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Post# 622669   9/5/2012 at 04:33 (4,242 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        

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This time its a Jet Stream 505

Lets kick off with a brochure - courtsey 74Simon.

The 505 is the floorstanding model, apparently in front of the sink. My mother had the 303 model which is shown on the counter top.

I was surprised how ambivalent I was about this machine as I usually have a keen interest in machines from my past, I would have thought I would be falling over myself to get to it, but no, not on this occasion. Could it be that some common sense has kicked in? No, couldn't be that ......

Anyway, or own MatchboxPaul was interested (reading back on other threads its a machine from his past too) so he bought it, but as I was far closer to it, I am temporary custodian. The house it came from was built around 1975 and this dishwasher was propbaly original to it.






Post# 622670 , Reply# 1   9/5/2012 at 04:36 (4,242 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
And here it is, front view

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Twist to lock handle.



Post# 622671 , Reply# 2   9/5/2012 at 04:40 (4,242 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Programmes up close

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Apologies, the picture was taken before the machine was cleaned.

Earlier machines has a simple "press to start" button and a single programme but this has a convetional rotary timer which gives more programme flexability.



Post# 622672 , Reply# 3   9/5/2012 at 04:43 (4,242 days old) by retromania (Anderson, South Carolina)        
Neat

I have always been intrigued by those countertop dishwashers.

Post# 622674 , Reply# 4   9/5/2012 at 04:45 (4,242 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Money shot

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The inside of the machine - looking just the same as all the other Colston Dishwashers that have been posted. It holds six standard place settings - about half the capacity of a "normal" dishwasher.

It was a pleasure to open the door and find it fresh smelling and the door seals nice and supple - it seems like it has been used until very recently


Post# 622676 , Reply# 5   9/5/2012 at 04:49 (4,242 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Money shot 2

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No racks this time.

Nice and clean, not a sign of cobwebs or bugs anywhere. It uses the single rotating spray to wash the dishes - memory says that it did them reasonably well - but only cups, plates etc. pans, casseroles and other dishes were almost out of the question


Post# 622677 , Reply# 6   9/5/2012 at 04:51 (4,242 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
A look into the past

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Thanks to ChesterMike for the picture of this earlier model.



Post# 622681 , Reply# 7   9/5/2012 at 05:10 (4,242 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
We return to our scheduled programme

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The reason for the picture above was to indicate the clear heritage of this machine - the design has been around from 1960 or so, in one form or another - the Jetstream 101/303/505 were the last iterations of the design production of which would have ended in 1976 or so, I believe my mother's to have been one of the last of these machines.

And its clear with the back off that they just took the old design and wrapped a fancier box around it. I should add that this is amost exactly how things were when I took the back off the machine - not bad for a machine thats 37/38 years old.

In the other machines the timer was underneath the was tub in front of the motor and main wash pump, there would have been one hell of a lot going on in that small space. This machine does have a larger pump to drain the water as it has to go from floor to sink level, the counter top models were essentially gravity drain although they too had a small pump.

When I first opened up the machine I filled it with the customary couple of kettle fulls of hot water in the wash tub to "re-hydrate" the seals and ensure all was watertight. It was ......

But when I connected it to the water supply and switched on the water just gushed out the back of it - just as well it was outside .....

i said above "almost" as, for some reason, someone had removed the hose running from the inlet valve to the tub filler - thats the hose that emerges from the top of the valve and snakes down to the fill point on the bottom RH side of the picture. Thankfully even I coudl spot the problem and it was soon fixed


Post# 622683 , Reply# 8   9/5/2012 at 05:16 (4,242 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
In action

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close up and personal

the machine seems to work fine, I have yet to do a full cycle in it but things look good as everything seems to work as it should. There seems to be a very slight leak out of the wash pump (as evidenced by the rust) but it is a VERY slight leak and indeed it seems to stop after a short while.


Post# 622687 , Reply# 9   9/5/2012 at 05:49 (4,242 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
And finally

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Dont forget the service.

One surprise about this machine was how easy to move it was on its castors. Admittedly it is comparitavly light weight but it struck me that it may well haev been concieved partly as a portable model as well as one for building under a counter top.

Why? Well first it has a counter top (actually the 303 did as well) and secondly because it IS so easy to move - easier in fact than a hoover single tub washer. Portable machines have never caught on in this country the way they did in USA and Canada - partly because we dont have the brilliant connection arrangement used there and partly because our kitchens tend to be so small that there is not the room to leave them sitting in front of the sink. Admittedly that did not stop our love of twin tubs for 15 years (actually broadly in line with the life of this design) but coping with the family wash was a different matter to doing teh dishes - I personally think it was not until towards teh end of the 1990s that diswashers moved out of the perception of luxury item in the UK.

Whatever, its great to see that this particular machine has lasted so well, and a great deal better than my mothers which was scrapped after about 10 years. Overall its in good condition (particularly the sides and back) but I doubt it was moved much during its lifetime, which was probably all to the good

Al


Post# 622984 , Reply# 10   9/6/2012 at 13:25 (4,241 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain)        
Well done

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Hi

I was watching this one and even made an offer to the seller but he refused I hoped it may come down some more and I'd be tempted. Not that it was expensive just by the time I added a courier it may have been a bit more than I'd gamble as I've now 4 vintage dishwashers none of which work!

I also thought that if this one did work would I want to give up my modern beko as it is brilliant for the money and holds loads, I tend to find plates alone are the fewer things I put in a dishwasher, but more bowls pans grill pans glasses etc, and in a colston they'd all have to cram in the top rack if it were for everyday use. But it's great to see it go to a good home!

I've had no luck finding anyone who has a replacement door seal for mine, then I coud use it as table top model.

Apart from the timer with wash cycles and the drain pump and posh cabinet it's very similar to mine , the only other differences I can spot are, mine has a mechanical fill valve and empty valve drive by cables from the timer, and the hot air inlet is higher which was needed as often suds overflowed in to motor, I may be wrong Al but the plastic tube on the left as we look at rear may turn around to sit alongside the main motor and air whisked up by the fan is blown into cabinet to supposedly dry the dishes, hmm a nice warm blast of oily motor smell!

I've attached the link I posted of mine as Mike kindly uploaded the instruction manual for this model which may be of use


Cheers Richard


CLICK HERE TO GO TO ricky5050's LINK


Post# 622996 , Reply# 11   9/6/2012 at 14:05 (4,241 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Thanks to Al for doing the collecting thing and for providing a residence for the machine, until it migrates northwards (havent the foggiest when that will be, but if it gets in the way do let me know!).

Am rather pleased that the machine looks to be in sound condition, with only a few gremlins in the works - happy tinkering Al!
Have you run it through a full cycle yet?

Dont know what I thought it would be like inside, but am surprised that it is literally a TJ/101 but in a bigger cabinet.
Looking at the inside photos of the 505 with the photos on your TJ thread Ricky, makes for a very useful comparison.

Richard in Bristol has a 101, so we just need to find a 303 for you Al and then a 747 and an 808!
Yep - 808! Was rifling through some listings on google and saw listed this model number, which I never knew of before. Anyone know about it?

Paul
p.s a lovely advert below, courtesy of Mike Kings archive - December 1973


Post# 622999 , Reply# 12   9/6/2012 at 14:06 (4,241 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Closer up of the 101 Jetstream - my grandma had one of these, on the official 4 wheeled trolley provided by Colston...

Post# 623000 , Reply# 13   9/6/2012 at 14:07 (4,241 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

an earlier TJ model, showing the trolley...

Post# 623001 , Reply# 14   9/6/2012 at 14:08 (4,241 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

the 303 Jetstream...

Post# 623002 , Reply# 15   9/6/2012 at 14:08 (4,241 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

the 505 Jetstream...

Post# 623003 , Reply# 16   9/6/2012 at 14:09 (4,241 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and the 747...

Post# 623037 , Reply# 17   9/6/2012 at 16:17 (4,241 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Colston

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Great find there boys, looks in fine nic, hadnt realised they where mainly the same size, lots of belts pumps and cork seals, the one on the trolley almost looks like it could be straight out the hospital lab!!

the silver and blue hue trims compliment very well!!


Post# 623041 , Reply# 18   9/6/2012 at 16:28 (4,241 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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Love those counter top dw's .  I 'd have been all over that if we'd had one, playing with it incessantly. 


Post# 623048 , Reply# 19   9/6/2012 at 16:56 (4,241 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
303

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As we are posting pictures, here is my mothers - summer 1976

Post# 623057 , Reply# 20   9/6/2012 at 17:16 (4,241 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Jetstream

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Paul

Always glad to help out and very glad to have rescued a machine in apparently such good condition. I wont be able to do anything this weekend but will try to do a bob load next weekend.

Richard
Thank you for the tip about the vent, I can see how it is on yours, which show some interesting evolution of this model. I always thought the metal bit on the bottom was for heated drying - any idea what that is for?

Although interesting this machine is not a practical option for you nor form many people for exactly the reason you state. Now if a Kenwood was to crop up that woudl be a different matter! By the way, if anything crops up down here in which you are interested, please do not hesitate to give me a shout as it might be possible to arrange collection and temporary storage - I often gnash my teeth over items which are in the north, so pleased to help out whne the boot is on the other foot

Al


Post# 623142 , Reply# 21   9/7/2012 at 02:26 (4,240 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain)        
Thanks

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Thanks Al

I'm not sure which metal bit you mean? But yes thank you for the offer and sure likewise if there is anything up here you'd like I can collect and hold it etc.

Yes a kenwood, I think they have an impellor too but a modern plastic one as opposed to the Bakelite one, I ve never seen one other than in adverts.

Cheers Richard


Post# 623145 , Reply# 22   9/7/2012 at 02:56 (4,240 days old) by MikeKLondon (London)        
Ricky5050's Kitchen

I have always been in love with this kitchen its one of the best bits of vintage I have ever seen it has most of my wish list in one room

Post# 623151 , Reply# 23   9/7/2012 at 04:42 (4,240 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Metal bit

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Richard

This did not get included in my pictures, but in reply 3 of your thread its the device at about "1 o'clock" by the sump filter.

Is that the rinse aid reservoir in the floor of your Colston too?

I think the Kenwood I show above must have used convertional spray arms rather than impellor but I have never seen inside one to know. It is a lasting regret to me that I did know someone who had one of these long before my collecting days and I did not take a closer look at it - now I would buy him a new one just to get my hands on such a Kenwood

Al


Post# 623240 , Reply# 24   9/7/2012 at 15:47 (4,240 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain)        
I see !

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Hi Al

If I remember correctly this is an over flow pipe straight down to the drain, as you know on these they don't really have a pump, a cable operated mechanical valve open and closes determined by the timer , this over rides this and as they were designed for the drain hose to be below the machine ie on a trolley or draining board I suppose it's a safety feature .

There quite quiet machines with a nice washing sound , mine had the added mechanical whirr of the timer which operated the cables, and also the push on button rotates to act as a cycle progress indicator .
Thanks Mike, if your ever near Durham let me know I'll try my best to show you it !


Cheers Richard


Post# 623246 , Reply# 25   9/7/2012 at 16:06 (4,240 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain)        
Oops

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Yes Al

In the floor of mine is a large plastic bottle with a screw top, a pipe from the pressure sensor is connected to it so every time water enters the machine air pressure pushes rinse aid out of the small rubber slit in the "bottle top" I'm assuming even in wash and all rinse cycles? Mine had rinse aid in but it was very smelly !

Re the kenwood I've no idea but because of the rota surge advert and I managed to buy a nylon plastic impellor ( more flat and circular a bit like a flymo fan) from our friend in Lancashire as was advertised as a kenwood one I hoped to modify it for my dishmaster but I assumed it was off this model . Mind you if it were I think upper rack cleaning may be poor especially the cramped bowls at the back left as shown in advert !

I bet one pops up on eBay ha ha

Richard


Post# 697861 , Reply# 26   8/21/2013 at 10:49 (3,892 days old) by rogey ()        
re colston 808

hi, matchbox paul asked if anyone knew the 808, it was colstons most effective dishwasher ever in my opinion, though numbers were few because of the takeover by ariston in 1979. the machine was made by an italian company called zerowatt as was the earlier 747. i beleive the company is still in existence but dont know any current models. when ariston took over they introduced their own lb 612 as a next generation machine. the early picture of the table top colston is i beleive an early mark four with a belt driven turbo jet accelerator( that's the spinning tube that sprays the water into the machine).later models had a free spinning tja which was powered solely by the pressure of the water exiting the directionalised holes in the tja

Post# 698058 , Reply# 27   8/22/2013 at 06:29 (3,891 days old) by retromania (Anderson, South Carolina)        
!!!!!!!!!!!!

I LOVE those countertop models!!!

Post# 698062 , Reply# 28   8/22/2013 at 06:51 (3,891 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Your Mum's Kitchen:

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"....here is my mothers - summer 1976...."

Finally - a kitchen as, erm, compact as mine!


Post# 698064 , Reply# 29   8/22/2013 at 07:19 (3,891 days old) by Hoover1100 (U.K.)        
Compact Kitchen

That's reasonably large by British standards I would say, many are small enough that you can touch both sides at the same time! Certainly most I've been in have not had space to get a table and chairs in!

Matt



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