3,592 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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A must have tool for any serious washer restoration enthusiast.


Post# 660422 , Reply# 268   2/15/2013 at 01:57 (3,580 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 1158963 , Reply# 269   9/7/2022 at 04:54 by chetlaham (United States)        
Pristine GE FF

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Is it just me or are some of the pics showing up sideways or upside down? Is there anyone who can fix this? ;)

I personally would not modify this washer, it is in pristine condition and you are super lucky to have found it this way. I would enjoy the washer as is, unaltered.

This specific model triggers strong feelings of anemoia for myself. I once lived in a condo that had it been built 1 year earlier it would have had this exact same model. But instead I had to endure the cruel joke which took their place, only to feel betrayed when I discovered the stark difference in older units enjoyed by individuals who seemed unaware of just how good they really had it.


I wish FF washers had continued to be make these into the mid-2000s. It would have been well deserved for everyone involved.


Post# 1159246 , Reply# 270   9/10/2022 at 19:45 by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
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GE needs to bring back the filter-flos.

Post# 1159357 , Reply# 271   9/11/2022 at 23:24 by chetlaham (United States)        

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You know, the more I look at this minty FF the more I am starting to feel the same way lol. These weren't bad washers.

Post# 1159791 , Reply# 272   9/18/2022 at 08:24 by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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A K-Mart bought one with the lid opening to the left which my grandma had for a many years was pretty much the only Filter-Flo in my immediate family--separate speeds, as in Normal/Gentle for both agitation and spin, three water levels and it was a standard capacity machine, and boasted Hot/Warm, Warm/Cold, and Cold/Cold temperature settings...



-- Dave


Post# 1159836 , Reply# 273   9/18/2022 at 14:33 by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
GE filter-flo

I remember these washers. I had one which could clean anything. It was the one with the ramped activator and minibasket. I will forever miss that machine.

Post# 1160700 , Reply# 274   9/30/2022 at 07:40 by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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No, just remembered my one long-overdue visit to an uncle's house back in 1996, boasted a filter-fly washer there, from the '80's I'd guess, with an Amana electric dryer from that era I'd visited, replacing its burnt out companion...

 

Not sure if it would have had the mini-basket but it was fairly near-top of the line, so most-likely, but if not noticeably present, then never to seldom used...

 

 

 

-- Dave


Post# 1160726 , Reply# 275   9/30/2022 at 17:12 by bradfordwhite (West Coast, U.S.)        

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It's not unusual for mini-basket tubs, filter-flo pans, and the fabric softener dispensers to become separated or lost from GE washers over time, especially if the party didn't use them.

Back in the day, I was only concerned about the filter pans and had to buy a few pans because the old ones were either missing or clogged (and I didn't realize back then they could be cleaned).

I never bought fabric softener dispensers or mini-tubs and if I found a washer with those it was a pleasant surprise.



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