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"New" GE Filter Flo owner here :) Questions and strange noises . . .
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Post# 631247   10/13/2012 at 09:32 (4,206 days old) by RWIndiana ()        

My parents had one when I was a baby, and yesterday I picked one up (not sure what year). I had some trouble with it already though. On small/medium loads it seemed to work fine, but on extra large, the agitator had a hard time moving (or didn't move at all), and water poured out of the bottom of the tub. I opened it all up and saw this:





Post# 631249 , Reply# 1   10/13/2012 at 09:41 (4,206 days old) by RWIndiana ()        

Is that an alarming amount of scale in the tub? Anyway, after tightening the steel band back onto the rubber collar, all seems to be well, with no leaks, and running fine on large and extra large. However, there is a slight clunking from the transmission during agitation. Not very loud, but I wasn't sure if that's normal. If so, it doesn't bother me.

Lastly, the spin cycle. There is a "click-click-click" every couple of seconds when it gets up to speed. It sounds like the brake, but quieter.

This is certainly an interesting discussion board. Never knew something like this existed until I started looking for a filter-flo. :) Here's a picture of the machine's console - perhaps someone knows what year this is from:


Post# 631257 , Reply# 2   10/13/2012 at 10:29 (4,206 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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Your machine is from the late Eighties, early Nineties. They changed the design of the backsplashes, slightly, to be consistent with the new GE "Corporate" design specs. I think it's a smart looking panel and yours looks like a very respectable MOL unit.

 

The scale on the bottom of your outer tub is perfectly normal for a well-used machine in a hard water area. It's very easy to clean with de-scaler. The bad news is that it sounds like your transmission will require replacing. GE trannys usually leaked oil when they were ready to sh*t the bed, but yours sounds like it's beginning to fail. FF's rarely struggle to agitate on any sized load and the noise you're hearing during the spin might be a harbinger of death. On the other hand, it could be that the spin brake is out of whack and engaging when it shouldn't. Are you avoiding a service call? You might want to save yourself the grief and the grime. Fortunately, trannies for Filter-Flo's seem to come up once in a while on eBay and some of the techies on this site may have one for sale. I'm told it's an easy job to replace them. The only thing is you'll have to identify your machine as either standard capacity or extra-large.

 

Other more service-knowledgeable members will weigh in on this so listen to them. Good luck and welcome!


Post# 631268 , Reply# 3   10/13/2012 at 10:57 (4,206 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Nice machine!

Where are you at in Indiana? I have a matching dryer, if you're interested.


Post# 631287 , Reply# 4   10/13/2012 at 13:16 (4,206 days old) by RWIndiana ()        

Thanks for the replies! How much do you want for the drier? We've already got two driers, and one is just sitting in the barn, although it would be an interesting proposition to have a matching set. :)
Baja, now that I replaced the steel band, the washer has no trouble agitating. I do hope it's not the transmission. But now that I have this machine, I'll probably be watching for any spare parts that might fit it, since obviously none of the components are getting any younger. The main belt looks a bit worn and has a few small chunks out of it . . .
I think the banging might be the brake. But I don't know how in the world one would fix that. If I can figure out how to post a video, you can hear how it sounds.
By the way, it is an "Extra Large Capacity". Are most of these compatible with one another?


Post# 631309 , Reply# 5   10/13/2012 at 14:47 (4,206 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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I dunno, let me see if it's gas or electric, and maybe get a picture.


Post# 631310 , Reply# 6   10/13/2012 at 14:54 (4,206 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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There were only two sizes of Perforated tub Filter-Flo's made, "Standard capacity" which includes V-12, 14 & 16 and was later called "Large Capacity" and "Extra-large capacity " which began as "Heavy Duty 18" .

 

The components of there machines are largely interchangeable, but the wash-baskets, activators, mini-baskets, outer tubs and transmission assemblies are available in the two different sizes. I suppose you could get away with rebuilding a transmission with a large activator post, but I wouldn't know how to do that.


Post# 631330 , Reply# 7   10/13/2012 at 15:54 (4,206 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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There can be a trick to some of this time frame as far as capacities......meaning, they were using the largest capacity tubs, and small capacity, short post transmissions, thus adding a 2 inch adaptive extention to the top of the agitator for the difference to compensate......this was more seen in the next version of the tilted monochromatic control panel......

its best to take measurements when considering replacements of the exact one......not that you couldn't put a Regular Largest Capacity tranny in, but you would also need the larger agitator....you can interchange alot, but keep in mind some things have to be matched together.....

just pay attention to sizes......but for the most part, anything can be done!


Post# 631331 , Reply# 8   10/13/2012 at 15:57 (4,206 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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There is a very good chance the noise you're getting could be from the belt, especially if the belt "has a few small chunks out of it". I'd replace it and see where it gets you since it needs it anyway.

RCD


Post# 631358 , Reply# 9   10/13/2012 at 17:59 (4,206 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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"Lastly, the spin cycle. There is a "click-click-click" every couple of seconds when it gets up to speed. It sounds like the brake, but quieter. "

Welcome to the Filter-Flo club!
Try running a load on gentle spin and see if that clicking noise you hear is still present.
-Alex


Post# 631359 , Reply# 10   10/13/2012 at 18:02 (4,206 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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.As far as that scale is concerned, try using some "Lime Away" or "CLR" and a bristle brush. Might have to let is soak overnight, but it worked for my Filter-Flo.

Post# 631361 , Reply# 11   10/13/2012 at 18:06 (4,206 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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..also those boots are pretty tough, but if you want, you can buy replacements on-line for the low.

Post# 631384 , Reply# 12   10/13/2012 at 20:33 (4,205 days old) by dustin92 (Jackson, MI)        

We had the same machine as the one above, except ours didnt have the mini basket. According to your description, ours made the same noise. That washer was the best cleaning washer I have used to this day, it was given to us (well used when we got it) and used it for well over a year, until the agitator stripped out (could possibly be your problem with agitation) and shortly after, the motor seized up. As others have said, check/ replace the belt, because it is 20 some years old, so is likely hard and cracked.

Post# 631391 , Reply# 13   10/13/2012 at 21:09 (4,205 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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.If you ran a load on gentle and the noise wasn't there, then you more than likely have your speed solenoid actuator arm misaligned, not allowing it to drop down far enough not to interfere with the rotating clutch cams. 

 

 


Post# 631394 , Reply# 14   10/13/2012 at 21:20 (4,205 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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.In this picture the 2 small cams can be seen sticking out on either side of the round clutch drum above the motor. 

When the speed solenoid is in it's resting position or Regualr/Fast, springs pull the actuator arm down so as not to activate the cams. Basically it's OFF (just like in the picture). Select gentle and the solenoid is energized, lifting the arm from its resting position, upwards to make contact with the clutch cams and thus engage Gentle/slow. 

It's very hard to see, but when it's making that noise, look through the peep hole in the black motor yoke to see if the arm is up or down.

I hope this helps.

-Alex


Post# 631395 , Reply# 15   10/13/2012 at 21:22 (4,205 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 631409 , Reply# 16   10/13/2012 at 22:23 (4,205 days old) by RWIndiana ()        

Well, the noise is quieter and less frequent on the gentle speed, but still there. I can't tell if the arm is moving or not (though it must be, because it does change speeds). Maybe it's not the arm I'm looking at.

The solenoid and all is heavily covered in grease. Bad sign? Most everything under there has a coating of grease, though it doesn't appear to be growing or leaking from anywhere. Perhaps it did at one time. I'll have to take a better look at everything when I've got more time.

Dustin, this one doesn't have the mini-basket either, unfortunately. I'll be keeping my eyes open for that as well. Don't really need it, but it would be kinda neat. :)


Post# 631449 , Reply# 17   10/14/2012 at 04:58 (4,205 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Heavily covered? Not good.


Post# 631471 , Reply# 18   10/14/2012 at 08:13 (4,205 days old) by RWIndiana ()        
Some pictures

I'm gonna try posting some pics of the grease. Don't know if it will be a good representation or not:


Post# 631474 , Reply# 19   10/14/2012 at 08:17 (4,205 days old) by RWIndiana ()        

On this one you can see the grease splattered on the wall of the cabinet. Seems like a lot of grease all over the place. Yet, right now, everything is running fine. I wonder how long it was like this, and how the floor underneath it looked before I got it! It hasn't made a mess on my floor yet.


Post# 631475 , Reply# 20   10/14/2012 at 08:18 (4,205 days old) by RWIndiana ()        

So I guess I'd better be looking for a new tranny? Who knows how long this one will last. :(

Post# 631477 , Reply# 21   10/14/2012 at 08:23 (4,205 days old) by RWIndiana ()        

Forgot to mention, you can also see the damage to the belt in these photos.

Post# 631506 , Reply# 22   10/14/2012 at 10:56 (4,205 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
tranny seal

yep,tranny seal is damaged and belt has been ruined by the oil.Leaky lower seal is a very common filterflo problem-it is caused by metal particles and filings that filterflo transmissions normally generate over years of use collecting atop and wearing on the input shaft seal.Transmission change super easy on a filterflo though.The belt groove on the two-speed clutch is aluminum and wears like mad if the belt has been slipping.

Post# 631515 , Reply# 23   10/14/2012 at 11:38 (4,205 days old) by rwindiana ()        

Thanks for the info. Any ideas what I might be spending on a new transmission, or where I can get one (along with a belt)?

Post# 631517 , Reply# 24   10/14/2012 at 11:48 (4,205 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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It's also possible the transmission is taking on water internally, forcing the grease out. Either way, not good.

 

Best way is to find another washer with a good trans. GE's of that era are starting to rust through the outer tubs, so the trans is still good.


Post# 631521 , Reply# 25   10/14/2012 at 12:22 (4,205 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I would try using some degreaser like simple green and get all of that built up gunk out of there to see what's really going on. This way you can see if there is any fresh evidence of oil being blown around. 

Maybe the grease was there from a prior breakdown and the person that fixed it didn't bother to clean it up? 

 


Post# 631522 , Reply# 26   10/14/2012 at 12:30 (4,205 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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It's also possible to replace the lower seal and change out the oil. If the trans is in otherwise good shape, I've done this. Pull the trans, flip it upside down (either hold it by securing the agitation shaft in a bench vise or use a jig made from a piece of plywood with a hole cut in it so that the trans case sits nice and pretty in it...), then access the lower cover. The shaft seals used to be pretty easy to find and put in.

Just an idea...

RCD


Post# 631526 , Reply# 27   10/14/2012 at 12:58 (4,205 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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.GE doesn't make it easy to see, but the solenoid is behind the motor, pointing towards the center of the machine.  

Follow those 2 wires branching off of the maim motor wiring harness back to it.

The noise I heard when mine was acting up was like someone rapping on an empty coffee can. Click, click, click.


Post# 631539 , Reply# 28   10/14/2012 at 14:20 (4,205 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

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Done is done and works when works. But I would love to have been a fly on the wall at the engineering meeting where they decided that was a better way to do 2 speeds than a motor with 2 windings.

All that mecha AND the vulnerability of the customer changing speeds while running.


Post# 631570 , Reply# 29   10/14/2012 at 17:11 (4,205 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I like my one-speed better in the sense that it is quieter than the 2-speed. Less to go wrong and yes, the repair guide warns NOT to change speeds while the motor is running. I guess it was too costly to put an interlock on the switch once the motor is activated to prevent it.  

 

 


Post# 631576 , Reply# 30   10/14/2012 at 17:53 (4,205 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
2 speeds, 2 sets of windings

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....would have been easier, but GE wanted to filter and pump well regardless of agitaton and spin speed, and they accomplished it with this contraption. Many other brands have anemic recirculation filtering at low speeds, and poor pumping ability, either slow pumpout or it won't lift the water very high for unique drainage applications. Only with the Filter-Flo can you get excellent filtering and high speed pumping even if your cycle is all delicate and gentle. It has its advantages.

Post# 631593 , Reply# 31   10/14/2012 at 19:03 (4,205 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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Mark is correct as to why GE had these stupid and troublesome 2,3,4 and variable speed clutches in their washers instead a multi-speed motor. The irony is that GE is one of the woulds biggest electric motor makers, and every other washer maker made great performing washers without these clutches. The higher speed of the motor really wasn't necessary for good washer performance, in fact Frigidaire 1-18 washers always started their spin cycle on the low speed of the motor, and even had a smaller drain hose and always worked fine [ they did this to reduce the amount of dirty water that can be thrown back over the wash tub and threw the clothing as the machine goes into the spin&drain cycle. which turns the clean clothing into a dirt and lint filter ].

 

As I have said before you can change the speed selector on a GE FF washer back and forth from Hi to low and low to Hi while the motor is running all you want without harm to the clutch and I invite any of you to come do this on any of my GE FF washers.


Post# 631601 , Reply# 32   10/14/2012 at 19:35 (4,204 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

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Thanks for your perspectives gentlemen. I have very little hands-on with GE. I replaced a pump coupler once in 1981.

I understand the desire to have the pump run at full speed, but it would have made more mechanical and economic sense to put the gearbox/clutch on the pump where the load is light than on the main drive. Or just let the pump choke some on high, there is little deficit to doing that.

I have also owned 2-speed Maytags which don't seem to suffer overtly from running the pump at lower motor speed.


Post# 631726 , Reply# 33   10/15/2012 at 02:05 (4,204 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
It must just be me...

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I've actually knocked the shifter arm off on.a GE clutch. Bent a couple as well. After a few service calls, I've learned that customers are better at it than I am...

RCD


Post# 631766 , Reply# 34   10/15/2012 at 06:52 (4,204 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Been there.....Done that.........while at John's, I had the chance to play with his filterflo, at first was a little worried about shifting speeds while running.....but guess what?...you can!.....the speed won't change from fast to slow while running, but the switch can be flipped back and forth with NO issues.....actually the fingers that are held by the solenoid, retract while the machine is running at high speed.....so no damage could occur while running......

probably the most damage that may occur is when trying to shift speeds, the operator will shut the machine off, flip the switch, and turn back on, not allowing enough time for the clutch to slow down to a stop before restarting the machine.....


Post# 631793 , Reply# 35   10/15/2012 at 09:49 (4,204 days old) by RWIndiana ()        

Thanks for all the conversation guys! It's all very fascinating for a newb like me.

I think I am going to go ahead and take the transmission apart and see what's going on in there. I noticed a drop of oil on the floor today, but it looked clean (me confused) unlike the black splatters. Question is, what type of oil should it be packed with to replace whatever has been lost?


Post# 631807 , Reply# 36   10/15/2012 at 10:58 (4,204 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        
I am going to go ahead and take the transmission apart and s

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You're on your own with that, I will defer to other experienced members who are better versed in a transbottomy's than I. 

It's not something I've had a chance to do, and dreading the day I have to. That gear oil has a very nasty smell and it can only get worse with prolonged exposure.


Post# 631891 , Reply# 37   10/15/2012 at 18:06 (4,204 days old) by rwindiana ()        

Didn't mind the smell of the oil too much! Although I was told just today that I am "different" for enjoying a project like this. The story isn't over yet, but I think I'm seeing the light. Unless the pulley seal on the transmission is supposed to be thinner on one side than the other, it's definitely worn, and didn't seem real tight at all around the pulley watchamacallit. I have no idea how to actually get the seal out. Is that thing glued in there? Got some 80w90 oil to replace what was lost (found a thread on here linking to a page that recommended that). There was about an inch of oil left on the bottom. Should I fill it up? That will take a couple of quarts! I dumped the old oil so I can start fresh.
Hmm, can't remember if there's any other info I should share. The number on the seal is 717B328, and also says "nok" on it. On the inside, it says "made in Singapore". :) No idea where to find one of these, but I guess I will start looking.
Now some pics:


Post# 631892 , Reply# 38   10/15/2012 at 18:09 (4,204 days old) by rwindiana ()        

The gears look alright to me. There were metal grounds down in the seal which I cleaned out, but nothing substantial. I think my original agitator problem was simply the oil covered belt slipping.

Post# 631905 , Reply# 39   10/15/2012 at 18:43 (4,204 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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I seem to remember that seal just presses in (and out) and is relatively easy to replace. No glue needed. Congrats on attempting a job that not many techs today will or can do!

RCD


Post# 631960 , Reply# 40   10/15/2012 at 22:03 (4,203 days old) by rwindiana ()        
eBay find

Thank you, RCD! I'm enjoying it. Wish I had more free time. :)

Found this transmission on ebay, but I don't know how to tell if it's compatible. Is there a model number somewhere on the transmission? I thought maybe I could use it, and keep mine as a spare, as it may take me a while to find a seal. Not sure yet.


CLICK HERE TO GO TO rwindiana's LINK on eBay


Post# 631963 , Reply# 41   10/15/2012 at 22:35 (4,203 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
How about this?

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Ask and he shall receive!

RCD


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Post# 631978 , Reply# 42   10/15/2012 at 23:47 (4,203 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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You might want to contact member "Eddy1210", he mentions in post #473202, that he has a few seals on hand.

 


Post# 632054 , Reply# 43   10/16/2012 at 07:12 (4,203 days old) by rwindiana ()        

You guys are amazing!! Tec, the chart helped me find exactly what belt I needed, and RCD, I just purchased the seal you linked to. Now I can relax. Ha. :)

So, the shaft on my trans is 15&1/4", does that mean that I could exchange it, if I have need, for one that has the same length of shaft?


Post# 632061 , Reply# 44   10/16/2012 at 07:51 (4,203 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
GE Transmission on Ebay

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Is the last style that GE used, it will fit either the standard or extra large tub washers. It would fit in your washer but you would have to use a different agitator from one of these last GE washers.

 

If I were you I would consider getting either a factory rebuilt transmission or a good used one, a new one should be around $100, used 1/2 as much. If you want to fix yours I would flush out all the old oil and metal particles before refilling and replacing the bottom seal. GE transmissions were notorious for leaking oil either at the bottom seal or the top seal into the clothing load  so the condition of the top seal should also be considered when refurbishing these transmissions, Good Luck  John.


Post# 632067 , Reply# 45   10/16/2012 at 08:04 (4,203 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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I've replaced the lower seal on my 1960 GE transmission, not a bad job at all. John is right though, replacing the entire transmission is so easy since they are still around.

I saw more than a few of these GE washers in scrap piles that had a plastic drop cloth (for painting) fashioned into a diaper under the machine to catch the oil, I can't imagine the mess they left in owner's homes. Yours could have been much worse!



Post# 632068 , Reply# 46   10/16/2012 at 08:08 (4,203 days old) by rwindiana ()        

Thanks combo. I've got the belt and seal on order, so I guess I will see how long my "home refurbished" unit will last. :)

So apparently, there are several different model numbers for transmissions that would work. The one on eBay is WH28X53, the chart that tecnopolis posted shows WH38X39. And there's another place that said WH38X39 was replaced by WH38M38.


Post# 632069 , Reply# 47   10/16/2012 at 08:11 (4,203 days old) by rwindiana ()        

gansky, I assume that fixed the problem? How long did it last? Judging by the mess that was inside mine, I can imagine the original owner had a mess as well!

Post# 632071 , Reply# 48   10/16/2012 at 08:25 (4,203 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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I did that on my '60 about five or six years ago and it's still holding fine. That was on a metal case tranny, haven't done it on the plastic case.

This was a machine I rebuilt, large capacity a year or so ago. The outer tub was in pretty rough shape and required a lot of patching of rust holes and beginning rust spots. It was pretty far gone all in all and only lasted about a year before developing more leaks. It would be wise to check that outer tub in your machine while you have the machine apart, just to be sure all this mechanical work doesn't get doused with a frustrating water leak. An ounce of prevention...



Post# 632182 , Reply# 49   10/16/2012 at 20:24 (4,202 days old) by rwindiana ()        

Looks nice! Or at least the transmission does. Is that a new one or did you just do a stellar job of cleaning it up?

My tub is in pretty good shape, but it does have a few small rust spots towards the top. I was thinking of sanding those down and painting the entire tub with some sort of sealant (any ideas?).

On a side note, got some "Simple Green" to clean up the grease. Works alright, but I think they should have named it "Simple Sneeze" or "Instant Asthma". Whew!


Post# 632284 , Reply# 50   10/17/2012 at 08:11 (4,202 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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After I sprayed mine down, I got out an old paint brush and went to town. Hitting every nook and cranny, dislodging anything that clumped and could retain moisture, the birthplace of rust.


Post# 632336 , Reply# 51   10/17/2012 at 12:04 (4,202 days old) by RWIndiana ()        

Did you paint it? Do you know what metal the outer tub is? I'm thinking of a primer/metal conditioner before I paint a sealer on.

Post# 632344 , Reply# 52   10/17/2012 at 13:22 (4,202 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        

it is porcelain coated steel-the quality and thickness of the porcelain coating can vary quite a bit,even among washers of around the same era-no rust with the tub of my very"high miles"'81 filterflo while my much lower miles'80 hotpoint rimflo version had a few holes i had to fix.Of course water and other usage factors have an effect on rust too.

Post# 632351 , Reply# 53   10/17/2012 at 14:03 (4,202 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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That pics is like was my Ge after it's oil leak! your one  got a massive oil leak ! This  is a link I always post when someone talks about transmission or seals replacing, that is very simple and helped me alot while I had to change my lower oil seal, as said I learned GE FF  sooner or later tends to leak oil when seals get worn, it does not necessarily means that your tranny is getting trash unless it is the tub seal (not the boot) that went, that would let water getting in the transmission and ruin it...
From what you're describing looks like you might have a belt or  clutch issue but not exclude that tranny is a little  stuck  someway and motor is on effort, also  to do not exclude that maybe is stuck cuz  it got water inside and gears got rusted! Surely is  the fact it got an evident  oil leak!

Replacing a transmission on a filter is harder to expalin rather than do it actually but I know it sounds so at start, what you might meet during replacing would  be stuck basket  bolts from lime etc... as happened to me, it kept 3 days of continuos torching and pounding and a good amount of Wd 40 and Pb Blaster....but I managed, harder part will also be finding a good GE tranny and figure out the exact one you'll need for your model including spline for actiavtor spiral agitator and size, I found  some on ebay time ago but they all were not for my model (it was when I thought I had to replace it, I didn't have need luckily)......

A kind member now became a very good friend, Eddy, helped me alot and also sent me the spare seal I needed, I will never stop thanking him!


The  link I mentioned that helped me alot  also is about a Beaumark canadian washer which internally is exactly the same as a Ge Filter-flo as it was made by them.....

To note that if your washer will work with a new belt and you'll discover your tranny it is still good, you might also replace the seal from the bottom it will be more easy on a side but harder from another as it is very close in there, all you need is to remove pulley unscrewing the bolt, tear out oil seal and replenish with oil enough thick with a syringue or by pouring it very slowly,  dont remeber the right thicness needed but I fill rescue the info if you need it, I anyway suggest you to follow the way in the link so you will see how many oil it lost and it's left (it must not be completely full, little more than half gearbox), If you decide to do that from bottom be sure you'll have your machine on it's side with the bottow facing a little upwards

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Post# 632362 , Reply# 54   10/17/2012 at 16:02 (4,202 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        
You already removed it and I didn't notice before??? I a

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LOL
I'm getting sightless!

Anyway changing an oil seal is not difficult!

This is the part you need!



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Post# 632998 , Reply# 55   10/20/2012 at 09:55 (4,199 days old) by RWIndiana ()        
Update

I got the new belt and seal installed yesterday, and everything seems to be working just great! The banging/clicking noise has stopped too. Agitation seems much more vigorous than it was (tempted to actually use the "gentle" setting!). Yay!

One thing I noticed is that the tub is slightly unbalanced when it spins (without anything in it). Is there a quick fix for this?


Post# 633046 , Reply# 56   10/20/2012 at 14:22 (4,199 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
Yay for fixing it yourself!

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Congrats! Now we need pics (and video, if possible) of your handy work. The trans lower seal really wasn't that bad after all, was it? Not sure about the slight imbalance. Did you check the snubber pads where the suspension comes in contact with the washer frame to make sure they were not contaminated with oil?

RCD


Post# 633059 , Reply# 57   10/20/2012 at 15:01 (4,199 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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...are you sure the washer is totally leveled?  


Post# 633079 , Reply# 58   10/20/2012 at 16:07 (4,199 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Unbalanced Spinning With No Load

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There is no easy fix for this on a GE FF washer, but you may find it spins well with a load.

On WP built DD washers with the water filled balance ring the machine usually will vibrate with nothing in the tub but is actually smother with a load. In any case it is really not important if the washer is smooth without a load.


Post# 635152 , Reply# 59   10/29/2012 at 17:52 (4,190 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
Matching dryer in Indy

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Post# 797911 , Reply# 60   12/7/2014 at 16:41 (3,421 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
filter-flo memories

I once had a GE filter-flo set. I remember every couple of seconds, the suspension would do that click click noise when set to normal speed. Also, it would start on gentle and jump right into normal agitation seconds later. Unfortunately, that filter-flo set is gone. Fortunately, I have another GE washer and dryer set. However, the washer lacks the features I've longed for. These features were: filter-flo and minibasket. The last time I saw a filter-flo in person was in 2007-2008. By the way, my old GE filter-flo had a spiral activator.

Post# 797912 , Reply# 61   12/7/2014 at 16:46 (3,421 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
gear oil smell

I actually like the smell of the GE filter-flo transmission oil. I don't mind it at all.


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