Thread Number: 43674
Fill Drum Only Three-Quarters? Is This The New Trend With Front Loaders |
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Post# 641651   11/26/2012 at 00:45 (4,140 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There“s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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There's me nosing around the owner's manual for Miele's 3033 when it came at me; "...load washer 3/4 of the way full... clothes need room to tumble...". What sort of nonesense is this?
Was always taught to load front loading washers "full" enough so that one could get a fist worth of width between the top of the wash and the tub. Laundry would compact down once wet and reduce the volume of washing. If the Miele 3033 is rated to hold 6kg (or whatever) by design of the tub, but only 3/4 worth of space can be used that isn't totally true then is it? I mean my w1070 can truly hold about 11 pounds (5kg) of washing depending upon what load composition. |
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Post# 641653 , Reply# 1   11/26/2012 at 01:02 (4,140 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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Just a queen linen set fills my FL dry. Once wet, one could probably fit another set just like it and it would likely work just fine. Were one to jam dungarees where another wouldn't fit, that's a very different load than bedlinens.
How does one skillfully describe that distinction in an instruction manual? It falls upon the user to apply common sense to observation of the results and adjust accordion. N'est-ce pas? |
Post# 641662 , Reply# 2   11/26/2012 at 02:31 (4,140 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)   |   | |
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Post# 641668 , Reply# 4   11/26/2012 at 04:47 (4,139 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Is the Miele 3033 a new model? If so, perhaps the directive to fill the tub only three-fourths full has to do with the small amount of water used in any given fill. Having said that, my ultra-low water-use Frigidaire gets filled to the very top with loads of bath linens and greatly-stained kitchen whites and everything emerges clean.
I was looking at the manual for a new front-loading Maytag or Whirlpool...or was it LG... anyway, they recommended filling the machine 3/4 full when washing permanent press-type items. |
Post# 641669 , Reply# 5   11/26/2012 at 04:55 (4,139 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)   |   | |
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I assume the new 3/4 rule applies to all sorts of cycles.
Maybe it`s because American toploaders can be used at full capacity even in the permpress and delicate cycles. It`s propably just to make things less complicated by underloading cottons a little and overloading everything else a little. I mean loading instructions can be complicated in Europe. For example some manufacturers even recommend a half load maximum for the quick cotton cycles because the machine will skip a rinse or spin. Would be nice to hear Miele`s opinion on that one, though. |
Post# 641671 , Reply# 6   11/26/2012 at 05:22 (4,139 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 641673 , Reply# 7   11/26/2012 at 06:00 (4,139 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There“s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 641677 , Reply# 8   11/26/2012 at 06:28 (4,139 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 641961 , Reply# 10   11/27/2012 at 02:24 (4,139 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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From Miele's owner's manual for the 1918 washer:
Recommended load sizes are noted below: COTTONS. . . . . . . . . . . . 11 lbs (5.0 kg) PERMANENT PRESS. . . 4.5 lbs (2.0 kg) FINE/DELICATES. . . . . . 2.0 lbs (1.0 kg) WOOLENS. . . . . . . . . . . 2.0 lbs (1.0 kg) FINE RINSE . . . . . . . . . . 4.5 lbs (5.0 kg) In other words, for most clothing, you only want to load the drum less than half full. It says nothing about fists or fractions of drum capacity by volume. But I suspect since most American laundry rooms do not have a scale, and most Americans have never weighed the washload, the load by volume approach is more practical if less accurate. |
Post# 642110 , Reply# 12   11/27/2012 at 15:11 (4,138 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 642132 , Reply# 15   11/27/2012 at 18:24 (4,138 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 643483 , Reply# 16   12/2/2012 at 15:18 (4,133 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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From the Miele owner's manual for the W1065 washer:
Loading the washing machine Unfold all the items and load them loosely into the drum without compressing. Underloading the machine is uneconomical whilst overloading will impair wash results. It is therefore advisable to load the machine to its full recommended capacity, when possible, i.e. 11 lbs. dry laundry for light or normally soiled cottons. For permanent press programs do not exceed a maximum of 3.3 lbs dry laundry (appros. 8 shirts) and approx. 2.2 lbs for delicates and woollens. Curtains: Fill the drum loosely to 1/3 capacity. |
Post# 643559 , Reply# 18   12/2/2012 at 18:57 (4,133 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There“s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 643930 , Reply# 19   12/4/2012 at 01:46 (4,132 days old) by dj-gabriele ()   |   | |
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Post# 643948 , Reply# 20   12/4/2012 at 07:30 (4,131 days old) by foxchapel ()   |   | |
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Therein lies the rub. Here in the U.S., water levels in washers are becoming smaller and smaller, due to government incentives or regulations (not sure which). |
Post# 645717 , Reply# 21   12/11/2012 at 16:33 (4,124 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There“s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Explict and direct instructions for loading would have such a word.
Rather something one read in various online and elsewhere directions for generally for loading front loading washing machines. The idea is that for most cotton loads *NOT* to cram the machine til it was packed tightly, but to leave a given amount of space at the top which one asssumes historically has proven workable. |