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Post# 643865 12/3/2012 at 21:29 (4,158 days old) by mistereric  (New Jersey (Taylor Ham)) |
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Post# 643868 , Reply# 1 12/3/2012 at 21:30 (4,158 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham)) |
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| Post# 643870 , Reply# 2 12/3/2012 at 21:31 (4,158 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
Hey Eric. | ||
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Post# 643871 , Reply# 3 12/3/2012 at 21:32 (4,158 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham)) |
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Post# 643873 , Reply# 4 12/3/2012 at 21:33 (4,158 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham)) |
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Post# 643874 , Reply# 5 12/3/2012 at 21:34 (4,158 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham)) |
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| Post# 643877 , Reply# 6 12/3/2012 at 21:36 (4,158 days old) by applianceguy47 () | ||
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Wow, I bought that washer NEW in spring of 1993, from Best Buy. | ||
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Post# 643891 , Reply# 7 12/3/2012 at 22:22 (4,158 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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Yay! | ||
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Post# 643895 , Reply# 8 12/3/2012 at 22:34 (4,158 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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You could name her "Dot"!
You'll have fun with these machines - this is only your first, there will be more. I had one growing up and that filter stream provided endless hours of washer-play. I used to fill the machine and drop gobs of dryer lint into the water just to watch it collect in the filter pan. Spinning socks in the filter pan will necessitate opening the top and retrieving one sock from the pump opening before mom gets home from work. Have fun! | ||
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Post# 643943 , Reply# 9 12/4/2012 at 06:46 (4,157 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Filter Flo is HOT! | ||
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Post# 643951 , Reply# 10 12/4/2012 at 07:38 (4,157 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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| Post# 643976 , Reply# 11 12/4/2012 at 09:51 (4,157 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481) | ||
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Post# 644005 , Reply# 12 12/4/2012 at 12:08 (4,157 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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| Post# 644012 , Reply# 13 12/4/2012 at 12:58 (4,157 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas) | ||
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If you have any dogs or cats a Filter Flo machine is invaluable in the battle against pet hair! | ||
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Post# 644014 , Reply# 14 12/4/2012 at 12:59 (4,157 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Post# 644021 , Reply# 15 12/4/2012 at 13:26 (4,157 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio) |
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water hogs | ||
| Post# 644067 , Reply# 16 12/4/2012 at 17:08 (4,157 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481) | ||
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Post# 644984 , Reply# 17 12/8/2012 at 10:39 (4,153 days old) by geoff (Cape Coral, FL) |
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Hmmmm | ||
| Post# 645430 , Reply# 18 12/10/2012 at 13:41 (4,151 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481) | ||
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Post# 645433 , Reply# 19 12/10/2012 at 13:59 (4,151 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Post# 645455 , Reply# 20 12/10/2012 at 15:58 (4,151 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut) |
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Unless you like out of control suds cake boilovers,
doubling the detergent dose on a Filter-Flo is NEVER a good idea.
The first time a repairman came to our house and pulled a sock out of the drain hole in the outer tub, he suggested we switch from FAB to a low-sudsing detergent. DASH became our family brand and remained so until P&G discontinued it. | ||
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Post# 645478 , Reply# 21 12/10/2012 at 17:09 (4,151 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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| Post# 645483 , Reply# 22 12/10/2012 at 17:38 (4,151 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481) | ||
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I've found that when you have excess suds in the load, suds build up in the filter pan and the lint and debris gets flung out over the top of the filter pan due to the washing motion. So yes detergent dosing is critical. I do however use bargain brands such as TAD and Xtra. Not exactly HE formulas. Surprisingly, they do get the wash clean and I have not had any ill effects using them in lower doses in the Neptunes.
I just can't justify the cost of Tide. 
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Post# 645644 , Reply# 23 12/11/2012 at 11:37 (4,150 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham)) |
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Yes indeed,Geoff, she followed me home from Steve's. I like the machine so far. Not sure how much water I'm using, or if I want to know. I have a straight vane agi thats stripped out, so I am looking for one for comparison's sake. Both pans, two of the mini-tubs with the lip. Would love to find one without.
The capacity and turnover is so-so, rinsing is great. I'm wondering how healthy the beast is overall... the tub leans to one side and the gentle speed is pretty noisy. | ||
| Post# 645657 , Reply# 24 12/11/2012 at 12:12 (4,150 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
Congratualtions, Eric | ||
| Post# 645684 , Reply# 25 12/11/2012 at 13:09 (4,150 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481) | ||
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Post# 645720 , Reply# 26 12/11/2012 at 16:39 (4,150 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Have Some Of That Wisk As Pictured Above In My Stash
And am here to tell you low sudsing the stuff is not. Even when used at the local coin-op laundrette the SQ front loaders have problems rinsing all the froth away.
Tried using 1/2 of a packet (product is in boxes of laundromat sized boxes) in the Whirlpool portable and even then still got tons of froth and detergent residue that two deep rinses couldn't shift. One knows this because when the loads were chucked into the spin dryer froth came out of the spigot. Tried using a small amount in the Miele and it took quite allot of defoamer to keep the suds down and even then they would creep back after awhile. | ||
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Post# 645974 , Reply# 27 12/12/2012 at 12:33 (4,149 days old) by geoff (Cape Coral, FL) |
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Hi Eric!! | ||
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Post# 645975 , Reply# 28 12/12/2012 at 12:36 (4,149 days old) by geoff (Cape Coral, FL) |
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Oh and... | ||
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Post# 645982 , Reply# 29 12/12/2012 at 13:15 (4,149 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio) |
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straight vane versus ramped I have nearly identical late 70's Filter Flo's, one with a ramped agitator, the other with the original straight vane. Frankly, I can't tell the difference in performance. Both are great at turnover with any clothing I throw at them. I admit they aren't both together in use to watch exact comparisons, but I am getting fantastic results from the straight vane, so I'll just leave the ramped one sitting un-installed as is until it is time to swap around a few machines in the working lineup. Heavy blue jeans, large blankets, full loads of towels, double bed sheets, everything seems great in either machine. | ||
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Post# 647662 , Reply# 30 12/19/2012 at 11:47 (4,142 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham)) |
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Post# 647705 , Reply# 31 12/19/2012 at 16:07 (4,142 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Gentlemen, we have the technology...........
Eric
what exactly are you looking for?......or rather which straight vane is the one your looking for?.....and I presume you need a tranny? send me an email and we'll see what we can figure out! you machine original equipment should have been a ramped activator....but anything can be changed to your liking.... | ||
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Post# 647855 , Reply# 33 12/20/2012 at 09:11 (4,141 days old) by mistereric (New Jersey (Taylor Ham)) |
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I'm not too excited about a straight vane agi. Is the wide-opening mini basket only available for the straight vane?
I'm pretty happy with the ramped agi. As for a tranny, is that what would cause the tub to index? Or is it the brake? The machine is on level floor. Was also level at Toggles' place. Sounds like this puppy needs a going-over. I made a video: CLICK HERE TO GO TO mistereric's LINK | ||
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Post# 647858 , Reply# 34 12/20/2012 at 09:31 (4,141 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio) |
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can't wait for the answers Your FF indexes differently than mine: (watch the nibs in the clothes guard to see index action)
Yours takes 2 or 3 steps clockwise, then takes same 2 or 3 steps CCW. Overall stays within some 15 degree arc, or so.
My 78 Suds---takes one small notch clockwise every agitation stroke, slowly moves around the entire circle, very slow.
My 77 FF--I never paid any attention, it's currently out of active use.
What is the cause or cure? My suds model will be back up and running today, I'll check it again. It's minor indexing, great agitation and turnover. | ||
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Post# 647863 , Reply# 35 12/20/2012 at 09:41 (4,141 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Tranny.....not a deal breaker, it will work fine with this indexing, just the banging can get on your nerves, for the most part I am gonna say its the brake, or more or less the sliding mechanism that holds the tub still is not fully engaging....I'd panic more if the tub was actually spinning while agitating....
I have a tranny that "knocks" four times when it stops spinning instead of two.....but functions fine otherwise..... the larger mini basket is available for the ramped agitator as well....I have ramped agitators as well...... and that chattering from the clutch during gentle speed is somewhat normal....just louder than regular speed....if it chatters during normal speed, then we have a problem.... keep me posted 
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Post# 647900 , Reply# 36 12/20/2012 at 12:12 (4,141 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio) |
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oh Martin | ||
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Post# 647952 , Reply# 37 12/20/2012 at 16:15 (4,141 days old) by geoff (Cape Coral, FL) |
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Eric
We always knew that the banging tub was not normal, yet it has done this for 8 or so years. You could hear it in the upstairs of Stevie's old house. We never saw it as a real problem. It does have to do with the brake. I don't think it's a real issue until it becomes a real issue if you understand what I mean. As far as the straight vain. I'm surpised. The last time I was there it worked fine. Maybe the spline has loosened. I think if that 4 vain agi was in a longer stroke machine it would have worked better..
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| Post# 648084 , Reply# 38 12/21/2012 at 05:02 (4,140 days old) by doug (West Virgina) | ||
Out of the blue question!
I just recently went to take my extra large capacity ramped agitator out of my ff and was going switch it out for a while for my heavy duty 18 straight vane activator. When i pulled the ramped agitator out, the spline pulled out of the agitator and is stuck on the tranny shaft. I had a couple loads of laundry to do yet so I didnt want to mess with it at that time and attempted to push the ramped agitator back onto its spline which is frozen onto the tranny shaft and the agitator would not go back down onto the spline because of the rubber on plastic contact. So I attempted to put some petroleum jelly on the spline and then push the agitator onto the spline and it worked. This theory worked for a couple more loads And then I had a big load in the washer and the agitator wouldn't agitate. My guess is that the petroleum jelly between the out side of the spline and the inside of the agitator is causing it to slip. I know the spline isn't stripped out. So before I done anything I wanted to get your all opinions. Are you suppose to use anything when installing a new spline in the agitator? And how could I get the frozen spline off the tranny shaft?
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| Post# 648235 , Reply# 39 12/22/2012 at 01:26 (4,140 days old) by applianceguy47 () | ||
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A hair dryer, rubber mallet, pin holes drilled for dripping liquid wrench into top of agitator... for starters. | ||
| Post# 648246 , Reply# 40 12/22/2012 at 02:19 (4,140 days old) by doug (West Virgina) | ||
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| Post# 648328 , Reply# 42 12/22/2012 at 12:12 (4,139 days old) by barcoboy (Canada) | ||
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think doug's problem is only the activator spline hub that is stuck on the transmission shaft spline, not the entire activator.
I had that happen on an old girlfriend's Filter Flo, and I was able to remove it with a propane torch, a pair of vicegrips clamped onto the hub stuck on the shaft, and a hammer to tap up on the vicegrips. Just make sure if you use a propane torch to heat, wrap a wet cloth around the rubber seal and keep it wet so that it doesn't get damaged. You might also try using a flywheel puller to pull the hub off; I didn't have one that would get underneath the hub and not slip off, so I had to use the torch and vicegrips method. | ||
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Post# 648398 , Reply# 43 12/22/2012 at 15:48 (4,139 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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tub indexing is a sign of worn brake pads inside the tranny. GE's will eventually wear to the point you get "sympathetic spin" , especially bad in the solid tub machines, as all the wash water gets spun out. tranny needs to be taken apart at some point and a new brake pad installed. The pert tub machines can get away with it more than the solid tub.
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| Post# 648519 , Reply# 44 12/23/2012 at 05:34 (4,138 days old) by doug (West Virgina) | ||
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Barcoboy | ||
| Post# 648617 , Reply# 45 12/23/2012 at 15:23 (4,138 days old) by barcoboy (Canada) | ||
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| Post# 648766 , Reply# 46 12/24/2012 at 07:40 (4,137 days old) by doug (West Virgina) | ||
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Thanks | ||
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Post# 648794 , Reply# 47 12/24/2012 at 10:50 (4,137 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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| Post# 648849 , Reply# 48 12/24/2012 at 17:19 (4,137 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA) | ||
Yes, you can get the drive block separately and save the agitator. Been there, done that. I've had to use a Dremel and cut the old frozen drive block off the shaft. Clean the threads on the trans shaft and make sure you use the new agi keeper ring that comes with the new block. As far as seating the new block in the agi, I've used Windex as a lubricant while pressing it in. People have used other stuff to lube it but can run the risk of it being too oily or degrading the rubber...
GE FF's have also been one of the washers that usually respond well to the Agi tamer when trying to pull a stuck agitator... RCD | ||
| Post# 648955 , Reply# 49 12/25/2012 at 08:50 (4,136 days old) by doug (West Virgina) | ||
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Good news! | ||
| Post# 649002 , Reply# 50 12/25/2012 at 17:03 (4,136 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481) | ||
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Post# 649118 , Reply# 51 12/26/2012 at 10:15 (4,135 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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| Post# 649188 , Reply# 52 12/26/2012 at 19:47 (4,135 days old) by doug (West Virgina) | ||
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| Post# 649190 , Reply# 53 12/26/2012 at 19:48 (4,135 days old) by doug (West Virgina) | ||
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Post# 649870 , Reply# 54 12/30/2012 at 06:41 (4,131 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Enjoy | ||
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