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Does this look like a KDS-18? |
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Post# 621741   9/1/2012 at 10:08 (4,246 days old) by JenD (Michigan )   |   | |
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This is the only picture I have at the moment. |
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Post# 621745 , Reply# 1   9/1/2012 at 10:56 (4,246 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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It looks like one. |
Post# 621747 , Reply# 2   9/1/2012 at 11:14 (4,246 days old) by JenD (Michigan )   |   | |
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I am waiting for the hubby to get home with the truck so I can go pick this beauty up. They said it still worked when they took it out. I am paying $10 for it. |
Post# 621757 , Reply# 3   9/1/2012 at 12:24 (4,246 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))   |   | |
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Post# 621762 , Reply# 4   9/1/2012 at 12:34 (4,246 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 621767 , Reply# 5   9/1/2012 at 12:48 (4,246 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Often described as the best dishwasher Hobart/KA ever produced. Three wash levels with an extra spray from the ceiling too keep any pesky yiblets off the cup bottoms.
If you decide to install this one, don't jump to the conclusion that it doesn't work when you cycle it up for the first time. It will just sit and do nothing while it heats the water, then start when the water reaches the right temperature.
Don't be intimidated by all the buttons. Just like on your KDB21, you can select the "normal" cycle and be on your way, but for those tough or specialized jobs, you'll have other options.
A steal at $10. I hope the interior is decent. Give the 4-way Hydrosweep spray arm at the bottom a spin by hand and see what it does. If it doesn't spin smoothly, you may be looking at repairs sooner rather than later.
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Post# 621771 , Reply# 6   9/1/2012 at 13:00 (4,246 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Ralph, the 18 series didn't heat any water prior to the final sani-rinse just like the previous 15, 16, and 17 series. The 19 series Energy Saver IV was the firs KA to heat water several times during the cycle. Since I have to keep my eloectric water heater temp lower to save expense, an 18 with automatic water heating would be perfect--evgen more so if, as Tomturbomatic has stated NUMEROUIS times, if KA had kept the water circulating while it delayed to heat the water, it would have even better washability. Now to somewhat contradict what I've posted, the Soak & Scrub cycle did heat the water durinmg that cycle. Based upon the service manual or user guide, that cycle was about 40 minutes longerr than the 73 minute Normal cycle. The 18 seies finally lengthened the main wash phase severAL minutes more than the 9 minutes on the 16 and 17 series Superbas. Even as a teenasger I was concocting BobLoads that my mom's friends KAs didn't fully clean that my more modern dishwashers have managed to de beautifully. See what opportunities Hobart missed by not hiring me as a consultant back then. Just think of what even more of a K.A. dishwasher a KA would have been lol. |
Post# 621775 , Reply# 8   9/1/2012 at 13:05 (4,246 days old) by JenD (Michigan )   |   | |
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Post# 621776 , Reply# 9   9/1/2012 at 13:06 (4,246 days old) by JenD (Michigan )   |   | |
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Post# 621778 , Reply# 10   9/1/2012 at 13:10 (4,246 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 621779 , Reply# 11   9/1/2012 at 13:15 (4,246 days old) by JenD (Michigan )   |   | |
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Yeah it felt a little loose but we just got it in the house so I will be able to really look now. |
Post# 621780 , Reply# 12   9/1/2012 at 13:15 (4,246 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 621841 , Reply# 13   9/1/2012 at 17:20 (4,246 days old) by JenD (Michigan )   |   | |
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The motor shaft is sheared off. Oh well have to start a collection some how LOL |
Post# 621852 , Reply# 15   9/1/2012 at 18:20 (4,246 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Post# 621861 , Reply# 16   9/1/2012 at 18:36 (4,246 days old) by JenD (Michigan )   |   | |
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Ok let me go take a pic...maybe there is hope :-) |
Post# 621867 , Reply# 17   9/1/2012 at 18:43 (4,246 days old) by Jend (Michigan )   |   | |
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I hope you can see it. |
Post# 621868 , Reply# 18   9/1/2012 at 18:44 (4,246 days old) by Jend (Michigan )   |   | |
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When we took the arm off this was the mess |
Post# 621869 , Reply# 19   9/1/2012 at 18:58 (4,246 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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NOT the motor shaft, that's the upper support shaft.
It looks like the shaft was wearing into the Phillips head screw of the wash impeller. You may need to change that out too. I'm seeing upper support parts inside the wash arm, lol. Hopefully the wash arm is still good.
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Post# 621870 , Reply# 20   9/1/2012 at 19:12 (4,246 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Here's a place that claims to have one in stock. Keep looking, you may find one that's cheaper. CLICK HERE TO GO TO qsd-dan's LINK |
Post# 621875 , Reply# 21   9/1/2012 at 19:37 (4,246 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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Raise your right hand and solemnly swear:
"I will never discard a vintage KitchenAid dishwasher until it has been pronounced dead by the most knowledgeable people on AW.org. I will never question a vintage KitchenAid dishwasher's ability to rise from the dead. I will never accept the word of Internet appliance parts companies - or Sears Parts - that a vintage KitchenAid part is no longer available. I will never doubt the simplicity, longevity or reliability of any vintage KitchenAid dishwasher. I will never commit the infidelity of casting covetous glances at new dishwashers of any brand, be they swathed in stainless steel and capable of eighty-four cycle options, for they are the work of the Devil. I will honor my vintage KitchenAid dishwasher unto death and even after death, when I will offer its remaining good parts to the membership of AW.org. So help me Hobart." |
Post# 621876 , Reply# 22   9/1/2012 at 19:41 (4,246 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Let me clarify here since you are spliktting hair. First, KitchenAid dishwashers would have the the "lesser" heating element (I don't know the official name of it) run to maintain and slightly heat the water during water circulation (wasshing and rinsing) phases. This is NOT automatic water heating it's simply maintaining water temperature and slightly raising it. On Superbas up through the 18 series, only the SaniCycle had the final rinse whereby the machine shut off water circulatoin so all heating element maximum watts could be applied to raise the water tempererature to 18 degrees. BUT beginning with teh 198 Series, the machine paused (depending upon cycle selected) 2 to 3 times (if not more) to heat the water to a specified thermostatic hold target. With the 19 series through teh 23 series, one was able to lower their water heater to 120 degrees and still have the dishwasher heat the water to 140 degrees. Prior to the 19 series, to get very clean dishes and cookare taht was heavily soiled, incoming water ha t be a minimum of 140 degrees. Thus for the 19 seris and above, true automatic water heating. |
Post# 621885 , Reply# 24   9/1/2012 at 20:06 (4,246 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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Post# 621886 , Reply# 25   9/1/2012 at 20:12 (4,246 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Glad to help, but believe me, you're no dummy. Not only have you found our little side of crazy here on the internet, but you quickly nabbed a highly coveted dishwasher that some have spent years to get in their hands.
As far as KA knowledge goes, I'm a complete retard compared to Stevet.....aka The Hobart Master Extraordinaire. |
Post# 621887 , Reply# 26   9/1/2012 at 20:14 (4,246 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Post# 621888 , Reply# 27   9/1/2012 at 20:19 (4,246 days old) by JenD (Michigan )   |   | |
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LMAO I was thinking to myself while in the shower that I have achieved a record with fastest upgrade! |
Post# 621889 , Reply# 28   9/1/2012 at 20:30 (4,246 days old) by JenD (Michigan )   |   | |
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Happen to have a link to a parts manual or a diagram so I can understand the assembly on how mine is broken. I am such a visual learner :) |
Post# 621894 , Reply# 30   9/1/2012 at 20:58 (4,246 days old) by washer111 ()   |   | |
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Ok, thanks for clarifying that. Just for that, I think I'll go back and read my printed copy again :) (I printed it... So help me) |
Post# 621915 , Reply# 34   9/1/2012 at 21:51 (4,246 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Hey Steve, do you have the part#'s handy for upgraded commercial wash arm kit (wash arm/support/strainer)? I found a Hobart distributor 3.4 miles from my house. I'll have to pay them a visit about these parts as well as a 435102 seal and impeller kit. |
Post# 621917 , Reply# 36   9/1/2012 at 21:59 (4,246 days old) by stevet (West Melbourne, FL)   |   | |
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Bob, do you need a set of panels or just the inserts? I should have some in the attic yet. Let me know Steve |
Post# 621934 , Reply# 38   9/1/2012 at 23:48 (4,246 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 621939 , Reply# 40   9/2/2012 at 01:37 (4,245 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))   |   | |
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Post# 621941 , Reply# 41   9/2/2012 at 01:43 (4,245 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))   |   | |
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Post# 621946 , Reply# 42   9/2/2012 at 02:02 (4,245 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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