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Post# 656263   1/27/2013 at 14:15 (4,099 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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It's been a while since I have had the time to work on the collection and the current unpleasant situation at work has left me less than motivated, however after scoring that lovely 57 GE dryer, I managed to drag myself up and get busy on a machine fix that would help me keep my frame of mind more upbeat. And the machine I decided to tackle first is my prized 63 GE V-12 filter-flo washer!
I got the machine last May and although in remarkable condition, I discovered a baffling leak that appeared to be coming from the transmission. I was more than a little puzzled by this.... Well, thanks to the inspection camera hubby got me for Christmas, I found that the leak was actually coming from the tub seal above the transmission. No coincidence either that even in the GE Washer Repair-Master the number cause of a water leak was suggested as the transmission boot! |
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Post# 656265 , Reply# 1   1/27/2013 at 14:18 (4,099 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Now, I have always been a little intimidated by GE machines (the trauma inflicted by the repair person who said that they'd have to break the agitator to fix an oil leak on the much-revered V-12 of my youth had stuck...).
Getting the agitator off was a non-issue on this machine, but then there was this tub boot 'collar' that had me stumped... |
Post# 656267 , Reply# 2   1/27/2013 at 14:22 (4,099 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Well, I learned that this part is not really even necessary but that if one was patient, it could be pried out with the help of a small screwdriver (and thank you again, combo52 (John), for your guidance and advice!!)
With a small screwdriver and an assist from the remote camera, I managed to free this in just a few minutes! |
Post# 656268 , Reply# 3   1/27/2013 at 14:24 (4,099 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 656269 , Reply# 4   1/27/2013 at 14:27 (4,099 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 656270 , Reply# 5   1/27/2013 at 14:29 (4,099 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 656271 , Reply# 6   1/27/2013 at 14:31 (4,099 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 656272 , Reply# 7   1/27/2013 at 14:35 (4,099 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 656273 , Reply# 8   1/27/2013 at 14:38 (4,099 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 656274 , Reply# 9   1/27/2013 at 14:39 (4,099 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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When I had been inspecting the washer with the remote camera, I had dectected another leak from the side of the tub - this opening was the apparent source. Not wanting to have to remove the tub at a later date, I gave this port as well as its twin on the other side of the tub and the drain opening a coating of high-heat silicone. Great stuff, but I had to wait 24 hours for it to cure!
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Post# 656277 , Reply# 10   1/27/2013 at 14:43 (4,099 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 656281 , Reply# 11   1/27/2013 at 14:45 (4,099 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 656285 , Reply# 12   1/27/2013 at 14:51 (4,099 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 656287 , Reply# 13   1/27/2013 at 14:54 (4,099 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 656289 , Reply# 14   1/27/2013 at 14:56 (4,099 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 656291 , Reply# 15   1/27/2013 at 14:58 (4,099 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 656292 , Reply# 16   1/27/2013 at 15:00 (4,099 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 656293 , Reply# 17   1/27/2013 at 15:01 (4,099 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 656295 , Reply# 18   1/27/2013 at 15:03 (4,099 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 656296 , Reply# 19   1/27/2013 at 15:05 (4,099 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 656297 , Reply# 20   1/27/2013 at 15:09 (4,099 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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I can't express how happy I am to have finally found a GE V-12 washer! The only thing that could be better would be the matched dryer.... Oh wait! I have it in the garage and it's already been restored! Can't wait for the weather to get better to get that into the Ogden Laundry... Think hubby will notice?? LOL
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Post# 656301 , Reply# 21   1/27/2013 at 15:24 (4,099 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 656303 , Reply# 22   1/27/2013 at 15:34 (4,099 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Yeah, I know that one. I did that after I figured out how to free the spin/agitate shifter mech on my Amp. I'm almost ashamed to admit that Dan witnessed this horrifying spectacle but still didn't care. The idea of tearing down that Amp had me worried.
Congrats on the repair. Now I want one of those cameras! RCD |
Post# 656309 , Reply# 23   1/27/2013 at 15:56 (4,099 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Post# 656314 , Reply# 24   1/27/2013 at 16:11 (4,099 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 656317 , Reply# 25   1/27/2013 at 16:25 (4,099 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 656325 , Reply# 26   1/27/2013 at 17:22 (4,099 days old) by mitch (Atlanta)   |   | |
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Looks great! |
Post# 656330 , Reply# 27   1/27/2013 at 17:37 (4,099 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)   |   | |
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Post# 656351 , Reply# 28   1/27/2013 at 18:38 (4,099 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 656363 , Reply# 29   1/27/2013 at 19:07 (4,099 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 656397 , Reply# 30   1/27/2013 at 22:08 (4,099 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 656398 , Reply# 31   1/27/2013 at 22:18 (4,099 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 656421 , Reply# 32   1/28/2013 at 00:00 (4,098 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 656446 , Reply# 33   1/28/2013 at 04:50 (4,098 days old) by Maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)   |   | |
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Nicely done, sir! Now, you need a really sheddy dog since you have a Filter-Flo. Perhaps a Bouvier des Flanders? A Golden? Some sort of a Spaniel? Lawrence/Maytagbear |
Post# 656463 , Reply# 34   1/28/2013 at 07:15 (4,098 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)   |   | |
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What a nice way to start may day! We're going to have to find for you the correct filter pan and color-coordinated mini-basket for that beautiful WA-950X.
That activator shaft base cover is truly a Mother F**ker and it takes a Houdini to remove it. I don't know any vintage GE repairmen, but I would bet there was a special tool for removing it. Even when you know how it works and have a variety of screwdrivers it is very difficult and frustrating to remove. You need to be able to bend two hard plastic tabs outward at the same time. You'd have to be a master at Olympic Eating-With-Chopsticks to do that. I don't know what the thinking was with that piece. Later in the Sixties some kind engineer in Louisville replaced the damn thing with a version with one lock-tab. Took pity on the repairmen in the field. I remember two repairmen coming to our house and removing the washbasket to remove a sock that was clogging the inner drain pipe and he seemed to pull the tub right out so he knew whatever the "trick" was.
So was I wrong: is there in fact no light bulb behind the dial on this machine? |
Post# 656530 , Reply# 36   1/28/2013 at 13:52 (4,098 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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I am puzzled......this IS a mini basket machine?......
and I am going with the ports in the outter tub for the pressure hose and filter-flo intake.....normally these would be one the bottom for the mini basket option.... otherwise it would have to add a lot of water for the mini level to function... am I wrong?....or is this a design I have not seen before?......just curious |
Post# 656626 , Reply# 37   1/28/2013 at 20:44 (4,098 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Keith, I guess you probably read about very early GE or Frigidaire automatic washers from the 1940s. The 1963 GE is a regular perforated basket washers. In the 1950s, GE also had solid tub Filter Flo washers that had one small drain hole at the bottom of the inner tub (or does one hole make it a perforated tub?). There was some water going through this hole while the washer was agitating, enough to make it to the recirculation pump.
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Post# 656651 , Reply# 38   1/28/2013 at 22:48 (4,098 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 656713 , Reply# 39   1/29/2013 at 08:34 (4,097 days old) by quincyman (Oldsmar, FL)   |   | |
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Thanks for the explanation Phil. |
Post# 656717 , Reply# 40   1/29/2013 at 08:49 (4,097 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)   |   | |
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Martin, this was 1963--the year of the great Northeast drought. Up to this year nobody on the Eastern Seaboard thought about water conservation. My Father installed a huge Carrier Central Air Conditioning unit into our new home not one year earlier just under the deadline for water-cooled units in New York City. My Uncle Herb up in New Rochelle had to run the recirculation lines for his rich parents' air conditioner into the pond in their back yard (clever man).
Paul's machine is the second year GE featured the mini-basket and it was a tiny thing that sat on the first iteration of the spiral-ramped Activator. It was designed primarily for delicate little handwashables but when the feature took off, they redesigned it to be closer to its well-known size in the middle of the 1964 model year. And yes, Filter-Flo's were water hogs. Even as a kid I thought that the "SMALL; UNDER 6" setting on the machine was a joke. Three inches less water than the full setting. With the mini-basket there was about 1/3 of a tub full of water underneath the mini-basket in the 1962 models. I'll be very interested to see Paul's video when he shows us how full his model is when he uses the setting. They had lots of problems with oversudsing on these machines anyway; when people started using the mini-baskets even with low-sudsing detergents they had no good idea how much soap to use and I don't think it was indicated yet on the undersides of the lids. Paul? Could we get a close-up? |
Post# 656727 , Reply# 41   1/29/2013 at 09:32 (4,097 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Post# 656728 , Reply# 42   1/29/2013 at 09:32 (4,097 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)   |   | |
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Post# 656827 , Reply# 43   1/29/2013 at 17:09 (4,097 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Thanks for the info Ken.......I had seen one of those tiny mini baskets once, and often wondered what the heck you could put in it......
and unique how they made the changes......and I know it may seem odd, but it seemed my Mother's V-12, like Pauls, did a better job with filtering and catching more lint, with the port on the side, compared to when it pulled water from the bottom.... another great issue I thought GE had before, as well as other solid tubs, and although lint is kept in suspension, found the overflo rinsing worked best because a majority of lint floats....there may be arguements to this.....but I am going by washing towels in a wringer, and once all the clothes were removed, to see the thick layer of lint on top.... |
Post# 656847 , Reply# 44   1/29/2013 at 17:51 (4,097 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 656891 , Reply# 45   1/29/2013 at 23:04 (4,097 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )   |   | |
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I am still learning what was made when and always surprised at some of the jewels formerly manufactured...well, with or without their flaws. But this ...is REALLY BEAUTIFUL...and I'd take one in yellow or blue...not that I'll ever find one. (and the 1960 model, of some member here, is great looking too)
CONGRATS ! wow. |
Post# 658459 , Reply# 46   2/6/2013 at 13:08 (4,089 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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In an earlier post, akronman let me know about the Jet Swirl fabric softener dispenser he had that did not fit his later GE's - well, it's on its way to Ogden (via Derby Line VT). If the stars align properly, I hope that I can pick it up next week (hubby and I are in Ottawa for 'Winterlude' with friends this weekend).
Wheee!!! I'll be posting more photos (Ken, I owe you the lid shot and the water level demos...) after next weekend. And Mark, thank you yet again! I can't wait to get the Jet-Swirl and fabric softener samples!! |
Post# 660374 , Reply# 47   2/14/2013 at 20:22 (4,081 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 660375 , Reply# 48   2/14/2013 at 20:23 (4,081 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 660376 , Reply# 49   2/14/2013 at 20:26 (4,081 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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And for anyone trying to read the writing on the dispenser, don't.... You'll get seasick... LOL
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Post# 660377 , Reply# 50   2/14/2013 at 20:27 (4,081 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Sorry for the shaky tub, but I thought it would be neat to show the dispenser as the spin starts and the fabric softener gets dispensed with!
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Post# 660383 , Reply# 51   2/14/2013 at 21:07 (4,081 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 660387 , Reply# 52   2/14/2013 at 22:09 (4,081 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)   |   | |
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Post# 660406 , Reply# 53   2/14/2013 at 23:44 (4,081 days old) by cornutt (Huntsville, AL USA)   |   | |
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Post# 660433 , Reply# 54   2/15/2013 at 04:50 (4,080 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)   |   | |
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