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Thread Number: 41774
Miele Super Capacity Laundry Review |
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Post# 615976 8/10/2012 at 05:20 (4,269 days old) by logixx  (Germany) |
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Post# 615979 , Reply# 1 8/10/2012 at 05:21 (4,269 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Post# 615986 , Reply# 2 8/10/2012 at 06:18 (4,269 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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Another Miele with no setting for rinse & spin. | ||
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Post# 616006 , Reply# 4 8/10/2012 at 08:30 (4,269 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Actually Read Somewhere Else That The 4800 Series
If not the Honeycomb drum was harsher on laundry than Miele would have one believe. Could have been one of the reasons behind Miele pulling their large units off the market.
Only thing one can think of is they use too little water and or the drum cycles are somehow harder on some textiles. Haven't heard complaints about the 3000 series and they IIRC have the same honeycomb drum. As for "rinse and spin" or "spin" only you'd be surprised how many modern front loaders do not offer those cycles. IIRC some versions of Speed Queen, Bosch and a few others do not offer either. Am sure there are work around but since many of these machines are electronically controlled without a means for resetting a cycle it could be difficult. Had thought about getting a 4800 series washer to take some of the work off the W1070 and prolong it's life, sort of glad one passed. Don't like washers with pre-set cycles and water temps. | ||
| Post# 616084 , Reply# 6 8/10/2012 at 13:48 (4,269 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania) | ||
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Review dated August 9 2012?
No point in anyone doing reviews of this machine in the USA because it is no longer going to be sold. For as good as it may be it didn't make the cut here. | ||
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Post# 616162 , Reply# 7 8/10/2012 at 19:00 (4,268 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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IIRC the Miele 48XX series are not built in Germany but one of their plants in Eastern Europe or elsewhere. For whatever reason our Miele dealer and others have reported potential buyers felt the German made 30XX series were of better build quality and usually went with those units.
Then there is the fact that Miele went up against Whirlpool and other long established washers that not only offer the same or better capacity, but cost less, much less. Most American households aren't thrilled with spending >1K USD for a washing machine, and quite honestly aside from the honeycomb drum and a few other gee-whiz type options the Miele didn't offer them much else. Then there is the fact that Miele still has a rather small distirbution/repair network. If one lives in the metro NYC,LA,SF or other upscale urban areas chances are Miele will get a service tech out within Regarding programming of modern Miele units: Apparently Miele's customer service research found that Amercians felt some of their appliances offered *too many* options and or were confusing to operate. Remember by and large Amercians are used to top loading washers with one or perhaps two choices to make besides cycle selection. The idea of having to chose from an vast menu put some off. Mind you on many Miele washers the options are still there, just buried deep in the programming. They are turned on or off depending how the machine is programmed at the factory for it's ultimate destination. | ||
| Post# 616514 , Reply# 8 8/12/2012 at 09:46 (4,267 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
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Post# 616819 , Reply# 11 8/13/2012 at 15:47 (4,266 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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When Miele Abandoned 220v Washing Machines
That was the end of "boil wash" temps or anything >160F for that matter.
Quite honestly with proper dosage of detergent (powder for hot or very hot water temps), and oxygen bleaching agents 160F is fine for most all laundry purposes. Commercial laundries by and large use that temp as a standard for hot water washes and again long as the other four proper variables for laundry are controlled things should be fine. Boil washes were historically used on the other side of the pond because the usual bleaching agent (sodium perborate) really doesn't get going until temps reach >140. Starting with the energy crisis of the 1970's European detergent makers began switching to activated oxygen bleaches (sodium perborate with TAED), which gave boil wash performance at lower temperatures (120F - 160F). IIRC only ASKO and some Bosch units are still strictly 220v power only, all other European units have moved to 120. | ||
| Post# 616987 , Reply# 13 8/14/2012 at 10:08 (4,265 days old) by Hunter (Colorado) | ||
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maybe i'm old fashioned... ...I like heat :) | ||
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