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Servis Mk2 arrived but injured, I need help
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Post# 639377   11/16/2012 at 08:59 (4,150 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Hi guys my so waited and wonderful Servis Mk2 arrived just 15 minutes ago, the problem? It came with it's knobs destroyed!

The plastic ring in the timer and pumping knob were missing as for the timer and pumping program dial peel inside.

Unpacking it pieces of plastic ring, the timer knob and peel dropped on the floor, and God, I didn't crush it anywhere so it was during shipping!


There was just a knob untouched and is the one of the spinner heat, the timer does not even have the spline....
Here is a good question....where to find spare knobs?
Also how to have access to the timer  attempting to fix it?
I'm posting a pic later

Thanks in advance to everyone who can help me.

Also

I thank  infinitely to  Nina  for everything and selling shipping it to me,  despite she  took much care of the packaging and  she did a good job  they were able to damage it anyway.
Also I thank you Fido for getting Nina in contact to me! Thank you so much!
I hope I can get it fixed!

 

Please help me!

 





Post# 639381 , Reply# 1   11/16/2012 at 09:12 (4,150 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Here is the damage:


Post# 639387 , Reply# 2   11/16/2012 at 10:11 (4,150 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
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Ohhhh that is terrible, i am so sorry it has gotten damaged, there is nothing more upsetting.

There are Servis people on here who can hopefully help you.
Good luck


Gary


Post# 639388 , Reply# 3   11/16/2012 at 10:40 (4,150 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        
"there is nothing more upsetting"

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Yep! And unfortunately I experienced it also in the past but not so much, but what can you do? I'm contacting Fedex asking what of the word FRAGILE written in large letters on the package they did not understand, it is the first time something like this happens with them.
The machine was on a pallet without any type of rope or belt, just supported on it itself,  the cover was crushed and the work top enamel have some scratches and was removed (I guess from the hit) and some enamel splinters were still there and BTW one got in my finger also!
But this is not what concern me mostly, nor the bent wheel that i can fix rather those knobs that I bet are very hard to be find and also the repair on the timer....
I hope some good, kind and charitable guy or girl  on here is able to help me with this issue....I'm so sad and disappointed.
I already love this machine! Every time my eyes points to  it now and I see it  in these conditions I'd be able to break a wall as I'm angry!

Thank you for comforting words! I appreciate them!


Post# 639392 , Reply# 4   11/16/2012 at 11:24 (4,150 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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A little paint would hide it, not from close distance though........
It does have one scratch also behind the lid...


Post# 639417 , Reply# 5   11/16/2012 at 13:37 (4,150 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
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Hello if the Timer spline is missing then sadly thats been snapped off as the spline is part of the timer the knob just pushes on to it. However do not despair there are timers about I have a few, I just need you to tell me if its a 2 or 4 contact as they did two designs. You will have to take the front panel off to access the remains of the timers.
There is one screw under the pump knob and then there is one underneath at the front you should be able to pull the panel away from the bottom just make sure you do not pull any wires off without knowing where to put them :)

Austin


Post# 639428 , Reply# 6   11/16/2012 at 14:40 (4,150 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        
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Thank you for the help and offer for the timer, I've  noticed  there is a screw under the pump  knob I'll  look for the other one underneath tomorrow when my sister will be here so she will help me also...
Of course I will  make sure to do not pull out wires  I will just see  the contacts number to tell you and I'll wait until I receive the new timer, I will let you know  thank you!
I forgot to mention that the pumping dial of  peel  is whole luckily, looked like it was missing a piece but it's whole! Just the timer peel  with wash times was shredded!
Having the timer working will be a huge step ahead! I wish I can find two or three spare knobs also though,  I've also noticed that the spinner heater knob have a crack  and turning it scrapes all the blue cover of the dial frame,  but some loctite would solve this problem I guess will buy some tomorrow and try, if   so the research for knobs will be just for two( just the empty knob also would be fine)  maybe a kind member  could pull out his wash timer peel  and  photocopy it and send the copy to me, so I will cut it and put it back in place,  by laminating it maybe so will be "timeproof"  .
It is just an estetic issue but that I hope to fix anyway as well, this machine is fascinating and considering that apart knob and a few scratches is like  new it would be a pity to keep it this way, I spent good money to get it over here also, I hope they will at least partially refund what I spent....
It is a fascinating machine and I already love it so much! Looking forward for a wash!
Thanks again!!!!


Post# 639596 , Reply# 7   11/17/2012 at 03:09 (4,149 days old) by ninja2101 ()        

Hi Freddy

I've just seen your email and I thought I'd have a look on here too, to see if you posted any more pics. I'm absolutely gutted about what's happened and so is my husband since it was his elderly grandad's machine that had been so well-looked after for all those years. How could they have treated it so carelessly?!?! It was clearly heavy and clearly fragile!!!!! Grrr it makes me so angry. Perhaps it fell over in transit? Anyway, if you can send me more pictures I'll contact Fedex and log a complaint and ask for some sort of refund. I'm so sorry that your excitement about receiving it has now been replaced with huge disappointment.

Nina


Post# 639612 , Reply# 8   11/17/2012 at 05:43 (4,149 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Thank you Nina, I will send you more pics later for sure, I already wrote few lines to Fedex yesterday and spoke with a Fedex UK rep...the Fedex UK didn't help and told me that I had to contact the Fedex office of my area to file a complaint (a payment number for the record).

Nina I'm almost fully sure that is fell,  it was on a pallet suppoorted just by it's weight, no belt or rope, a wheel was bent as probably it engaged on the pallet and stayed hanging on that side for awhile,  I believe also it slided  going here and there and getting hits.... the body a part the scratches loks OK, but you know  it's a very strong and heavy machine, it's plug was all bent and you know that to bend  one of yours UK plugs thick fins you need a good weight/force on it! I really spent alot of effort to straighten it, so it means it was pushed so much even under that thick layer of bubble wrap and cardboard.
I have no words for all this! You took much care of the packaging and really did a good job with, I cannot think if it wasn't well packed what I'd have received then!

They treated it very badly!
I will send you more pics later.  Luckily you got those pics before the shipment so we can send them the after and before to let them understand what they did!
Getting angry and grumble now will not give me back the knobs and timer, so I just have to calm down and think to fix it.
Thank you Nina again!
I will work hard to restore it.




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Post# 639624 , Reply# 9   11/17/2012 at 07:48 (4,149 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Hi Freddy, sorry to hear about the delivery, will search about and see what we can come up with, basically its the wash knob and timer and the pump control knob, must say they are rare and only come to existence when a minger of a machine is scrapped, which hasnt been any in my case, I`m sure I have a pump knob....

Will check this week and let you know asap!!

Do you have any more pics, is it rusty or is that just the phone camera?

For anyone searching its the two lower ones that Freddy needs!!


Post# 639626 , Reply# 10   11/17/2012 at 08:29 (4,149 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Thank you Mike!!!
No it is not rusty, it was my crappy phone camera and low light, it just need a good bath and touch up to enamel work top scratches and cabinet scratches...
I will take more pics now and will post them.

Thank you alot again!


Post# 639633 , Reply# 11   11/17/2012 at 09:39 (4,149 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
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Am on the case Mike its a question of seek and find in my shed lol

Austin


Post# 639641 , Reply# 12   11/17/2012 at 10:17 (4,149 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Freddy,

Congrats on your machine, you have been waiting for one for so long, bit of a bummer that it got a bit damaged in transit, but rest asured, I am sure amongst us we will help all we can.

I will pop to my garage tomorrow and see if i can find any knobs, I scrapped my first Mk2 years ago, after i fully restored it, it had a few issues and a new had already come along in perfect condition, I am sure i took all the knobs off. I think the removal of the front panel can be a bit tricky if it is anything like the MK1's, just had a look at the technical manual and there are two pins that come up from the base which the front panel have holes for, there are 3 tabs at the top of the panel which go behind the front frame, I know when i took mine of I found it tricky and ended up releasing the retaining clamps at the back, although i am going back over 15 years so the ole brain could be getting rusty !! The attached pic is of my first servis twinny.

I will let you know once i have have a rumage !!
Cheers
Keith


Post# 639644 , Reply# 13   11/17/2012 at 10:24 (4,149 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
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thanks Mike I wondered if you would be able to help

Gary


Post# 639650 , Reply# 14   11/17/2012 at 10:40 (4,149 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Thank you guys for all the kind help, wishes and support!

Thank you Keith if you can find the knobs you'd make  me so happy, I'm  sorry to hear you had to scrap your first one, and after the restoration but I'm happy another one came along!

I already removed the front panel and it was not that difficult just the 2 screws that Austin mentioned,  I removed the internal switch frame and checked the timer, is a 4 contacts timer....
I do not know if it's bad but I found some oil in the cabinet dropping from the gear box, is that normal from a servis mk2 or I should I worry about?
I'd like to try the  wash motor before bothering anyone to search and send any spare knob or piece , is that possible by jumping the contacts now just to see if it runs as it should?


Anyone knows what is the right contact to do? Just upper and lower contact  of each left or right  side, or upper side left and right  and lower side the same way,   or maybe  crossed contact?
You're so kind everyone! Thank you so much guys!

God Bless you!




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Post# 639669 , Reply# 15   11/17/2012 at 12:50 (4,149 days old) by fido ()        

If is has been on it's front at some point the oil has probably found it's way out of a vent hole. It might need to be topped up but then you could clean up the mess and see if any more drips appear.
I'm sorry it got damaged but your story is very familiar. A lot of these delivery van drivers are very careless but to an extent I can understand this. They are very poorly paid and often required to do an unreasonable number of deliveries in a day so they have to rush everywhere. In some cases they are not even regular employees but temporary workers who might be at a different job the next day.


Post# 639703 , Reply# 16   11/17/2012 at 14:27 (4,149 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Thank you Phil!  And thank you agan for getting Nina in contact with me!

The oil looked old, not fresh....I could see some even in the base..,
Eventually how can I top it up?
I want forget about  this story and don't talk anymore if not with fedex,  the speech you expose is correct I believe though that  whenever is company oveloading and underpaying employees  or simply not checking what their employess do is fault of comapny anyway, so maybe employees could be excused/understood, company not since they ask good money infact is from them now I'd like to get a refund, anyway now on here I 'd just like  to look ahead and focus on repair...I do not want bother you with my grumbles again, too much already....Wink

Thank you all again!

You cannot imagine how happy you make me!


Post# 639710 , Reply# 17   11/17/2012 at 14:42 (4,149 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Any suggestions about timer contacts? I'd like to see if wash motor works...

Thanks


Post# 639743 , Reply# 18   11/17/2012 at 15:58 (4,149 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Oil over the gearbox:


Post# 639744 , Reply# 19   11/17/2012 at 16:00 (4,149 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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And base:


Post# 639883 , Reply# 20   11/18/2012 at 06:35 (4,148 days old) by fido ()        

I've never done a gearbox on these so I don't know what gaskets or oil seals they have. I would just take it apart and see what's leaking but if you are less confident on mechanics you would be better to wait for a reply from someone more experienced on Servis TTs. I owned one in the early '80s but only had simple faults like stretched belts.
Have you looked inside to see what remains of the timer? If you are lucky it might still be relatively intact but detached from the panel.


Post# 639892 , Reply# 21   11/18/2012 at 07:06 (4,148 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        
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I was told via PVT message that some oil after these years is normal , so I will just wait to see if everything works and leaks again ...I've cleaned now and seems nothing leaks....
The Timer is still attached on the panel, it just miss the spline, nothing is bent or detached inside there....just spline was snapped out.


Post# 640159 , Reply# 22   11/19/2012 at 06:47 (4,147 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        
After a day.......

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Does not leak now seems, all is clean.... I will have to wait to run the wash motor to determine if oils during gears movement gets out....
It looks it was a very small leak over the time, base was skigtly oiled  but motor which is just under it is not oiled or greased so much nor have strips or marks of oil dropping...so I guess I should not worry and it may be normal that some oil spilled in the past from the vents and maybe some now during shipping, infact I could notice now just a drop  of fresh oil on the floor  but  that you can even  see in a pic I posted yesterday ,  I think  let it drop by touching it yesterday....
While cleaning I could see that  there're two small "pipes" on the gear box cover, are those the vents?  If not what are them for? Marks of old oil  were also found on the "rear" part of gearbox transmission assembly under the tub that I could not clean.....

I cannot seen any seal coming out in the joint of gearbox/transmission assembly but I'm sure it should be one....
Are the vents located even in the rear part of transmission?
All this assembly  looks is covered with  old  spilling oil marks here and there...

Thanks


Post# 640201 , Reply# 23   11/19/2012 at 11:03 (4,147 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Hi Freddy, it looks like every other Servis MK2 I`ve seen, just a normal build up of oil, from the front of the machine the vent on the gearbox is visible at the back. Still checking for controls, will visit storage this week to see what can find!

I`ll check with Matt tonight about bypassing the timer, need to make sure its the right info..




Post# 640236 , Reply# 24   11/19/2012 at 14:20 (4,147 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Thank you alot again Mike!

That would be great to have info about how to bypass the timer correctly so that I can see if motor runs as it should...
I'm already starting topping up cracks and scratches meanwhile ......
I love this machine each day more!

Thank you for all the great help!

 


Post# 641182 , Reply# 25   11/24/2012 at 08:05 (4,142 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Ok Austin is sending his broken timer so I should be able to remove it's spline and replace it into my timer...

Thank you again Austin!

Meanwhile I'm starting  restoring it.... tomorrow will start topping up  the grey lid arms....wish I can have the knobs replaced someday.
It's a beauty!
Thanks again to all!


Post# 641538 , Reply# 26   11/25/2012 at 13:45 (4,141 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Hi All!
Any news for the knobs?......
Thanks!


Post# 641546 , Reply# 27   11/25/2012 at 14:12 (4,141 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Freddy,
Sorry for the delay, been dealing with an assignment at work, exman's who needs them !! I will get to the garage this week, I know i have at least one knob, not sure about the inset that goes in the knob, have you got that..the little symbols ?
Regards
Keith


Post# 641562 , Reply# 28   11/25/2012 at 15:12 (4,141 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Hi Keith! No problem take your time, no rush for them thank you! Just go when you're more convenient to...
I just have the heater spinner symbols and the pump symbols, I miss the timer numbers that got shredded.
I'd need 2 knobs but even one will be a start! Thank you!
If I can't manage to find the timer symbols what I would ask is if a member would be willing to take the bother to take off his one and copy or scan it and send it to me via email (if printing will get the same size), then if so  I will print it and laminate it with plasic and put back in place....
Let's hope...
Thank you again Keith!

Have a nice evening.
Freddy.


Post# 641565 , Reply# 29   11/25/2012 at 15:24 (4,141 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
I have.....

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The complete pump knob and insert, there is a slight crack in the plastic ring but you only see it when you look in a certain light....

Post# 641566 , Reply# 30   11/25/2012 at 15:37 (4,141 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Thank you Mike!

I just need 2 knobs so if Keith will find and send just one I will  accept this one for you also, I don't mind of  small cracks,  it will be anyway better than now.... LOL
I have the pump insert so you could take it off if you want to save it,  I  just miss the timer insert. 
Any chanche someone could take the bother to take off his own one scan it and send the scan to me?
I think it's the only way unless the knob that Keith has is the timer one....
Thank you again Mike for the kind offer!
Freddy


Post# 643658 , Reply# 31   12/3/2012 at 07:00 (4,133 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Hi All!
Austin, the timer and hose connector were in my post box today, I already removed mine and half disassembled the timer you sent, it looks slightly different as mine looks like had kinda ring where the spline is, while yours have a screw which is built in the timer body, not sure what was that for, maybe for a different model .
Does not look simple to replace the spline so I will bring everything at work today as we've an acquinatance of mine who is an electrician so i will ask him to help me.
Thank you! Austin Expect a small gift in return for them! Hope you can enjoy an italian detergent!
I hope someone could send me the knobs....
Looking forward to operate the machine within tomorrow!
Thank you again!


Post# 643703 , Reply# 32   12/3/2012 at 11:27 (4,133 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Hi all, unfortunately I got a bad (for me) news about the timer, I had it looked from my father (the electrician couldn't help much) since it is more a clock than an electric thing, him being a jeweler and understanding more about clocks told me the bad news.
The timer is a mechanical not an electromechanical one as I previously tought, nothing but a spring operated clock, we looked it togheter and he said as I could notice myself also after having the mechanism completely removed that the spline cannot be changed at least not so easily, this unless after having disassembled all the clock movement which is an hard task for both me and him ( he is used to other kind of watches) he also said he is not sure if the spline can be changed, at least that would mean disassemble piece by piece the unit.....
So all I can do with the timers is to bring them to a watchmaker (that today was closed) hopefully that he can do something and also and no less important will not ask a fortune ti fix it....
I do not know if will be more convenient and so cheaper to have Austin's timer fixed or mine having the spline replaced and all reassemled then, the sure thing is that it all is a thing I can't do myself,and I'm so hopeful will not have to spend a fortune...
Nothing is loss anyway, is just good to have had that timer from you Austin, at least is a better starting point as without the spline I could not go anywhere. Thank you again!
Disassembling it I also learned how to bypass the contacts and that is just a good thing! I will try to operate the motor later!
I will also post some pics od the timer disassembled so that maybe this thread will be a useful one if anyone in the future will have a similar issue, hopeful it will not happend to anyone!
Thank you again for the help!
Freddy


Post# 644028 , Reply# 33   12/4/2012 at 13:53 (4,132 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        
Back to starting point......

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Hi all again.
Sadly the watchmaker could not help, he said he was not sure to manage what I was asking him as long as the option of fixing the timer that Austin sent, he has been very honest he said that it would have costed him alot of time he didn't have and so he didn't feel to ask me money in case of failing and it was a very probable thing to happend......
So back to starting point :(
But.
Speaking with that electrician today he said there could be the possibility to get an electromechanical timer that would do the work it does, shape might be very different and also not sure if the spline would be the same or would fit but now like now that would be the only thing I could try.....
Hope is still strong.....wish not another letdown waiting for me....
I'm so frustrated....
I will post some pics I took with my phone of the timer.....
Thank you all again!




Post# 644048 , Reply# 34   12/4/2012 at 15:33 (4,132 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Timer pics

Post# 644049 , Reply# 35   12/4/2012 at 15:34 (4,132 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Timer inside:

Post# 644050 , Reply# 36   12/4/2012 at 15:36 (4,132 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Oh well excuse me this last pic is horrific (crappy phone and mad photographer), posted by mistake, going to take another now...

Post# 644051 , Reply# 37   12/4/2012 at 15:39 (4,132 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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number 2

Post# 644052 , Reply# 38   12/4/2012 at 15:40 (4,132 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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number 2, it does not get better...LOL

Post# 644060 , Reply# 39   12/4/2012 at 16:44 (4,132 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Post# 644061 , Reply# 40   12/4/2012 at 16:46 (4,132 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
Fear not Freddy

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I am sure something will turn up for you and you will get this machine up and running :)
I will look again when I get chance and see if there are any other timers I can send as soon as I know I will inform you.

Austin


Post# 644062 , Reply# 41   12/4/2012 at 16:46 (4,132 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Have just 2 contacts though :(
Then maybe it did not even fit the original knob....


Post# 644078 , Reply# 42   12/4/2012 at 18:11 (4,132 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Thank you alot Austin!!! Thank you for your kindness again!!!

Post# 644218 , Reply# 43   12/5/2012 at 11:38 (4,131 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Freddy

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Check your AW email please for info!


Post# 644224 , Reply# 44   12/5/2012 at 11:57 (4,131 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Thank you Mike I'm not upgraded now so I couldn't see messages, I didn't have funds on my prepaid card but I will try to upgrade right now as I should have received a refund from ebay yesterday so maybe I have money in my card now, but not fully sure if the funds are already been charged usually a refund takes few days.
If I cannot manage to upgrade I would kindly ask you to copy and paste the message and send it to my facebook or personal email (the one in my profile is my current email)
Thank you alot!!!


Post# 644225 , Reply# 45   12/5/2012 at 12:01 (4,131 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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OK
Done,thank you Mike and Austin for the messages! Sorry but I could not read them as upgraded days expired....
I'm going to reply, thank you again!


Post# 644228 , Reply# 46   12/5/2012 at 12:10 (4,131 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
No Probs

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Will do


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