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Thread Number: 43535
Uh Oh... D+M Caloric Dishwasher in NJ. |
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| Post# 640038 11/18/2012 at 18:08 (4,173 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
The Real Deal.
Looks pretty much TOL too. Ummmmmmm... $250.00 ??? I think Not. But it does have Super Wash and Hot Water Scrub Cycles. Never heard of the "Hot Water Scrub" Cycle. CLICK HERE TO GO TO toploader55's LINK on Newjersey Craigslist | ||
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Post# 640043 , Reply# 1 11/18/2012 at 18:26 (4,173 days old) by appnut  (TX) |
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Post# 640048 , Reply# 2 11/18/2012 at 18:47 (4,173 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay) |
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Just Scary Not just the price, but that top lamp designation really made me cringe.
If you're going to label it as "On Light" then shouldn't the other two be labeled "Water Heat Light" and "Power Saver Light?"
No wonder D&M machines get no respect (OK, except from maybe one of us here). They (or at least Caloric) had no respect for the intelligence of the end user. | ||
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Post# 640064 , Reply# 3 11/18/2012 at 19:28 (4,173 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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As if you need a light to let you know a D&M machine was on unless it's drying, maybe. | ||
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Post# 640069 , Reply# 4 11/18/2012 at 19:42 (4,173 days old) by parunner58 (Davenport, FL) |
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The interior looks exactly like the Kemore one we bought my mom the spring of 1976. It washed so bad we took it back and bought the GE Potscrubber. It left food bits on the stuff in the upper rack and the silverware had spots of stuff on them. Ours had the same wash arm configuration with Normal, Short wash, High temp wash, and Rinse and Hold. We got ours right after the Roto-racks were discontiinued.
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Post# 640129 , Reply# 7 11/19/2012 at 01:09 (4,173 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.)) |
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Caloric DW
When I was very young we lived in a townhouse with a lower line version of this disaster. "Neighbors complaing about the machine's noise and having to bail out water after every cycle". When we moved to MN Mom got a Hobart/KA KDP-20. The Hobart machine was much quieter, faster, held many more dishes and washed them much cleaner using 1/2 the water changes. Of course what would one expect going from a completely worthless piece of shit to a DW made by the world's leading warewashing experts.
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| Post# 640161 , Reply# 9 11/19/2012 at 07:03 (4,173 days old) by chris74 () | ||
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Caloric? Is that the brand's name? | ||
| Post# 640168 , Reply# 10 11/19/2012 at 07:48 (4,173 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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Yes Chris
Caloric used to be a manufacturer of Gas Ranges, Gas Cooktops and Wall Ovens. Popular in the 50's and early 60's that I can recall, (or their HayDay so to speak) One of there selling points was the "Ultra Ray" Broiler Units in their Ovens. Dishwashers however, were D+M machines just with the Caloric Name on them. I don't believe they did anything with refridgeration or washers and dryers. If they did, it was a rebadge.
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Post# 640170 , Reply# 11 11/19/2012 at 07:51 (4,173 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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D&M Built DWs My 8th grade algebra teacher [ who loved her KM washer and dryer ] said she loved to hang around dishwasher sales area in her local Sears store and when she saw someone looking at a KM DW she would go over and whisper get a Kitchen-aid DW, LOL.
Our family also bought our first DW from Sears in 1966, we were having Sears remodel our kitchen and my father and I both pushed for the MOL KM 600 built-in DW, my Mother and older brother both wanted to get a KDI-15 because of CRs rating and the fact most of my Aunts had KAs and liked them. My father did not believe in paying for overpriced brand names so the KM won out as the final selection.
Boy did I learn a lesson, the D&M DW while it did an OK job on dirty dishes [ we never rinsed anything as the instruction book said that it was not necessary ] the breakdowns started during the first year warranty. The DW had at least three warranty calls and by the time the machine reached its tenth year of life and I pulled it out and installed a three year old WP SAU-500 every part of the KM had either been replaced or rebuilt except the tank and the racks, even the inner door panel rusted so badly I replaced it.
The WP DW not only never had a problem it did a much better job and I have had WPs ever since. I also have two KAs a KDS-16 and a KDSS-20 and while these are beautifully built machines they both have design flaws that affect the performance that the WPs do not have. The biggest problems with the KAs are messy [ stinky ] filters poor drying [ especially if used on energy saver dry ] and the lack of real water heating with the pump running where the water gets to a guaranteed temperature during the main wash and final rinse. As a service person I have always found KA DWs to be a lot more fussy and a little more repair prone than WPs, GEs as they are so much more complicated that they often needed a little help. | ||
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Post# 640180 , Reply# 12 11/19/2012 at 08:46 (4,172 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Post# 640299 , Reply# 14 11/19/2012 at 20:00 (4,172 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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D&M Top Loading DWs | ||
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Post# 640454 , Reply# 16 11/20/2012 at 12:05 (4,171 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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I had a roll away model too | ||
| Post# 640460 , Reply# 17 11/20/2012 at 12:25 (4,171 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ) | ||
I've loved my D&Ms, but...
I've had lots of great experiences with D&Ms, but I always wondered about this design. I remember Bob alluding to the fact that Sears got their posteriors handed to them one year because the redesigned models after the Roto-Racks washed so badly. Why was that, and what was so different about the design at that point?
D&Ms to me always seemed to be more or less an evolution of the same design; no big surprises, good or bad. | ||
| Post# 641180 , Reply# 18 11/24/2012 at 07:33 (4,168 days old) by rpms (ontario canada) | ||
The first dishwasher I ever saw was my Aunt Doris's Kenmore,DM dishwasher.
I thought it was the most marvelous thing, EVER. I loved the lights and the sounds. I don't recall it being that noisy? My mom had a DM dishwasher branded Admiral. It was basically the same as the Kenmore minus the electronic controls and the third level wash. Mom's dishwasher was used and washed for a long time. The door springs broke and the dishwasher was replaced with a Viking GE. The Viking last one year and was kicked to the curb. Actually it got kicked to the loading dock of the Salvation Army and was last seen face down. That dishwasher never produced one clean load of dishes. The Admiral did a much better job. I found replica of my Aunt's in the garbage several years back. It is sitting behind me at the moment. It too has broken door springs and a cord wheel that doesn't work. The electronics have also froze. I am not sure if it can be fixed? I just can't throw it out. My dishwasher has 8 water changes. Would this make it one of the thirstiest dishwashers of all? 
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