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A tale of 2 1980's Aussie Simpsons.
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Post# 620244   8/26/2012 at 00:13 (4,254 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        

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Hi guys

Some pics and vids of two recent additions: both 1980's Aussie Simpson's.

The first is a medium size 1984 Delta 10. The Delta 10 was introduced in 1979 in response to the Australian public wanting more medium sized automatics for those who didn't need or want a full size automatic.

So, Simpson used the same gearbox from the minimatic and large automatic to create the Delta 10....and it became very popular.

Cheers
Leon





Post# 620245 , Reply# 1   8/26/2012 at 00:15 (4,254 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
Money shot

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Money shot.

Post# 620247 , Reply# 2   8/26/2012 at 00:16 (4,254 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
Video.

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A vid of the Delta 10.



Post# 620248 , Reply# 3   8/26/2012 at 00:22 (4,254 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
2nd Simpson

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The 2nd 1980's Simpson i recently picked up is this full size 705.

This was the 2nd last series to use a proper metal gearbox. Simpson introduced the Stainless Steel Bowl in 1987 when this was first purchased. But by this time, they went to electric pumps and a neutral drain.

If anyone is interested in the specs: agitation is 57 OPM at 170 degree washing arc for normal.

Spin is 546rpm....personally i think it's a little anaemic.

For anyone wanting to see what 25 years of washing in cold water does to a washing machine....keep reading!!!!


Post# 620250 , Reply# 4   8/26/2012 at 00:24 (4,254 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
close up control panel

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pic 2

Post# 620251 , Reply# 5   8/26/2012 at 00:25 (4,254 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
Long shot

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Pic 3

Post# 620252 , Reply# 6   8/26/2012 at 00:27 (4,254 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
Money shot....

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Money shot

Post# 620253 , Reply# 7   8/26/2012 at 00:30 (4,254 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
Now for the ick stuff......

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When i first ran the machine without clothes i noticed a lot of floating crud in the water.

So...apart from taking out the lint filter which was disgusting in itself, i decided the go further and see what the outside of the inner bowl was like...

THIS...is what 25 years of washing machine in nothing but cold water produces.....it was disgusting!


Post# 620254 , Reply# 8   8/26/2012 at 00:33 (4,254 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
Another pic

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Another pic...

Post# 620256 , Reply# 9   8/26/2012 at 00:36 (4,254 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
The outer bowl

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The outer bowl before cleaning...

Post# 620257 , Reply# 10   8/26/2012 at 00:38 (4,254 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
After scrubbing.....

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After scrubbing for about 4 hours....this was the result of my efforts....

Firstly, the outer bowl...


Post# 620259 , Reply# 11   8/26/2012 at 00:39 (4,254 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
And the stainless steel bowl

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after cleaning.....

Post# 620260 , Reply# 12   8/26/2012 at 00:41 (4,254 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
One more....

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the best i could do.....

Post# 620261 , Reply# 13   8/26/2012 at 00:42 (4,254 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
And finally...a video....

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A vid of the machine washing a load of towels



Post# 620277 , Reply# 14   8/26/2012 at 03:19 (4,254 days old) by Streakers (Columbus Ohio)        
WOW Leon...

Two great iconic machines! Tell me though - I've never seen one of these with the Stainless Steel tub before... Were they not popular? I've always seen them with the speckled tubs - but never the SS...

Talk about some scary gunk on that tub...! And what's with all the scratches on the plastic outer tub? Has this machine had some work done in the past you think?

Cheers
Ste


Post# 620278 , Reply# 15   8/26/2012 at 03:40 (4,254 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
SS Tubs...

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Hey Steve

Simpson offered the SS tub as the TOL version and charged a higher price. Unlike you and I....unless you're swayed by stainless steel and the automatic suds save feature, most people went for the porcelain enamel version.

As for the scratches on the outer tub....a lot of that was from my paint scraper and steel wool trying to get off all the gunk!

Cheers
Leon


Post# 620281 , Reply# 16   8/26/2012 at 04:40 (4,254 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Simpson Delta

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Great finds Leon, love the SS tub, but oh what crud...was the Simpson with the plastic inner tubs the base model then!!


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Post# 620282 , Reply# 17   8/26/2012 at 04:45 (4,254 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
A Delta in the UK....

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Hey Mike

I didn't realise you had a Delta.....how did you come by it?

The Delta you have would be about 1987...and by this time, the Delta came with the plastic bowl as standard. The 'Genesis' model, which was one above the Delta, had a choice between stainless steel or plastic as well.

I actually have the brochure for your Delta, i will scan it and email it to you when i can.

Cheers
Leon


Post# 620287 , Reply# 18   8/26/2012 at 05:11 (4,254 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Simpson Delta UK

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Hi Leon, yes had this years, I answered an add in a local paper - "Top Loader For Sale" - phoned up and the man of the house answered..."Wifes out, dont know what it is, all I know is that it has a back & forward thing, panel on top with switches, am sure the name begins with an "S"....well I was convinced it was gonna be the Servis MK41, so I legged it over there asap and yes it did begin with an "S" but this one I wasnt reckoning on!!!...Lol

The family brought it back from Aus on a company move so filled the container with everything including the washer!! I find it very quiet, long oscillation and great results, love the mechanism, Tom Turbo says its like the Whirlpool World Washer mecanism.


Post# 620288 , Reply# 19   8/26/2012 at 05:17 (4,254 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
I'm sure.....

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there was some slight disappointment when you turned up and it wasn't a Servis Mark 41....i've been the same trying to find the Simpson 'Fabulous 89'.

I'm sure we'll both find our dream machines one day.

You defintely have a unique machine for the UK that's for sure....and yes....the WP world washer has similar characteristics.

Simpson replaced the full metal gearbox with the action on all its machines just like your Delta.

Leon


Post# 620289 , Reply# 20   8/26/2012 at 06:01 (4,254 days old) by twinniefan (Sydney Australia)        
Simpson Delta 10

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Hi Leon,
talk about a blast from the past! an Aunt of mine had that same Delta 10 and it lasted for about 20 years, although she always washed in cold water so I dare say her outer tub must have looked like the tub on your large 705.
I guess you would be too young to remember the advertising for it on television the voice over said in a smooth voice that "No matter how dirty your load is it all comes out in the wash with the brilliant new Delta 10 with it's 4-vane agitator action.",(as opposed to the large models with their 8-vane agitator action.).
It was a nice reasonably sized simple machine for someone who just wanted something basic and not too large.
I think from memory Simpson's slogan went like this, "You can relax when it's Simpson since 1853 truly relaible."
P.S.I noticed you had a box of Preservene Sno detergent, nice one.!


Post# 620577 , Reply# 21   8/27/2012 at 08:44 (4,253 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        
Delta 10

The original Delta 10 was a stretched Minimatic.
The little Minimatic washbowl (basket) was carried over, if you look at the pic inside the Delta 10 you can see the enamel bowl has a plastic riser on top which increases the capacity. The agitator was changed slightly, the fins on the agitator stick out slightly past the cone at the base. On the original Minimatic the agitator fins end level with the bottom cone, though later ones protrude out further, to improve wash action I'd imagine. The Delta 10 agitator is taller too, of course.

Later they produced a cheaper version with fewer options, called a Delta S.

they were never a great machine in my opinion, they were a machine for people who wanted simplicity and the promise of reliability more than a really good wash.

To remove the washbowl you use a big circular spanner with four lugs underneath, they match with four square indentations in the retaining ring. I used to have the special tool for the job. It was a very strong tool, designed that you beat it with a hammer to undo the lock ring. (they always gum up and corrode in place.) One day when out cruising the hard garbage collection on the roadside, I saw someone trying to remove the ring with a hammer and screwdriver. I offered to lend them the correct tool, and when I went past there later I dropped it off. they were going to leave the tool in their mailbox for me to collect later. They never left it out and I was never able to catch them at home, so I never got it back. Grrr!

I have a Delta 10 like that in my shed. It needs its bearings replaced, but I don't have the special tool......... so it has sat there for over 10 years so far...It is in the furthest corner, It would take several others being moved to get to it, so it willl sit a few years more...

Mike, just FYI, these early Deltas are a completely different machine to yours. They used a conventional reciprocating transmission, just like a scaled down version of an American top loader. They have a strong and heavy cast iron frame, which holds the gears. That mechanism is enclosed in a plastic dish, it looks like a tupperware canister. The "tupperware" is there to contain the oil.When the motor turns one way it agitates, the other way it screws the pulley up to release the clutch/brake, and it spins. It doesn't repeatedly reverse the motor to achieve agitation. The second generation delta like yours are variations of the Simpson Genesis, which was the new, cheaper to produce model with the reversing motor and simple, lightweight reduction gear instead of a full reciprocating transmission. The older ones were more American style in their mechanism, the later ones were based on Japanese machines which were flooding the Aussie market and undercutting Simpsons existing models.



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