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Post# 654669   1/20/2013 at 11:05 (4,112 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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As the weather has been so wet over the last few months and there are now two of us in "Cassa Kerr" creating laundry, I read recent threads about heat pump dryers with interest, thinking maybe it was time to consider replacing my 10 year old and not particularly efficient Hotpoint condensor dryer.
If I can, I prefer to line dry my laundry, so I did not feel that I wanted to lay out circa £1,000 for a Miele dryer even though both my washer and dishwasher are Miele. As my dryer does not get that much useage I went for an ecomony option, although it my not be the cheapest to run, at £328 it was one third the price of a Miele |
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Post# 654670 , Reply# 1   1/20/2013 at 11:06 (4,112 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 654671 , Reply# 2   1/20/2013 at 11:08 (4,112 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 654672 , Reply# 3   1/20/2013 at 11:11 (4,112 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 654673 , Reply# 4   1/20/2013 at 11:14 (4,112 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 654674 , Reply# 5   1/20/2013 at 11:18 (4,112 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 654675 , Reply# 6   1/20/2013 at 11:21 (4,112 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 654676 , Reply# 7   1/20/2013 at 11:22 (4,112 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 654677 , Reply# 8   1/20/2013 at 11:25 (4,112 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 654678 , Reply# 9   1/20/2013 at 11:29 (4,112 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 654681 , Reply# 10   1/20/2013 at 11:55 (4,112 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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The build quality seems good for the price, maybe not up to the standard of a Miele, but pretty good. I do not care particularly for the large door but that seems to be the trend at the moment. It closes firmly and opens almost all the way back and looks easily reversible if necessary.
It also has a time delay setting on it so that I can take advantage of low cost off-peak electricity rates although I have not used that yet. I have read reviews saying this machine is noisy but I have not found it particularly so. The motor and blower seem to be about the same as my old Hotpoint although there is an overlay of condensor noise which sounds a bit like a fridge. I have also read complaints of how long it takes but having used both the Cottons amd Mix programmes it does not seem to me to take that much longer - I mainly used the old Hotpoint on low to avoid baking the clothes and hopefully minamise shrinkage. I do like the ability to select different drying levels and the ability to input the spin speed of the washing machine which reduces the drying time. It takes an 8kg load which I have a job utilising as the washer capacity is 5.5kg so it takes a guts of a couple of loads to fill it up, which means that overall the drying time can be less than with the old dryer with its smaller capacity. Overall I am pleased with the performance of the dryer, the clothes are neither as wrinkled nor as tangled as in the Hotpoint. Even with a cool down phase in the old drier the clothes do not seem so hot when the load is finished, and there seems to be a great deal less static cling as well. Two loads have included king size duvet cover, king size bottom sheets, mixed T shirts, underwear and socks and everything came out evenly dried. I did a load of towels yesterday - 2 bath sheets (very large), 3 large bath towels and about 10 assorted tea towels (this lot filled the washing machine) and again all was dried well at the "cupboard dry" cotton setting in 2 hours and 10 minutes. It will be interesting to see how it holds up on the reliabality side as it is so much more sophisticated than the old one, although the Hotpoint had to be repaired about four years ago. |
Post# 654682 , Reply# 11   1/20/2013 at 11:59 (4,112 days old) by chris74 ()   |   | |
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...a glass door? Would've been nice... |
Post# 654683 , Reply# 12   1/20/2013 at 11:59 (4,112 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 654686 , Reply# 13   1/20/2013 at 12:07 (4,112 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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It does not fit quite as well as the old Hotpoint which has a bit of a gap behind it (the worktop was 60x60cm but the actual machine did not go back that far) where the Beko uses all of its 60x60 footprint - but there may be a cable connector behind it (not for the dryer) which may be holding it out - but thats a job for another day.
Al PS The washer and dryer live in my bathroom |
Post# 654751 , Reply# 14   1/20/2013 at 16:54 (4,112 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)   |   | |
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Hey Al
Welcome to the Heat Pump club :)I must admit I could never have justified the proper price for my Miele but as I got it for less than the equivalent standard condenser I cant complain!. It actually creases less than the Electrolux condenser it replaced which I was surprised at after looking at reviews and knowing Mikes experience with the Zug,also its pretty quiet but as you say its odd hearing a compressor on a dryer!. Seamus |
Post# 654760 , Reply# 15   1/20/2013 at 17:37 (4,112 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)   |   | |
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Post# 654792 , Reply# 16   1/20/2013 at 19:11 (4,112 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 654857 , Reply# 18   1/21/2013 at 00:43 (4,112 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)   |   | |
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Post# 654860 , Reply# 19   1/21/2013 at 02:53 (4,111 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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ok may seem cheapskate but on my Miele condenser I did not use the pipe instead of the drawer tank as I have found that the condensed water is perfect to put in my steam generator iron it has no calcium to block the iron and as I always used filtered water for it cus the water here is very hard,it makes the ironing smell nice too.
Oh the reason for my saving the water from the dryer is we are on a meter and paying £50 a month so any saving is a good idea. Austin |
Post# 654867 , Reply# 20   1/21/2013 at 03:46 (4,111 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Congratulations Al heard good reviews of working performance, am amazed how they dont build a better first filter in most dryers , every heat pump dryer I`ve seen has fine dust on the secondary pre-pump filter - but you will find it much easier to clean than your existing condenser!!
Seamus, you seem to have gotten the wrong end of the stick with my reported creasing Lol, that was unique to me as a user, the dryers crease no more or less than vented or condenser - the issue I had was that I had 6 complete sets of king size heavy cotton blend bedding to wash and dry turn around after a weekend houseful!! In the Maytag I could spin them at 1600rpm and put them in the condenser dryer after 30 mins pull them out and hang straight to air or put back on the beds straight from the dryer with no creasing and no need to iron... I used this same tecnique with the Zugs but the creases didnt drop out because they where even dryer (less moisture left in) after being spun in the larger diameter Zug drum @ 1600rpm before they got to the dryer, and as there isnt any heat the Zug dryer finished drying the little moisture left in the fabric even quicker than the Maytag before the creases had time to drop out... What I had to do was spin at a lower speed to leave more moisture in this particular fabric and creasing not a problem....I was explaining the fact that we all have ways of using washers and dryers but even we have to alter some of our ways with new technology!! |
Post# 654869 , Reply# 21   1/21/2013 at 03:53 (4,111 days old) by chris74 ()   |   | |
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..not a self-cleaning condenser as our BOSCH which hasn't a second filter to clean. |
Post# 654875 , Reply# 22   1/21/2013 at 04:23 (4,111 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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@ Ronhic I am shocked that the prices are so high for you, unless your energy prices are very high it would take a long time to recover the additional cost over a conventional drier. I recall looking (more like browsing really) at this type of machine several years ago and at the time John Lewis were offering their own branded machine (Electrolux/Janussi manufacture I think) but even then it was only about £500. From my research we have a reasonable selection at various price points although this Beko is by far the cheapest, the next I could find being John Lewis at £499 (7KG) AND £599 (8KG) - both apparently Electrolux. Interestingly John Lewis only offer heat pump driers under their own brand. There were also offering a Beko (different, possibly older model) at £419. @ Seamus To be honest I have not got as far as finding out, I will have a look when I get home at the options available under manually setting the time. @ bajaespuma I am pleased you found my findings of interest, I am not entirely sure how much of a market such a drier would find in the US given that gas driers seem to be so widely used in the US, where they are pretty rare here (with few models on sale here). Are even conventional (ie non-heat pump driers) condensor driers widely available in the US? From all I have read here I suspect the main market for such a drier might be in apartments or locations where venting arrangements or where a 230V drier power supply is not readily available as the power consumption seems to be much lower - your electrical vented driers appear to have a much higher electrical loading than ours which generally have a max loading of 3000 watts, heat pump driers are considerably lower than this. @ Washer111 As I stated earlier up the thread one load in this drier is almost two loads (excepting the towels) from my washing machine so, in my case at least, the converse to what you say was true. Anyhow I am not someone who waits, ready to pounce, as soon as the drier is finished, once loaded I am happy to leave it to get on with the job and attend to it when finished. And if I use it overnight with the benefit of the "delay" setting then it is even less of an issue, I am also quite happy with my washer taking almost 3.75 hours to do a wash if I select the soak option at the start of cycle. It is all about how you organise your life to deal with the chores. I am pleased with what I percieve as improved performance over my old drier with lower running costs - its a win/win situation for me. |
Post# 654876 , Reply# 23   1/21/2013 at 04:33 (4,111 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Mike
They must be proving popular though as, when I was buying the Beko, several on-line dealers were only offering four week leadtime on delivery and I was not wanting to wait until early February.
Al |
Post# 654880 , Reply# 24   1/21/2013 at 06:17 (4,111 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 654881 , Reply# 25   1/21/2013 at 06:19 (4,111 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)   |   | |
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I have been thinking for quite a while to replace our Hotpoint ultima CTD80 with a heat pump dryer as we have endless amounts of washing and it isn't eco friendly at all. I've also considered this Beko as it is on a saving at Currys atm but the only reason it is putting me off is that it doesn't have a self cleaning condenser.
Wish other manufacturers also had a self cleaning condenser like Bosch/Siemens as it'd make life easier especially with families. Then again Bosch/Siemens don't reverse from what i've heard (correct me if i'm wrong), so that wouldn't be ideal with lots of bedding and towels to dry. Who wishes manufacturers made appliances to cater for all our needs haha? All the best with your new Beko heat pump dryer, happy drying, it sure will be needed with the current snowy days :) |
Post# 654893 , Reply# 26   1/21/2013 at 07:31 (4,111 days old) by electron1100 (England)   |   | |
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Post# 654904 , Reply# 27   1/21/2013 at 09:27 (4,111 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)   |   | |
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Post# 654947 , Reply# 28   1/21/2013 at 14:08 (4,111 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 655108 , Reply# 30   1/22/2013 at 06:31 (4,110 days old) by chris74 ()   |   | |
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You're right, the BOSCH/Siemens dryers are non-reversing which is really an issue with bedcloths. |
Post# 655145 , Reply# 31   1/22/2013 at 13:07 (4,110 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 655146 , Reply# 32   1/22/2013 at 13:08 (4,110 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 655343 , Reply# 34   1/23/2013 at 12:34 (4,109 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia)   |   | |
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Nice new toy:)
Having just done a giant leap myself from a basic, 2 heat setting , front venting dryer (which dimmed the lights of the neighbourhood when switched on - a electricity hog) to the altogether more civilised and environmentally friendly heat pump dryer it would be nice too see how you get on with it. I like the look of the smooth drum and was surprised to see only 2 paddles. I selected heat pump despite the initial cost as I love tumble dried laundry but had issues with electricity usage on both my previous vented dryer and the drying component of previous washer dryer which made things very hot whilst drying, I would always opt for the lower heat setting even on the sturdiest laundry. I find myself cleaning mine's filter after every use ( quite amazed at how much comes off the clothes each time) to keep maximum efficiency and it takes less than a minute so it's not a chore, seems to be a similar setup to your new Beko. Happy tumbling! Brendon |
Post# 656662 , Reply# 35   1/28/2013 at 23:51 (4,104 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Its going to be interesting to see over the next few years how the heat pump dryers fare, while the pump is energy saving it will be all down to the filters and filteration, I cant work out if its best to have the fine secondary filters or to have the Bosch self cleaning )but does that mean some fine dust is getting through to the exchanger and that it needs to be flushed, its the home maintenance of these parts that are going to be the longevity issue...
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Post# 657038 , Reply# 36   1/30/2013 at 14:48 (4,102 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia)   |   | |
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Here's a pic of my heat pump's er...what would I call it .."radiator" where the air first comes into contact after passing thought the 2 filters, I would have expected to see a third filter of sorts like a cloth or something, I'm not sure it is visible but there seems to be some build up on there which mostly removes with vacuum's brush attachment, hence my previous query about the self cleaning condensers ability to flush it all away. I suppose with regular flushing it should be fine. Does anyone think I could insert some sort of 3rd filter to catch more fluff? I have seen others on here have a black dense sponge like fabric filter of sorts..
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Post# 657046 , Reply# 37   1/30/2013 at 15:20 (4,102 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 657155 , Reply# 38   1/31/2013 at 03:04 (4,101 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 657157 , Reply# 39   1/31/2013 at 03:08 (4,101 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 657158 , Reply# 40   1/31/2013 at 03:10 (4,101 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Hi Brendon, can you take another picture further back or wider , I cant work out what the carrier looks like, so yours has the door filter, then a another fine filter and then the black sponge pad?
Is it me or does there appear to be more FINE POWDER RESIDUE with the heat pump dryers, or does a normal condenser somehow keep it in the water etc?? Or does the heat pump do such a good job of getting rid of all the moisture that its seperating the fine powder from the water?? Thinking about it even when the loads are dry in a condenser, the workings of the dryer are still moist or wet whereas the Heat Pump dryers appear not to be so!! |
Post# 657264 , Reply# 41   1/31/2013 at 14:17 (4,101 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 657267 , Reply# 42   1/31/2013 at 14:18 (4,101 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 657269 , Reply# 43   1/31/2013 at 14:19 (4,101 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 657271 , Reply# 44   1/31/2013 at 14:22 (4,101 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 657277 , Reply# 45   1/31/2013 at 14:33 (4,101 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 657279 , Reply# 46   1/31/2013 at 14:35 (4,101 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 657778 , Reply# 47   2/3/2013 at 03:53 (4,098 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 658637 , Reply# 48   2/7/2013 at 01:21 (4,095 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 658649 , Reply# 49   2/7/2013 at 02:30 (4,094 days old) by MikeKLondon (London)   |   | |
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Nice looking machine AL, I wish you well and look forward to an update on how you find it when you have been using it for a while, I bet you’ll find you use a lot of the programs later |
Post# 726278 , Reply# 50   1/8/2014 at 21:29 (3,759 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)   |   | |
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Sorry to rekindle an old thread!
Ive had the dryer now nearlly a year. Warranty nearly up but a question for you. When your drying bedding consting of 4 pillow cases, fitted sheet and duvet cover I find this dryer tangles them all up into a ball... Thats also ensuring that the buttons to the duvet are fastened so things don't go inside, they still roll into a big solid ball. I expect the issue is because its only got 2 drum paddles or the fact the reverse tumble only lasts literally 5 seconds before going forward again. Have you had this issue? |