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Thread Number: 43008
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| Post# 632692 10/18/2012 at 19:56 (4,206 days old) by Aprily78 () | ||
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Hello Everyone, Greetings from Yank Land. I recently purchased a used AEG Spin Dryer. Would anyone have any experience with this model or brand? Cheers! April | ||
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Post# 632694 , Reply# 1 10/18/2012 at 20:04 (4,206 days old) by Launderess  (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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They're All Pretty Much The Same
What special did you want to know?
Am curious as to what the electrical rating for the AEG spin dryer is, meaning is it 220v/50hz or 120v/50hz? If the frequency is 50hz versus the American 60hz unless the thing is set up for dual ranges (would say 50/60hz) on the electrical information plate, the motor is going to spin about 20% faster. | ||
| Post# 632700 , Reply# 2 10/18/2012 at 20:14 (4,206 days old) by Aprily78 () | ||
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Oh, dear, I hadn't thought of that. Will that cause problems? | ||
| Post# 632701 , Reply# 3 10/18/2012 at 20:17 (4,206 days old) by Aprily78 () | ||
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It's 230V-50HZ and 350 W. Your thoughts? | ||
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Post# 632703 , Reply# 4 10/18/2012 at 20:22 (4,206 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Depends
If it is rated for 220v-240v you probably can use it on American "dryer" 220v connection but you'll have to change the plug to match your outlet. However if you do not have a 220v connect period you *CANNOT* run the spin dryer on 120v power.
As for the differences in frequency, it may bother the spinner's motor it may not. Causing the motor to spin faster via the increase in frequency may wear it out faster and cause it to fail. However since spin dryers are usually only run for 3-5 minutes at a time (trust me, you don't want to extract wash in these things for long periods), it may all be a wash. What electrical information is printed on the plate? | ||
| Post# 632707 , Reply# 6 10/18/2012 at 20:32 (4,206 days old) by Aprily78 () | ||
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The plate just says "230V~50HZ 350 W"...does that mean I can use it with just a plug converter? Thanks:) | ||
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Post# 632709 , Reply# 8 10/18/2012 at 20:35 (4,206 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Maybe, Then Again Maybe Not
Years ago there was an appliance dealer in Canada that was welling AEG laundry equipment for North American market including the United States.
The washers and dryers were European units requiring 220v/240v power and running on 50hz, but apparently long as the electric power need was met the difference in cycle times and other "changes" caused by running a 50hz machine on 60hz didn't seem to matter. Well that is what those whom purchased the units and the dealer reported. IIRC process was complicated and ended due to lack of USA service. The Canadian dealer only arranged shipping (and even then it may have been to the border or some such, either way there still would have been custom duties), and after that one was on one's own. If something broke down or went wrong you'd have to contact Canada who one presumes would have to order parts from AEG, though IIRC they did provide limited technical support via telephone/Internet. You'd be surprised how much European laundry equipment is on US shores. My Pfaff ironer came from Germany the same way much of the other stuff did,persons moved house and brought things over from the "Old Country". In the early days of eBay you'd find all sorts of washers by AEG, Miele and others that never were sold here. Indeed was speaking to a Miele USA tech today on another matter and he related they have a W770 at their plant. There also used to be a list of *approved* Miele appliances that could be brought from the UK/EU countries to the United States and would work and or required only slight conversions. | ||
| Post# 632711 , Reply# 9 10/18/2012 at 20:38 (4,206 days old) by Aprily78 () | ||
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It's just a clothes spin dryer, one of those you put the clothes in to extract the water. | ||
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Post# 632714 , Reply# 10 10/18/2012 at 20:42 (4,206 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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We're Speaking of A Spin Dryer/Extractor
Not heated tumble dryer. Something along what is shown in the link below.
Wäscheschleuders, spin dryers are and or were very popular in the UK and EU at one time when front loading washing machines didn't spin much faster than 900rpms. Given how much laundry was line dried using a spin dryer allowed things to dry faster, even if being dried indoors and or not in the best climate (ie a fresh sunshine filled day with a good breeze). Even when tumble dryers became common on those shores a spin dryer would save energy because there was less remaining moisture to be evaporated after a high speed spin. Spin dryers for domestic use grew out of the extractors such as those made by Bock found in commercial laundries and laundromats on both sides of the pond. These first came into use because early washing machines were just that, they didn't (our couldn't given the technology limitations of the day) extract water. So laundry was just washed, rinsed then moved over to extractors to be spun dry. Later as washing machines became fully automatic but had low spin speeds extractors were still used (see reason given above). CLICK HERE TO GO TO Launderess's LINK | ||
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Post# 632722 , Reply# 11 10/18/2012 at 20:50 (4,206 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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It's 230V-50HZ and 350 W. Your thoughts?
Again the electric power requirement difference should be a huge problem (US 240V vs German 230V),long as you've the proper plug installed. However as your unit is designed to run on 50hz, it is going to spin 20% faster on our 60hz system. So instead of 2800 rpms or so you're looking at about 3100 rpms or so. You are going to be running the motor faster than normal and it may not like it for long. Worse comes to the worse you'll have a shortened lifspan.
Did you get this unit off eBay? Regardless if it was purchased on this side of the pond it is a pretty safe bet to assume it was used previously and worked. So again your main concern is how much stress running the thing faster is going to cause and how much if any it will shorten the life of the motor. | ||
| Post# 632724 , Reply# 12 10/18/2012 at 20:57 (4,206 days old) by Aprily78 () | ||
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Yes, I did get it off of ebay. I was thinking of getting a clothes spinner here in the USE, that advertised as spinning 3100 RMM, but wanted to get one that was made in Europe. I am thinking of getting a transformer to help the conversion. | ||
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Post# 632727 , Reply# 14 10/18/2012 at 21:01 (4,206 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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You Don't Need A Transfomer
If you have 240v power in your home. If not then yes, you'd have to get one but make sure it is rated for two to three (three is better) more watts than the max power of the appliance.
Quite honestly if you are in the United States there are all sorts of spin dryers offered on sale via eBay and elsewhere that run on 120v power and spin at 2800rpms or above. Spin X is one and Laundry Alternative is another. Have the latter now for a few years and it works a treat. Noisy at times but gets the job done. Saw that AEG unit on eBay for the longest and never bothered because of the power requirement and that one could have a new or slightly used 120V unit for the same or less cost. | ||
| Post# 632738 , Reply# 16 10/18/2012 at 21:27 (4,206 days old) by Iowegian () | ||
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My sources indicate that your machine is intended for use only in the Southern hemisphere. Using it in the Northern hemisphere would most likely be problematic due to the Coriolis effect. | ||
| Post# 632793 , Reply# 18 10/19/2012 at 06:13 (4,206 days old) by fido () | ||
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Whether the mains frequency affects the spin speed will depend on the design of motor. The synchronous motors in audio equipment are governed by mains frequency but a normal brush type motor is not. | ||
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Post# 632794 , Reply# 19 10/19/2012 at 06:23 (4,206 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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AC induction motors speeds are also influenced by the line frequency-but--you can obtain VFD drives for 3Ph motors to vary their speed. | ||
| Post# 632869 , Reply# 20 10/19/2012 at 16:17 (4,205 days old) by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada) | ||
I have | ||
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Post# 632919 , Reply# 21 10/19/2012 at 20:48 (4,205 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Only Spin Drier One Would Consider Importing From Europe
Would be a vintage or perhaps new Miele, or older Frigidaire. Otherwise feel the modern "laundry alternative" one got for a few dollars on fleaPay is fine.
One thing about modern spin dryers is that the plastic bits inside and or including the braking systems are noisy. Brakes are now mandatory IIRC for spin dryers sold in the EU or UK, as opposed to older units that simply coasted to a stop. Locking lids are also required as well. Have a strange hunch that spin dryers made within the past ten or so years are fine with either 50hz or 60hz. I mean the demand isn't that great that everyone is making them on their own which leads me to think only one or two major players are cranking these things out for various markets. Given the demand it's not likely different motors are fitted for regions, other than 120v or 230v power that is. | ||
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