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GE has a new line of dishwashers
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Post# 622639   9/4/2012 at 22:39 (4,222 days old) by xpanam (Palm Springs California )        

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InfiniClean™ Wash System. Check out there web page it looks interesting.




Post# 622684 , Reply# 1   9/5/2012 at 05:17 (4,222 days old) by CleanteamofNY ((Monroe, New York)        

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Space killer. Basket in front of door....
And plastic, plastic, more plastic. I bet it only costs $175.00 to make and all else is profit!


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Post# 622685 , Reply# 2   9/5/2012 at 05:23 (4,222 days old) by CleanteamofNY ((Monroe, New York)        

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Post# 622688 , Reply# 3   9/5/2012 at 06:02 (4,222 days old) by verizonbear (Glen Burnie )        
interesting

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I am thinking they did market research, people hate seeing food stains on the interior of plastic dishwashers and you see those primarily on the door. At first I thought WTF but thinking about it , it makes sense

Post# 622709 , Reply# 4   9/5/2012 at 08:23 (4,222 days old) by super32 (Blackstone Massachusetts)        

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They will always try to be like us.

Post# 622711 , Reply# 5   9/5/2012 at 08:29 (4,222 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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How Lame!

A half stainless steel interior.....Just the door?

The next dishwasher I have will be all stainless inside. Plastic is fine, but to just make the door stainless seems odd.......perhaps they did research and that's what customers want?


Post# 622717 , Reply# 6   9/5/2012 at 09:02 (4,222 days old) by PassatDoc (Orange County, California)        

The point of a steel interior is not cosmetic or to hide stains. The steel tub allows moisture to evaporate off the dishes during final rinse and condense on the sides of tub, thus allowing non-heated drying rather than consuming more electricity with a heated drying cycle. Bosch DWs don't even have a choice between heated and non-heated drying: the final rinse is hot enough that the moisture will condense on the steel sides (as long as rinse agent is used).

Using a steel door only defeats the purpose of a steel interior and is a cosmetic change only.


Post# 622718 , Reply# 7   9/5/2012 at 09:04 (4,222 days old) by PassatDoc (Orange County, California)        

And for the $599 price, you could be in an entry level (non-Ascencia) all-steel interior Bosch.

Post# 622720 , Reply# 8   9/5/2012 at 09:18 (4,222 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Sounds like it washes one rack at a time.

Post# 622833 , Reply# 9   9/5/2012 at 18:28 (4,222 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Hmm.  They didn't publish an estimated time for each cycle.  NOT GOOD!!!  Scarey!!


Post# 622875 , Reply# 10   9/5/2012 at 21:35 (4,221 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)        

I've never had any desire for a stainless interior on my dishwasher.  I've always shopped for plastic and have zero issues with non-heated drying.  I do think the stainless door is stupid though.


Post# 622879 , Reply# 11   9/5/2012 at 22:03 (4,221 days old) by spookiness (Alexandria VA)        
never had a plastic problem either

No staining, and dries just fine.

Post# 622885 , Reply# 12   9/5/2012 at 23:00 (4,221 days old) by mfduffy ()        

I see several nice design features in this new model. The recessed upper arm is a great idea. The silverware in front makes it super-easy to drop in a knife or spoon. The arrangement of the calrod and filter looks smart -- and I like the addition of a removable filter. The controls look simple and intuitive. The seamless plastic tub seems like a sensible compromise.

What amazes me the most though is the quantity and detail of the pictures GE has posted on their website. I daresay they have gone out of their way for those who like to see some of the guts of the machine.

As an added bonus, it appears to be a brand-new design from their massive U.S. appliance manufacturing investment.


Post# 622890 , Reply# 13   9/6/2012 at 00:14 (4,221 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Filters, zone washing and thimblefuls of water are here to stay. This new line has many high-end features for an on-sale price point of $450-480 so the plastic tub is irrelevant. Water temp options and a heated dry option are actually a step up from low-end Bosch models, for less money. Provided it doesn't burst into flames (you never know) it should sell millions.

Post# 622916 , Reply# 14   9/6/2012 at 06:12 (4,221 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I like having a third rack dedicated for silverware and utensils (as on my LG) because it provides more space in the other racks for all the large pots/pans/bowls I wash. My 2nd choice is to have the flatware basket along the front, as with this new GE. It's so convenient to open the door a few inches and drop items into it. I always placed the silverware baskets along the front in the other dishwashers I've owned (Maytag; KitchenAid; Frigidaire; Whirlpool).

The LG is pictured, here. You'll notice they also include standard flatware baskets which can be placed in the bottom or upper rack. I've never used mine; in fact, I don't even remember where they are stashed!

Also checked out some other GE dishwashers at their website and they want $1800 for their TOL. It doesn't score well in Consumer Reports' tests. That's a big chunk o' change for a middling-performer. Yikes.


Post# 622923 , Reply# 15   9/6/2012 at 06:44 (4,221 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Why the hate?

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I don't understand why there is all this hatred for this machine. I think for the price point it is a step above other offerings on the market.

Malcolm


Post# 622930 , Reply# 16   9/6/2012 at 07:03 (4,221 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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There's just so much hate in the world, Malcolm; so.much.hate (LOL)

Post# 622935 , Reply# 17   9/6/2012 at 07:40 (4,221 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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The last time I saw some LG models at Home Depot, they didn't have the one with the flatware tray like yours, Eugene. I wonder if it's been discontinued or HD just didn't carry that model now, I've not kept up with LG's offerings other than what was in the store.

I know they've had their share of "birthing pains" with parts, service, etc. but even those I know have had trouble and service woes still love their LG dishwashers. You've had no trouble at all, right? It's impressive for sure, the space is well used for sure.

I couldn't find any data on the water usage of the new GE, unless I missed that in the tech. data & manual.

Skepticism thrives when it comes to anything new and from GE, they haven't had the best track record over the years for dishwashers - especially the middle and lower-end models.


Post# 622944 , Reply# 18   9/6/2012 at 07:59 (4,221 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains )        

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It looks kinda neat totally different wash system though. I wonder if it is a Chinese version like some of the others G.E. had but the wash system schematics is something i have never seen that I can recall..It does change from top to bottom but I think all dishwasher's

do that now just about.I don't know why they say it has a grinder in it,I don't see one here in the pump schematics, I would still love to

try one though..


Post# 622946 , Reply# 19   9/6/2012 at 08:04 (4,221 days old) by washer111 ()        
Do I Spy?

Is it just me, or does that sump look like the classic GE "Rubber Boot" sumps?

Some things never change


Post# 622947 , Reply# 20   9/6/2012 at 08:04 (4,221 days old) by tgm8000 (New York)        

I personally think GE has done a great job designing this new dishwasher. It is well designed with everything you would need in a dishwasher. The stainless door is excellent. Being able to put larger items in the top rack is much more convenient then bending down to the lower rack. The racks look very sturdy and have the ball tip tines. Ge has done a great job redesigning there french door refrigeraror and it has very high reviews. This dishwasher is the next step in there USA plants at producing a quality product. Give them a chance!

Post# 622959 , Reply# 21   9/6/2012 at 09:31 (4,221 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains )        

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The pump is totally new and does have a blade in it so they can say it has a grinder in it.The pump looks a lot more efficient than the

Fransis Turbine type they have used for over 40 years.I do though still have a soft spot for the old G.E. pot-scrubbers with the tower wash in it.We have a 1983 Magic chef at the farm that can wash anything the Jet engine sound it makes never bothered me nothing has ever went wrong with that one..


Post# 622962 , Reply# 22   9/6/2012 at 10:01 (4,221 days old) by bwoods ()        
GE DW videos

scroll down past the picture of the dishwasher, 3 short, but interesting videos

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Post# 622977 , Reply# 23   9/6/2012 at 12:24 (4,221 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
You all sound like Dolores Jane Umbridge...

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I guess we'll have to wait and see. Ever since I went into a Panasonic showroom in Tokyo about 15 years back, I've wanted a dishwasher with racks and baskets for tiny stuff like chopsticks and little bowls. I've seen dishwashers with SS and plastic together, so this isn't anything new. I like plastic; just don't want to wear it.

 

Pity we'll never see fancifully colored vinyl racks, speckled porcelain or Plastisol again. But for a daily driver, I just want clean dishes, as few puddles of water left as possible, some speed and some quiet if at all possible. So far, nothing has beaten my Maytag DWU8800 in that combination. And if I ever found an NOS Maytag WP-600 again (best dishwasher ever made IMHO), well...I swear I'd design and build an entire kitchen around it.


Post# 623007 , Reply# 24   9/6/2012 at 14:27 (4,221 days old) by mfduffy ()        

Some interesting info on GE's dishwasher manfacturing investment from Appliance Magazine:

The new dishwashers will be manufactured with more made-in-the-USA parts. About 85% of the parts in the new dishwashers will be made in the United States, and a growing number of them will be made in Appliance Park. The Park's plastic injection molding facility is now considered the largest in Kentucky and the fourth largest in the U.S. Dishwasher parts will include:

* In-house dishwasher racks: production will increase from 40% to 100% in Louisville's dishwasher factory.

* Production of stainless steel inner and outer doors will be moved from overseas to Louisville.

* 90 additional plastic custom parts/components will be made at Appliance Park for dishwashers.

* 10 more stamping processes will be added at Appliance Park to support dishwasher parts/components.

"When our investment is complete, we will be offering dishwashers with industry-first features in the highest quality products available," said Fanning. "From the innovation in these products to our U.S. employees who work every day to improve how and what we do, we have a lot to be proud of."


Post# 623050 , Reply# 25   9/6/2012 at 16:59 (4,221 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
That's Great -

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and only 50 minutes away from me : D

Post# 623055 , Reply# 26   9/6/2012 at 17:07 (4,221 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Forgot to mention

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There's nothing wrong with a plastic interior. My current WP is plastic and dishes dry fine - I don't even have to use the dry cycle; I just open the door as soon as it turns off and give the racks a shake and about an hour later everything is dry. It's the 599 price that I thought was kind of high (don't you think?) for a half stainless interior? I think my initial first thought was, " *sigh*, they are cutting corners" and that's why I responded that way. It does look like a very cool machine otherwise. I guess in my mind the stainless interiors add to the coolness factor for me.

I know there is a Maytag that I was looking at that had all stainless interior and quite a few features for 150 less than that.


Post# 623056 , Reply# 27   9/6/2012 at 17:08 (4,221 days old) by washer111 ()        
Interesting Videos

I had a look at those videos bwoods mentioned. They are very interesting. The last one (Modern Style) shows the auto-sense cycle is approximately 97minutes in length (but I think I saw it was only using one "zone" for washing).

Are there any water usage or cycle time statistics for this model?


Post# 623133 , Reply# 28   9/7/2012 at 00:38 (4,220 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Interesting shot of the pump intake-looks like a blender blade and a vacuum cleaner fan!some leaf blower vacuums have a similar arrangement-a blade in front of the fan.Is the GE pump motor a high speed universal type or high frequency AC type to give very high speed for the blade and impeller to be effective.

Post# 623422 , Reply# 29   9/8/2012 at 12:28 (4,219 days old) by imperial70 (MA USA)        
All I can say

is I'm glad I waited before purchasing a new machine. :-)

 

 


Post# 623586 , Reply# 30   9/9/2012 at 10:42 (4,218 days old) by bleacho ()        
i like this dishwasher

looks pretty good to me! i had two bosch dishwashers in the past 7 years and realized Bosch dosent work out well for me. i need a water booster to heat the water for the main cycle. living in a condo,top floor, the water that goes in is just not hot enough to wash hot enough... have a whirlpool gold now, and seems to wash fine, but i dont like the integrated controls, so its hard to tell where the cycle is.. what i would like is an old kitchen aid when made by hobart. i dont understand why these strong work horses arent put back on the market. the consumers will pay higher prices for a strong maching like these. were certainly forced to pay large dollars for the pretty cosmetics, but no one has a dishwasher that is as durable and efficient as these old kitchen aid mechanics... any thoughts as to what dishwasher is made the old way???? please let me know..

Post# 623590 , Reply# 31   9/9/2012 at 10:59 (4,218 days old) by rinso (Meridian Idaho)        

Hopefully, this new design will stop the GE Dishwasher senseless activity of burning down your house while getting your dishes fully sanitized.

Post# 623724 , Reply# 32   9/9/2012 at 19:42 (4,218 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Finally had a chance to watch the three videos provided in the link, above. It looks like a cool design, with flatware baskets on the front of each rack, encouraging use of the 1/2 load option. Still, I'd prefer an all-stainless interior. Wonder if GE is using this new wash system in their upper echelon machines?

Post# 623817 , Reply# 33   9/10/2012 at 06:08 (4,217 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Full Stainless

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I wouldn't be surprised if a full stainless model is in the works.

Malcolm


Post# 623947 , Reply# 34   9/10/2012 at 16:01 (4,217 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Certainly encouraging use of the 1/2 load option. Bosch had a dishwasher just like that in the 90s called (well, translated) the Top Rack Washer. Top and bottom rack were identical and one could have any cycle wash both baskets or just the upper one. Relatives of mine had one and it was extremely flexible: you could practically place anything anywhere. Both racks held two rows of full-sized plates or pots, glasses...

Post# 623972 , Reply# 35   9/10/2012 at 17:46 (4,217 days old) by spookiness (Alexandria VA)        
Noise?

I was wondering, besides the other perceived largely vanity reasons for having a steel door-only; would having a steel door be a cost effective method of reducing sound transmission vs. a all-plastic tub/door setup? Just curious.

Post# 624046 , Reply# 36   9/10/2012 at 21:06 (4,216 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains )        

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G.E. will be converting all there dishwasher's to this design instead of having so many different types..The tower ones will be first to go..G.E. already has these new ones priced the same with more features than the dishwasher's Abt has this new one staring at $325 bucks and you get 3 full wash arms.I read somewhere that they will be offering alot fewer models because of the change of manufacturing to here will be saving them money in the long run by using just this wash system minus the very top arm on the lowest cost ones..So instead of about 60 models with 3 different types of wash systems, they will have about 20 at the most.. I can't wait to get one LOL...


Post# 624055 , Reply# 37   9/10/2012 at 21:35 (4,216 days old) by tgm8000 (New York)        

They are going to have a stainless tub also , probably classified as a profile model. I will definetly buy one when they come out !

Post# 624068 , Reply# 38   9/10/2012 at 23:03 (4,216 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
I can see

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the 1/2 load being REALLY convenient!

I guess if there is a brunch of gross food dried on the bottom of the dishwasher that the interior of the dishwasher would be cleaned once it's over, even if only the top has been washed?


Post# 624075 , Reply# 39   9/10/2012 at 23:54 (4,216 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Mark if that were the case and the load was heavily soiled, I'd put everything in the bottom rack and use the 1/2 load for bottom rack. 



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