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Post# 656839 , Reply# 1   1/29/2013 at 17:34 (4,102 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Congratulations on getting 16 years out of that washer, you must have taken good care of it. I am not an expert on these machine but I think they were manufactured (at this time) by Hotpoint in the UK. These machines were very popular and there is an abundance of information about them, so all is not lost. Some information will help though, the primary thing is does it run on 110V or 230V? By that I mean does it plug into a regular socket or is it connected into a dryer line (supply)? If the latter then it is possible that you may be able to get parts from the UK, plenty of machine from this manufacturer will have been parted out. Is the machine totally dead? or will it fill and then not advance? If you advace the programmer by hand will the drum turn? More information could help us diagnose the problem. If we are not able to help you on this, fear not, there appear to be a variety of European sized models available in the US too. If you do not get much response here over the next couple of days (as it is buried in another thread) I suggest you make a new thread in the Deluxe forum to raise the question again. Make sure you put Creda Superspeed Washer in the title as that will alert guys here and I am sure such a thread will attract interest. good luck Al |
Post# 656845 , Reply# 3   1/29/2013 at 17:45 (4,102 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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Post# 656846 , Reply# 4   1/29/2013 at 17:49 (4,102 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)   |   | |
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Post# 656850 , Reply# 5   1/29/2013 at 17:59 (4,102 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Should take you where you need to be in terms of information.
IIRC these Creda washers are the same as Hotpoint under the hood so to speak, and as such are famous for eating up brushes at a good clip. Usually about five or six years the things need changing. Since you used your unit lightly that may have delayed things abit. Happily for you the motor on these units is mounted on top so swapping out the brushes is a pretty straight foward affair. Again instructions are all over the Internet and you can order the brushes here in the States IIRC. |
Post# 656860 , Reply# 6   1/29/2013 at 18:21 (4,102 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)   |   | |
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Post# 656921 , Reply# 7   1/30/2013 at 03:31 (4,102 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Dave
This is looking good. The reason I asked about the voltage was so as to ascertain whether UK parts would be suitable, and it sounds like they will be - a rudimentary search on ebay this moring brought up 167 matches straight off. And if you cannot get them shipped direct from the UK I am sure someone here will help out, even with shipping we are only talking a few dollars. Although it might be worth giving the place where you got the dryer belt a call first if they are still in business. Brush replacement should be fairly simple, but now comes the hard part. Can you take the dryer off the washer, remove the top from the washer and take some pictures of the motor please, as this could help with identification. Interesting that you run this off a 230V 15A line, I am guessing that it must be pretty much like UK specification with internal heater etc. Should you decide in the end to replace this machine, please do post on here that you are, as I am sure there would be other members interested in it. Al |
Post# 656924 , Reply# 8   1/30/2013 at 04:10 (4,102 days old) by fido ()   |   | |
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This video might help with checking / changing the brushes: CLICK HERE TO GO TO fido's LINK |
Post# 656926 , Reply# 9   1/30/2013 at 04:50 (4,102 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Like Miele these are straight 220v/240v machines with the only difference is that Creda washers and dryers used a three prong (NEMA 6-15) plug.
Also like Miele Creda sold an "easy install kit" (splitter box) for American use that allowed the washer and dryer to plug into one unit. The plug on the splitter box's cord however was the four prong 120v/220v 30 amp type same as Miele's washers and dryers sold in North America. One assumes Creda marketed these easy install kits to homes where the outlets/wiring had been upgraded to the new code standard of four prong "dryer" plugs. Unless there is some type of inverter inside the Creda units sold here the motor, pump and electronics must have been made for 208v-240v at 60hz. Or maybe the motor and pump ran at 60hz and there is an inverter for the electronics. There are one or two places in the USA that still sell Creda appliance parts including those for washers and dryers. A member has a Creda set and orders brushes and so forth from these sources all the time. Creda company itself pulled up stakes and closed their North American offices awhile ago. However if one requires product/customer support that the aforementioned sources cannot supply Hotpoint/Ariston in the UK (the current owners of Creda) are glad to supply. Given the time difference unless one is an early riser it might be best to use email via their website than telephoning. Could be wrong but one thinks the top of the washing machine is removed as part of the stacking, or maybe this is optional. This post was last edited 01/30/2013 at 05:46 |
Post# 656930 , Reply# 10   1/30/2013 at 05:29 (4,102 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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There is a place in Texas where I order parts. They are very nice people. I will make a note to look up the number and post it when I get home. |
Post# 656932 , Reply# 11   1/30/2013 at 05:46 (4,102 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)   |   | |
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Post# 656987 , Reply# 14   1/30/2013 at 11:14 (4,102 days old) by username ()   |   | |
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I was able to tip the dryer forward just enough to grab a shot of the motor id plate (luckily it is on top of the motor) Will this be enough to determine the type of brush I need? Thank you! Dave (username) |
Post# 657016 , Reply# 16   1/30/2013 at 13:09 (4,102 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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All the guy in TX will want is the model # if you just need the brushes. I can't get over how long your brushes have lasted. My machine needed them about every three years when I was using it more. |
Post# 657070 , Reply# 18   1/30/2013 at 17:14 (4,101 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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Actually, it's Arizona. The phone# for the Creda Service Center is 800-800-2733. That is not one of my typos. It's 800 twice, like New York, New York. |
Post# 657080 , Reply# 19   1/30/2013 at 17:44 (4,101 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 657128 , Reply# 20   1/31/2013 at 00:14 (4,101 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)   |   | |
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On the tag pictured-the machine has an electronic speed controller-so the incoming frequency shouldn't make a diffrence.And a brush type universal motor is not frequency critical.It should work on 50/60 hz. |
Post# 657139 , Reply# 21   1/31/2013 at 01:14 (4,101 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 657147 , Reply# 22   1/31/2013 at 02:10 (4,101 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Wow, great looking set you have, and yes look after them and they hopefully will last, a wealth of information exists, I`ll scan the service manual onto this thread at the weekend...
Really pleased that Creda made it to the US, the UK`s exporting at its best, I knew Tom had one but always thought it was by someone emigrating etc or a forces transfer. Creda where the workhorses of UK laundry having the first Spin Dryers and the first reverse action tumble dryers....by the end of the series other brands where slightly more reliable but you have shown with good care that yours is a winner, good luck with the brushes.. Most of our machines are 13 amp, it might have pulled that to the limit using the heater on peak full power heater, the heater is usually 2.6kw and the motor 500w giving around 3k max.....How many times a week do you use it? and what is the main wash programme you use?? |
Post# 657161 , Reply# 23   1/31/2013 at 03:39 (4,101 days old) by fido ()   |   | |
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I think the 15 amps mentioned is the supply current, not what the machine uses. It would not be more than 13 amps. |
Post# 657167 , Reply# 24   1/31/2013 at 04:40 (4,101 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Oh yes, they were sold here though the distribution may not have been widespread.
In NYC remember seeing Creda washers and dryers quite often in many appliance dealers both upscale and low. IIR Consumer Reports may have even reviewed one or both, am not sure. Creda Inc, as the United States arm was called began receiving inported appliances in 1986. ADCO was their dancing partner on this side of the pond then and still is today. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Launderess's LINK |
Post# 657194 , Reply# 26   1/31/2013 at 10:32 (4,101 days old) by username ()   |   | |
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From my user manual : Supply voltage - 240V 60Hz Heating Element - 2220 watts Electric Motor - 200 watts max Total maximum watts - 2800 watts Total maximum current - 12 amps |
Post# 657325 , Reply# 28   1/31/2013 at 17:19 (4,100 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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With such a powerful heating elements why Creda washers do the "tumble and pause" song and dance during the heat portion of wash cycles.
Miele 1000 series washers have 2100w heating elements and seem to have no problem with a normal if not somewhat different tumble pattern during the heating portion of wash cycle. This even where at least two models hold nearly 13lbs of wash. |
Post# 657363 , Reply# 29   1/31/2013 at 22:25 (4,100 days old) by username ()   |   | |
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Well, here's the washer with the top off, and brushes removed. The brush from the drum side of the motor was split along its length. Should have new brushes in ten days or so, the I can try it out! |
Post# 658466 , Reply# 31   2/6/2013 at 13:52 (4,095 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 660693 , Reply# 34   2/16/2013 at 15:40 (4,085 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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On a successful repair, I hope you get many more years service from this machine.
It was so good that you raised the question in the first place as I, for one, learned a lot. If you should have any problems again, or if you decide that it is time to move on to a new set, please call back here again, I am sure there are US members who would be pleased to collect them. But again, I hope its a long time before that happens Al |
Post# 660759 , Reply# 36   2/17/2013 at 08:10 (4,084 days old) by fido ()   |   | |
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I'm glad you found the YouTube video helpful. I personally find these instructional videos very handy when trying to advise people about repair jobs. |
Post# 663727 , Reply# 37   3/4/2013 at 01:20 (4,069 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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