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Post# 626542 9/21/2012 at 11:04 (4,228 days old) by countryford  (Austin, MN) |
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I just picked this up yesterday. I was going to Tucson to visit family and had seen this on craigslist. The woman had got it from her father when he recently passed away and didn't want it. She had been asking a high price for it, but since the post was about a month old, I offered her quite a bit less and she accepted. So when I went down to Tucson, I met her and picked it up. At first I wasn't sure what brand it was, until I seen on the front it said Stromberg Carlson. I had never seen a SC like this before. It has the manuals for it including a dealer brochere that shows the different models you could get. All of this paperwork is in Spanish. Also all the writing on the front and back of the TV is in Spanish as well. I think this set was made and sold in Mexico. I don't know a whole lot about SC except that they started off making phones and eventually started making radios and tv sets. I thought they had died off sometime in the 50's. I'm assuming this tv is anywhere from about 58 to 62. I'm just guessing at that since I don't know. Also this set is long it is 76 inches long. Its all tube tv and radio, and the radio also has shortwave. It needs a little work the top of the tv that lifts up to show the record player, the wood on it is seperating. It needs some work,but is still a nice piece.
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Post# 626543 , Reply# 1 9/21/2012 at 11:05 (4,228 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN) |
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Post# 626544 , Reply# 2 9/21/2012 at 11:08 (4,228 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN) |
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Post# 626545 , Reply# 3 9/21/2012 at 11:09 (4,228 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN) |
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Post# 626546 , Reply# 4 9/21/2012 at 11:12 (4,228 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN) |
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The top of the unit. As I said it is 6foot 4 inches long. HUGE!!! I just got it unloaded out of the van today. I took off the back and the thing is caked in dust. Looks like it hasn't been turned on since Moses was alive. Anyways I have not yet tested it, and am going to wait until I blow the dust out of it.
Also you can notice it is in my laundry room as there is the Bendix on the end and the Lady K set and the Frigidaire behind it. 
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Post# 626548 , Reply# 5 9/21/2012 at 11:22 (4,228 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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Post# 626550 , Reply# 6 9/21/2012 at 11:32 (4,228 days old) by kevin313 (Detroit, Michigan) |
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That's a very interesting piece. It may have been made in Mexico, or for the Mexican market. I'm not sure when S-C stopped making televisions and radios. In the era that this set was made, S-C was owned by General Dynamics, which had some huge military contracts.
The S-C name was also sold to a company in South America which used it (and might still be using it) for TV's, radios, DVD players, etc. I don't know when that started, but there is a chance that your set could also be South American made. Maybe you will find some information inside the console somewhere as to where it was built. Regardless, it sure is over the top with it's knobs, buttons, trim, etc. Very space age! I'm sure it cost quite a bit of money in its day. Those early Garrard record changers are usually pretty good. | ||
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Post# 626554 , Reply# 8 9/21/2012 at 11:55 (4,228 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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"Sonido-Estereofonico" | ||
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Post# 626558 , Reply# 9 9/21/2012 at 12:16 (4,228 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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Jeff.. yeah. | ||
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Post# 626597 , Reply# 10 9/21/2012 at 15:44 (4,228 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN) |
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| Post# 626598 , Reply# 11 9/21/2012 at 15:53 (4,228 days old) by Blackstone (Springfield, Massachusetts) | ||
Reposting this photograph would be appropriate: | ||
| Post# 626634 , Reply# 12 9/21/2012 at 17:49 (4,228 days old) by thor (Buenos Aires) | ||
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Tanslation Hi Justin, congratulations on your new stereo console, it looks impressive! How big are the larger speakers? If you want I could translate from Spanish into English any part of the console's manual, or the control panel. I won't be home next week but after that I'll have plenty of time. Emilio | ||
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Post# 626641 , Reply# 13 9/21/2012 at 18:20 (4,228 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN) |
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| Post# 626643 , Reply# 14 9/21/2012 at 18:52 (4,228 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas) | ||
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German radio manufacturers often OEM'ed a lot of their radios to other manufacturers during the 60's & early 70's. That could be a Grundig or Telefunken radio in there. | ||
| Post# 626761 , Reply# 16 9/22/2012 at 09:41 (4,227 days old) by thor (Buenos Aires) | ||
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Justin, my guess is the unit has 4 x 8" speakers, judging from the shadows on the fronth cloth... Let's wait and see.. | ||
| Post# 626766 , Reply# 17 9/22/2012 at 10:05 (4,227 days old) by washernoob () | ||
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Oh my! That television is beautiful! Nothing today can compare to the uniqueness of this baby! | ||
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Post# 626778 , Reply# 18 9/22/2012 at 11:28 (4,227 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay) |
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Post# 626783 , Reply# 19 9/22/2012 at 11:44 (4,227 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida) |
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From the looks of the movies I've seen from Mexico, they were/are very stylish people, nothing cheap looking or gaudy. That new "Sonido-Estereofonico" is over the top delightful! Happy listening!!
I have an approximately 1955 Stromberg-Carlson hi-fi with AM-FM, four speed VM changer, and Rangoon Bamboo grillwork. It's hidden from two sets of cat claws right now. It's similar looking to the "Jubilee". I also have one corner cabinet Labyrinth speaker also made by S-C. It's hooked to a '57 Fisher 500 receiver when it's in service. 
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Post# 627288 , Reply# 20 9/24/2012 at 11:43 (4,225 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN) |
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Post# 627289 , Reply# 21 9/24/2012 at 11:44 (4,225 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN) |
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Post# 627290 , Reply# 22 9/24/2012 at 11:45 (4,225 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN) |
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Post# 627291 , Reply# 23 9/24/2012 at 11:45 (4,225 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN) |
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Post# 627307 , Reply# 24 9/24/2012 at 13:25 (4,225 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN) |
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I took the back cover off, and besides being covered in at least an inch of dust, it appeared complete. The speakers are Stromberg Carlson 8 in speakers. There are 2 on each side for a total of 4 speakerks.
The model number of the tv is SG5-1 with the serial number of 156356. The model number of the radio is RU7-4 with the serial number of 143830 Still haven't been able to find more about it as of yet. | ||
| Post# 627356 , Reply# 25 9/24/2012 at 18:33 (4,225 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room) | ||
The changer probably would have info floating about. A fast Google search turns up at least a page of hits for "Garrard AT6". (Note: above "Garrard" was spelled "Gerrard." The stylized name may look like is has an "E" but it's actually an "A".)
I have no idea how common the AT6 was, but Garrard was a huge maker of changers once. | ||
| Post# 627645 , Reply# 26 9/26/2012 at 07:53 (4,223 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
Garrard AT6  | ||
| Post# 627668 , Reply# 27 9/26/2012 at 11:03 (4,223 days old) by mpatoray (New Middletown OH) | ||
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A very nice combo! A great candidate for a full restoration! I hope that you have not plugged it in! Keep us posted on what happens with it. Matt | ||
| Post# 629071 , Reply# 29 10/2/2012 at 20:01 (4,217 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD) | ||
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amp power 16x16w pretty strong amp for vintage tv/stereo HiFi combo-should sound good if everything in good working order. | ||
| Post# 629154 , Reply# 30 10/3/2012 at 04:49 (4,216 days old) by fido () | ||
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Sometimes these quoted power figures are misleading, you really need it specified in RMS (root mean square) power output. | ||
| Post# 629158 , Reply# 31 10/3/2012 at 06:04 (4,216 days old) by thor (Buenos Aires) | ||
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Correction Hi Justin, please change the last part to: "... Elegant cabinet finished in imported fine woods and veneers. Polyester finish." | ||
| Post# 629159 , Reply# 32 10/3/2012 at 06:11 (4,216 days old) by thor (Buenos Aires) | ||
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Manual Cover: Stromberg Carlson Installation, operation and service manual for RU7-4 and AY5-4 models Manufactured in Mexico by Corporacion Mercantil de Mexico S.A. Pine Nbr. 388 or 588 (can't really tell) Mexico 13 D.F. Back Cover: There's nothing finer than a Stromberg Carlson | ||
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Post# 629184 , Reply# 33 10/3/2012 at 11:05 (4,216 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN) |
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Little update on it. I got all the dust blown out of it. The top lid over the phonograph has been removed to resecure the vaneer down. I also pulled the phonograph out, since it appears the wood it sits in is rotted away. I also pulled the wood out and will replace it. It appears that the radio which sits under the phonograph got some water damage as well. I'll have to remove those components and see if they are still good.
Thor: Thank you for your translation. I really appreciate it. | ||
| Post# 629257 , Reply# 34 10/3/2012 at 19:06 (4,216 days old) by thor (Buenos Aires) | ||
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Hi Justin, you're welcome, I'm quite glad you liked the translation! Please feel free to ask for anything else you want me to translate for you! Emilio | ||
| Post# 629614 , Reply# 36 10/5/2012 at 09:29 (4,214 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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at 16 watts/ch | ||
| Post# 629778 , Reply# 38 10/6/2012 at 06:27 (4,213 days old) by fido () | ||
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Is there a good website for vintage electronics? I was in a couple of UK ones but they were badly moderated so I dropped out. | ||
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Post# 629798 , Reply# 39 10/6/2012 at 09:06 (4,213 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN) |
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Here is my favorite site for vintage electronics. They are mainly for radios, but also are about other vintage electronics.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO countryford's LINK | ||
| Post# 629827 , Reply# 40 10/6/2012 at 12:35 (4,213 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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The best Vintage Tube electronics information source
from the early '90s onward was generally acknowedged to be "Vacuum Tube Valley" magazine and website: www.vacuumtube.com... (the website is still there and there is a memorial to the co-founder and proprietor, Charlie Kittleson, who died a couple of years ago of a long time illness). VTV was considered THE authority on vintage tube audio electronics and high end console radios of the 30s (not little 5 tube table radios though), and I had the distinct priviledge of writing and editing for Charlie towards the end of VTV's run.
VTV covered the history of audio and interviewed such seminal figures as Avery Fisher, Paul Klipsch, David Hafler (Dynaco), Saul Marantz, Stew Hedgeman (Harman Kardon), Daniel von Recklinhausen (H.H.Scott), Dick Sequerra, and other giants of the audio industry. Charlie also published the "Vintage Hi-Fi Spotter's Guide Vol 1 and 2", which are now collector items, and he and I had begun the process of producing their replacement when he died. Sometimes issues of VTV are available on eBay, they are an invaluable resource, and also now collector's items. There are numerous other inline, and not always reliable, sources of info on the subject of vintage audio, so take them with a grain of salt! | ||
| Post# 629876 , Reply# 42 10/6/2012 at 19:25 (4,213 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room) | ||
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It weighs a ton, more than my semi-modern Rotel
Actually, if you didn't know this, there would probably be more than one transformer. One for AC power. And one per channel at the output to match the tube to the speaker load. Then Fisher probably used a lot more metal elsewhere.
The Rotel amplifier would probably be heavier than a modern, mass market stereo receiver of similar rated power. Imagine how light that mass market receiver would be compared to the Fisher! I've heard that at least some of the Fisher equipment needs minor updating to be usable under regular use in today's world. If I recall right, it's something to do with the standard AC voltage today vs 1960s. In any case, having the thing looked over by someone who knows vintage equipment would be a good idea. | ||
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Post# 629886 , Reply# 44 10/6/2012 at 20:19 (4,213 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay) |
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| Post# 1127352 , Reply# 45 8/31/2021 at 11:24 (962 days old) by Armenta5050 (maravatio) | ||
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Friends help :3 I have an identical Stromberg Carlson, where can I get the manual? how much could that piece of art be worth? it is impeccable and it still works
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| Post# 1127362 , Reply# 46 8/31/2021 at 14:18 (962 days old) by Blackstone (Springfield, Massachusetts) | ||
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Post# 1129774 , Reply# 47 9/27/2021 at 16:59 (935 days old) by countryford (Austin, MN) |
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Post# 1129870 , Reply# 48 9/29/2021 at 00:27 (934 days old) by robbinsandmyers (Conn) |
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