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Will I be sorry if I bought this Neptune Combo?
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Post# 629264   10/3/2012 at 19:54 (4,215 days old) by moparwash (Pittsburgh,PA )        

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With the Neptune saga being well-documented, will this turn into an unrepairable heap?

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Post# 629336 , Reply# 1   10/4/2012 at 08:29 (4,215 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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That's a good price, they usually are listed for far more around here. I believe these were engineered pretty well and by '05, Maytag had worked out many of the bugs found in earlier models. Parts are available and repair procedures are well documented in videos, etc. online so you shouldn't ever be stuck with a giant "boat anchor". I've been keeping my eyes open for one around here and would kind of prefer one that needed some work as I'd likely end up pulling it apart for maintenance and cleaning anyway.

Post# 629354 , Reply# 2   10/4/2012 at 10:47 (4,215 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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I'm with Greg on this one - I've been keeping and eye open for a stacking Neptune as well. People are either sticking with them, or they didn't sell very many. I haven't seen one on CL in a long time, and they don't show up behind the shops.

Ben


Post# 629381 , Reply# 3   10/4/2012 at 13:12 (4,215 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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This is only 1 of 2 dedicated front load all-in-one platforms that are available in the market. That is that they are not stacked individual units with a mounting kit. The only other one available is Frigidaire. So that makes it unique. The official name is the Neptune "Super Stack", or SS for short.
If there is something wrong with it, it would only be the familiar Neptune issues, as the stackable unit didn't have repairs specific to it.
I was fortunate to find a neighbor getting rid of his and got it for free with some repair issues.
The price sticker I found on it from Sears had a retail price of almost 2k.
Here is a page from a dealer price book I have.


Post# 629382 , Reply# 4   10/4/2012 at 13:16 (4,215 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 629384 , Reply# 5   10/4/2012 at 13:32 (4,215 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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I have seen a few on Craig List here in LA from time to time, but most have been priced higher then I'm willing to pay.  If I came across a fully functional one for that price, I'd probably grab it because I've wanted one too.   I like the idea of those Neptune stacks.

 

Kevin


Post# 629388 , Reply# 6   10/4/2012 at 13:43 (4,215 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        
Don't forget Speed Queen!!!

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They also make a dedicated stacked washer and dryer! The units cannot be separated as they share a control panel just like the Neptune and Frigidaire machines.



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Post# 629474 , Reply# 7   10/4/2012 at 20:30 (4,214 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
One Piece Stacked FL Washer-Dryer Combos

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Thank you Jamie the SQ is diffidently the class act in this category, The Frigidaire would be the most reliable for the first ten years. And the MT is a good performing and very repairable machine. The bad thing about the MT was it was very outdated technology the day it was introduced, it was way overcomplicated and was not a well proven design. The stack had all the problems of the original MAH3000s, and you add to this the pain in the a... service access issues.

 

It just so happens that I struggled with two of these on Capital Hill this afternoon. The first one had a bad inertia switch in the washers off balance circuit and the 2nd one had a bad inlet valve, this one was a royal pain as it required two men to separate and remove the dryer to service.

 

If anyone ever wants one of these machines we see at least ten per month on the scrap pile, most have bad washer bearings. But since they usually come out of hi-end homes they usually are in like new condition. I parted out 4 of them just a few months ago. I did save a gas one for the permanent collection at the museum and they are a good collectable for washer enthusiasts. But I never saw much improvement in the stack models unlike the regular separate Neptune washers.


Post# 629498 , Reply# 8   10/4/2012 at 23:05 (4,214 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)        

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Jerry, I know all about Neptunes and ask me for any advice. I would say buy as it is good for things like bedspreads which maybe you would like to wash now. There are the problems with the washer with mold, rust, but maybe the stack did not have it as bad. All of the incoming water goes into a plastic case deep inside the cabinet. I have found that mold grows in that case and spreads the mold everywhere, so maybe wash all those parts in bleach. Hopefully, this will not have bearing issues. The dryer dries well but it is not the quietest, it sounds just like a Kenmore.

Post# 629779 , Reply# 9   10/6/2012 at 07:10 (4,213 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

I do not know if this pertains to the model you are looking to buy, but the earlier machines could have serious problems in balancing for spin. I watched them in the shop with the back removed and because Maytag only used two shocks or struts under the tub and mounted in the middle, an unbalanced load would result in the tub fishtailing as it tried to spin. If it had 4 shocks, there would have been the stability to prevent the lateral movement. I remember something about the Max Extract option only providing two opportunities for the machine to return to tumble for rebalancing where as without the ME option, there were more so it was best to not use the ME option on loads that might not distribute well for the spin to give them more opportunity to do so and then restart the machine at spin with the ME option selected for possibly greater water extraction.

However, all of that aside, the basic question remains: why build a front loader that does not allow you to see into the machine as it operates? For someone who loves to do laundry and is interested in the process, I cannot think of a more masochistic situation. For all of Maytag's talk about the inner door panel serving to stabilize the cylinder and absorb vibration early on in the game, they changed their message later. Two more struts under the tub would have done it far better. I believe that because the machine used so little water, Maytag was afraid to let people see it working for fear that they would think it could not do an adequate job when they could not see water splashing around.


Post# 629831 , Reply# 10   10/6/2012 at 13:10 (4,213 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Without a window on the washer how do you know if you oversudsed your laundry or not? How would you know you are getting a clean rinse?

The Speed Queen stack unit does have windows in both. However having the dryer with a different shaped window than the washer does look somewhat strange.


Post# 629913 , Reply# 11   10/6/2012 at 22:36 (4,212 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Without a window on the washer how do you know if you oversu

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My Miele doesn't have a port hole, and after awhile one get's used to things.

You prevent over sudsing by only using proper "HE" low froth detergents, and with the right dosage. Failing that one can simply open the door after wash water drains to see if and or how much suds are in the washer.

Actually one can easily listen to the machine and tell if there is too much froth. If laundry is not heard slapping and tumbling around the tub, it is a good indication there is too much suds. Same for the muffled sounds that come from foam being moved about.

On my Miele however the machine especially the pump will make very odd noises if too much froth is present to let one know it isn't happy with the situation. Finally if things are really bad froth will start to come up and out of the detergent dispenser area.



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