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Post# 625374   9/16/2012 at 10:17 (4,232 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Houston.  TOL FAV9800 washer with touch screen and water heating.  Rare set, but price probably is high even so.

Could be the referenced "sensor" the washer needs is the tub displacement (OOB) sensor.  I have a spare (installed, found it wasn't the problem, removed immediately), paid $57.94, will sell for $50 + shipping.


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Post# 625403 , Reply# 1   9/16/2012 at 13:08 (4,232 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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This is Modern Washer History, lots of you younger guys and gals are going to wish you had these some day, the asking price is not bad considering that these cost between $2400.00 and $2800.00 dollars less than ten years ago and it sounds like the seller wants get rid of them, so they could be an even better deal.


Post# 625430 , Reply# 2   9/16/2012 at 14:43 (4,232 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I'm a fan. They are on my short list.

Post# 625467 , Reply# 3   9/16/2012 at 16:36 (4,232 days old) by donprohel (I live in Munich - Germany, but I am Italian)        
Not sure I understand...

...but this does not look right:

- "dryer by its self 150"
- "washer by its self 100"
- "Washer and Dryer set - $350"

Arithmetic?


Post# 625476 , Reply# 4   9/16/2012 at 17:58 (4,232 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Ha!  I didn't notice that pricing discrepancy.

Running a small load in mine right now.


Post# 625498 , Reply# 5   9/16/2012 at 19:47 (4,232 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Same Unit?

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Post# 625501 , Reply# 6   9/16/2012 at 20:05 (4,232 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I Spoke to the seller of this Neptune on ebay months ago. I made him an offer of $50, he told me no. Said the parts were worth more than that. I said good luck and that perhaps if it were working, he could command that price. But no one was going to pay $350 for a science experiment. I see it's still up there.

Post# 625536 , Reply# 7   9/16/2012 at 22:06 (4,232 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
A little heads up for you all...

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Whirlpool has decided it would be fun to NLA most of the parts for the drying cabinet. Yes, these are not old at all. Yes, they cost a freaking arm and a leg. Yes, people had to frequently modify their laundry rooms to make it fit. All that means squat. The control boards are hard to get if at all and the element for the electric lower dryer is long NLA. There are aftermarket restrings (element only) which sometimes may fit but if you've broken any of the ceramic mounts, you're toast. The gas model is a little more forgiving as the coils and igniter are generic but the heating element/steamer tray assy that both models use for the upper cabinet is also gone.

Very annoying to say the least as the owners are, understandably, unhappy being told that their once expensive machines are now useless. Calls to the Whirlpool 1-800 line are also not very helpful. Pity. I almost got one myself!

Also, another heads up for all you MAH5500/6500 owners! The main control boards appear to be on a national back order with no release date. My supplier has called and seems to be getting the impression that there might be a vendor issue (as in the current vendor isn't making them anymore and another vendor is being sought...) and in the past when this has happened, Whirlpool will most likely just NLA the part and be done with it. As they were told, the release date could be in a few weeks, months, years or never... Time to locate a spare or two for all you happy owners!

RCD


Post# 625538 , Reply# 8   9/16/2012 at 22:11 (4,232 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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As far as the Neptune T/L is concerned, the most common cause of a continuous out of balance condition is usually a failing clutch. This is easy to diagnose and repair. I haven't seen many of the sensors fail.

RCD


Post# 625576 , Reply# 9   9/17/2012 at 05:15 (4,232 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I'd forgotten all about the season or two that drying cabinets were the "new thing". Although their commercial existence was brief (didn't Whirlpool make one, too?) their collectibility rating is through-the-roof; especially when paired with the two-spinning-discs washer. Rare + rare = Awesome!

Post# 625583 , Reply# 10   9/17/2012 at 05:55 (4,232 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

I do not understand why people just cannot bite the bullet and use a front load machine instead of trying to work against gravity with these HE toploaders. You need to use the same HE detergents with both. If the washers are mounted on a pedestal, all but the most morbidly obese can bend to retrieve items from an FL washer or so it would seem and the FLs are generally easier on textiles.

Post# 625621 , Reply# 11   9/17/2012 at 09:42 (4,231 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Man, that is one rare washer. If I remember correctly, it spins at a higher rate than the push board machines - 1000 RPM?

If I found one locally, I'd be hard pressed to not drag it home.

Andy - thanks for the heads up on late model Maytag parts. I'm not surprised but it is a huge PITA for those folks who shelled out some HUGE coin for the DC's. I saw an electric one a few months ago behind the local appliance store. I wonder if they weren't able to get parts for it either.

Ben


Post# 625715 , Reply# 12   9/17/2012 at 18:37 (4,231 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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The worst thing about these was they were quite slow as regular dryers because of the low wattage heating element, hold out for a gas one, but even these only had an 18,000 BTU burner, so they were no faster that an old MT HOH dryer.


Post# 625720 , Reply# 13   9/17/2012 at 18:57 (4,231 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
"HE" Top Loaders

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Why? Because Americans by a good majority still prefer top loading washing machines. It is merely a case of appliance makers trying to give the people what they want whilst not ticking off the federal government.

A much more sane and logical solution would be moving to the popular design of top loading "H-Axis" washing machines commonly found in commercial laundries and on smaller scale from offerings such as Miele and other European appliance manufacturers. However there are two problems that come up at once.

Even the largest (IIRC 5-6 kilos) European models of top loading H-Axis washers would be considered too "small" capacity for many Americans. The other problem is once you start going into the realm of capacity expected for "top loading" washing machines on these shores (15-18 lbs) design problems creep up. To house a tub with such capacity it's likely the cabinet would have to be larger and or longer than the current standard for American washing machines. This could mean the unit wouldn't sell in great numbers.

Staber offers a "top loading H-Axis" washer but is frequently dinged by Consumer Reports and others regarding it's capacity. Whirlpool has held patent designs for years now on a similar machine but so far that is as far as they've gone.


Post# 625722 , Reply# 14   9/17/2012 at 19:07 (4,231 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Just To Be Clear - Everything Old Is New Again

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Drying cabinets in one form or another have been around since the turn of the last century. Sold for commercial and domestic laundry use (Martha Stewart's former Ford Estate has them, as does the Vanderbilt mansion in North Carolina), they were basically racks on rollers that rested in a heated cabinet.

These dryers were used for hanging laundry either when outdoor weather wouldn't permit and or items that couldn't go into "tumble dryers" (yes they had those in commercial laundries since around 1920's or so),or simply to speed laundry day. IIRC in parts of the UK/EU drying cabinets styled like those offered by Maytag, Asko, etc... were modern versions of airing cupboards that one not only could hang wet laundry to dry but used to dry out damp boots and or outer garments. For places where the climate is damp more or less a great part of the year this proved a blessing.

IIRC there were small versions of such cabinets sold in the UK by Servis (?) and others. These looked rather like top loading dishwashers with a heating element at bottom and a series of removable racks that kept items suspended above the heat source.


Post# 625809 , Reply# 15   9/18/2012 at 00:57 (4,231 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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There is always the Staber H-Axis Top-loader.

Post# 625810 , Reply# 16   9/18/2012 at 00:57 (4,231 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 625812 , Reply# 17   9/18/2012 at 00:59 (4,231 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 625813 , Reply# 18   9/18/2012 at 01:03 (4,231 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 625815 , Reply# 19   9/18/2012 at 01:10 (4,231 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 626450 , Reply# 20   9/20/2012 at 22:09 (4,228 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Last month I cam across a Neptune TL LCD touch-screen console I was going to stash away should my Neptune dryer's fail. -or- If I came across a Neptune TL with a digi console, I'd try and swap it out.
Only problem I can see is that the lower end model might not have a heater, so some cycles may not work as intended.
I knew one day science would be fun!


Post# 626451 , Reply# 21   9/20/2012 at 22:11 (4,228 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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.as far as the lower dryer temps of the cabinet are concerned, it really wouldn't put me off as I dry at lower temps anyway.

Post# 626452 , Reply# 22   9/20/2012 at 22:12 (4,228 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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.the matching TL dryer is also sexy. they make a handsome pair.

Post# 626455 , Reply# 23   9/20/2012 at 22:16 (4,228 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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.and as Launderess said, "Everything Old Is New Again", americans have already had a crack at top loading h-axis washers. I present the Launderall!

Post# 626456 , Reply# 24   9/20/2012 at 22:20 (4,228 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 627146 , Reply# 25   9/23/2012 at 19:20 (4,225 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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Hi Alex I did not suggest that these MT DC dryers ran at lower temperatures but rather they are slow dryers do to the much lower wattage heater element, but they eventually do get just as hot as any other dryer.


Post# 627194 , Reply# 26   9/23/2012 at 22:19 (4,225 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Well, their design has got my curiosity going.

Post# 627211 , Reply# 27   9/23/2012 at 23:39 (4,225 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Does anyone here have a Launderall? I really like the concept.

Staber washers seem to have problems with reliability and horrible customer service.
One of our members here had one and the thing didn't take long to fall apart and customer service didn't want to help at all with it.


Post# 627247 , Reply# 28   9/24/2012 at 07:48 (4,225 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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Alex you should diffidently to get one if you get the chance, I got my hands on a new gas model for my laundry room here at home. I was just suggesting that the lower dryer part is not the fastest or most reliable dryer for someones only dryer if they are doing 10 or more heavy loads a week. Unfortunately MT designed and built this dryer using the cheap 27" Norge dryer as the starting point for this otherwise great idea. Maytag had pretty much stopped trying to build and sell the best quality appliances by the time these machines appeared.

 

Maytag should have instead have been more aggressive in fixing the problems of the Neptune FL washers that were starting to sink their reputation for reliability. The Neptune FL washer was a well though out and and built appliance designed by MT  and like every MT appliance since their first automatic washer there were problems at first and in the past MT always kept improving and redesigning until they got it right. But in this day in age consumers are not so patent, today we expect to buy a new appliance and have it work for a long time without having to call for service. And if we do have have early problems we expect the manufacturer to fix items at little or no cost.

 

On the Neptune FL washers MT should have immediately have offered free parts for the entire washer for at least 10 years and maybe a low cost service fee to cover labor to perform the needed repairs. MT did make a lot of improvements in the MTNTs but they offered little help to most consumers on such a highly promoted product.


Post# 635573 , Reply# 29   10/31/2012 at 22:59 (4,187 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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One thing I like is the ability for the drying cabinet to use dryer sheets to freshen/scent the clothes without having to touch them.

Do any other modern dryers do this?  I seem to recall this feature being available back in the day of vintage laundry appliances. 


Post# 635575 , Reply# 30   10/31/2012 at 23:04 (4,187 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I also found that beside Whirlpool having a drying cabinet, Staber and Asko have one as well. Alhough they look very similar, so maybe they re sharing the design.

 

The Asko model shown.


Post# 635576 , Reply# 31   10/31/2012 at 23:04 (4,187 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Staber Drying cabinet


Post# 635578 , Reply# 32   10/31/2012 at 23:06 (4,187 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 635579 , Reply# 33   10/31/2012 at 23:08 (4,187 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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