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Post# 661431   2/21/2013 at 09:44 (4,053 days old) by brummybear (Birmingham uk)        

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Hi all, My LG 11kg has got dementia ! Its 4 years old and it can no longer decide which way it should tumble.

Its supported to rock back and forth then tumble followed my a brief spin. Instead it sort of judders a bit then tumbles while juddering But its spins fine!

I call LG who inform me that its £130 to walk through the door. I informed them I could get a new washer for that at Argos. I don't have that sort of money.

I no longer think its worth while buying a high end washer when the repairs are so steep.





Post# 661436 , Reply# 1   2/21/2013 at 10:18 (4,053 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        
What a Miracle

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You found someone that would be willing to work on an LG?



Post# 661442 , Reply# 2   2/21/2013 at 10:53 (4,053 days old) by fido ()        

You would be better calling a local independent repairer who will probably have a call-out charge of about £40.

Post# 661475 , Reply# 3   2/21/2013 at 14:26 (4,053 days old) by dave886 (united kingdom)        

oh man this made me laugh, have you ever thought of taking out a insurance, it will be a lot cheaper.

Post# 661584 , Reply# 4   2/22/2013 at 02:36 (4,053 days old) by dj-Gabriele ()        
I no longer think its worth while buying a high end washer w

That's not correct, it's just not worth spending money on Cino-Korean crap machine as they're hugely overpriced and just as UNreliable as they are!
Stick with ANY European brand and you'll have much lower labour, call and parts costs! (Not to mention reliability! Even a low end Candy will be better!)


Post# 661587 , Reply# 5   2/22/2013 at 04:12 (4,053 days old) by brummybear (Birmingham uk)        
£40

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Local repair man coming today at 2pm £40 to walk through the door but free if he fixes the machine. I will keep you posted.

The hart foundation shop up the road is selling a reconditiond 7kg Bosh Maxx for £130 what do you guys think?


Post# 661644 , Reply# 6   2/22/2013 at 11:12 (4,052 days old) by brummybear (Birmingham uk)        
Frayed

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Well he found the problem, a frayed ribbon wire, he had not got one but should do in a few days. He hopes it has not buggerd the motor board up as its a sealed unit and not fixable you have to replace the whole thing.

Post# 662522 , Reply# 7   2/26/2013 at 04:44 (4,049 days old) by brummybear (Birmingham uk)        
Will it live?

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Theres a full load of towels and so far so good. Total cost £75 Barr Humbug to LG.

Post# 662552 , Reply# 8   2/26/2013 at 10:00 (4,048 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
lessons learnt?

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So what has been the total cost of this machine including purchase price and all the repairs you have had to pay for over the years?

And can you honestly say hand on heart that EVERY cotton wash you have washed in it has been 11kg?

The fact you seemed open to a 7kg Bosch tells me that the capacity is not an issue and probably never will be.

Ignore the advice to take out insurance. YOU SHOULDNT HAVE TO. What is already an expensive machine should have some reasonable life expectancy because the extra drum capacity certainly does not cost the extra £200 odd compared to the 6/7/8kg models.



Post# 662558 , Reply# 9   2/26/2013 at 10:46 (4,048 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)        
Its 4 years old

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That's funny, because my best friends 4 year old £210 Beko is still going strong, despite washing for 2 adults and 2 kids on a regular basis - it has never missed a beat.

LG have always been vastly overpriced and overhyped. If you're going to buy an expensive machine, choose the machine carefully. As stated above, stick with European brands like Miele, Siemens/Bosch, AEG, V-Zug, Gorenje etc if you're splashing out for an expensive machine. Most of these brands come with warranties and guaruntee's (I got 10 years with my Miele) so you're covered.


Post# 662584 , Reply# 10   2/26/2013 at 13:42 (4,048 days old) by brummybear (Birmingham uk)        
Cost

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It cost £800 and so far about £225 in repairs,

When we first got it there were 8 adults of us living in the house 5 women 3 men and 3 children. The machine never stopped to be honest it worked its ass off. I honestly thort a 12kg machine costing £800 would work out well, and it was before I became a member of this great community.

People moved out and now there are 4 of us and a 12kg is no longer necessary but it dose go on about 3 times a week and 80% of that is full ( we discovered that a small load was a no no as balancing was a problem). LG did replace the machine once after a big rant at them because of the balancing problem)

It currently seems ok and is busy catching up.


Post# 662585 , Reply# 11   2/26/2013 at 13:47 (4,048 days old) by brummybear (Birmingham uk)        
foot note

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My two hotpoint toploders both well in the 20s are still working with only minor reapirs.

Post# 662605 , Reply# 12   2/26/2013 at 15:28 (4,048 days old) by dj-Gabriele ()        
I totally second what bummybear said about reliability!

I have an wonderful Candy Washer dryer that is exacty my age and the only repair so far was a new motor capacitor and dryer fan! (30€ in 27 years!)
I must say I only changed the boot because I felt like I wanted a new one! (PS: Candy has ALL the spare parts of such an old machine 27 years later...)
Compare this to LG that keeps spares only for 8 years (said to me by a respectable member and technician of that brand!) and draw your conclusions! (Samsung and some Electrolux brands are even worse I've been told!)


Post# 663915 , Reply# 13   3/5/2013 at 03:38 (4,042 days old) by brummybear (Birmingham uk)        
What do I do?

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It Coughed up blood and died on Friday! It sat there dead as a Dodo. The repair guy came Saturday and tinkered with it and concluded ( as I did) that the main control board was the problem costing £115

The question is. Do I A cut my loses on this machine ( £800 New) and buy one from the charity shop?

Or B fix this pile of dog mess?

Heres a pic of the old lady showing the whipper snapper how its done.


Post# 663917 , Reply# 14   3/5/2013 at 03:51 (4,042 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
Or C

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sell it on for spares and use a toploader :o)

Austin


Post# 663918 , Reply# 15   3/5/2013 at 03:51 (4,042 days old) by brummybear (Birmingham uk)        
Another pic.

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And another

Post# 663922 , Reply# 16   3/5/2013 at 05:43 (4,042 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        
The old Hotpoint top loader is charming!

But rest assured that one wash in the top loader will cost you like ten on any front loader, but you should put the "ohhh" effect in consideration then!

Otherwise as you said a machine from the charity shop could be an interesting idea too! Go vintage if you feel like it! ;)

And anything is better than LG for sure! :O


Post# 664024 , Reply# 17   3/5/2013 at 16:34 (4,041 days old) by SuperElectronic (London, UK)        
10 times as much?

...now then, let's not exaggerate! When tested for the energy label, apparently consumption was 170l water and 3.84 kwh electricity for a 4.5kg load on 60C cottons. Give the old lady her dues: it's more like only 4 times more expensive. And I don't think it needs 4 times as much detergent; the last recommendation was just double the quantity. Why, she's positively miserly in operation!!

 

OK, tongue out of cheek now...I know which one I'd prefer in my kitchen despite the water hog tendencies, even without its console...but I am an obsessive fan! Apologies for going off on a tangent here but I have a request: after pouring over your profile pic, Brummybear, I really want to know how wide and deep the wash bowl in the HPTL actually is. By sight, it doesn't seem any bigger than in the Supermatic twin tubs yet is supposed to manage an extra 3lbs of clothes. And how wide is the bowl/tub gap? It's an odd request but I might as well ask just in case you're feeling generous.

 

As to the LG, well...I suppose the questions are: (1) do you like it when it works; (2) how much do you mind the thought of the waste in throwing it out and (3) would getting shot of it be more cathartic than trying to do the "good" thing of keeping it going?


Post# 664051 , Reply# 18   3/5/2013 at 18:00 (4,041 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

Oh gosh!
That's 70 litres of water and 2,2 kWh more than my old Candy for the same cycle! (and it's rated 5 kg vs 4,5!) Those machines were hogs even 30 years ago! :/

Still adds to the "wow" effect if you tell somebody ;)

Why don't you get a nice Gorenje machine if you're going for something new? Or a wonderful SMEG W/D with 5 years warranty on everything?


Post# 664153 , Reply# 19   3/6/2013 at 08:15 (4,040 days old) by brummybear (Birmingham uk)        
Video and dimenshions

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The depth of the tub is 36cm and the width of the drum is 34cm. Because its such a hog with the water especially heating it I cheat a little. I turn it to program 1 and that it fill with hot tap water witch is gas and considerably cheaper than electric. Then I turn to program 5 witch is 40c and I dont have to heat the water.

I would love a new control panel for it but they rarely turn up.

I have included a littel vid of my phone for the fun of it. :)


CLICK HERE TO GO TO brummybear's LINK


Post# 664162 , Reply# 20   3/6/2013 at 09:24 (4,040 days old) by Xanx22 ()        
Hotpoint Toploader

Many years ago I had one of those Hotpoint top loaders purchased second hand when I was a student. It was a deluxe model with variable thermostat which was faulty so would not shut off the heater so we used it manually selecting a temp and once water was hot enough turned it to cold and then the wash cycle would continue.
Anyhow on my model it had an Economy setting which meant it filled with the hot water but the heater stayed switched off. Being about 20yrs ago I don't know if there was a thermostatic mixing valve which would control the hot / cold water mix dependant on the cycle or not. Anyhow the point being is that the economy setting maybe better than playing with the cycles.
Euan


Post# 664164 , Reply# 21   3/6/2013 at 09:27 (4,040 days old) by brummybear (Birmingham uk)        
Not there :(

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Unfortunately this model did not have the eco button!

I don't have the funds for a new one and I may sell the LG as sparers and repair.

The hart Foundation charity shop has a nice bosh max for £140 I may get that.


Post# 664191 , Reply# 22   3/6/2013 at 12:52 (4,040 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
Ebay

Hi Eean.

There is a hotpoint top loader on ebay at moment, think in Warrickshire area. I still have my 1509, but may have to sell a few of my collection.

Paul


Post# 664217 , Reply# 23   3/6/2013 at 14:35 (4,040 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        
Console

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Hi Eean

I would sort out the toploader if I were you. They are such good machines and so fast at a wash. There is a new console available for your TL on this link www.buyspares.co.uk/console-panel....

I've been sorting out my two 9605's over the last few weekends - will do a thread on it soon - and have both of them working now. They are so easy to work on if you can get the parts but they are heavy on the water and power. I've got solar hot water panels which helps and my machines have the economy switch that turns off the heater. Your model washes at approx 10 deg C less than the programme selected unless you push the super wash button so it does try to save energy.

Here's a pic of mine from the weekend

S


Post# 664228 , Reply# 24   3/6/2013 at 15:17 (4,040 days old) by brummybear (Birmingham uk)        
Loverly

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Thos are lovely machines, and thank you for the link.

I Have been after a Hot point twin-tub but they end up well out side what I can afford, sometimes going for moor than they were new.


Post# 664233 , Reply# 25   3/6/2013 at 15:37 (4,040 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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The prices some of the stuff goes for is crazy but then there are others that seem to slip through the net. There was one hotpoint twin tub on eBay recently that went for £280!! While there was another that went for £6. If you can travel to get one then you could pick up a bargain.

I bought a Hoovermatic twin tub from a guy that was also selling two Hotpoint twin tubs. He keeps trying to sell them now in Middlesex. Can pass on his details if you are interested.


Post# 664242 , Reply# 26   3/6/2013 at 17:07 (4,040 days old) by SuperElectronic (London, UK)        
Thank you!

Brummybear - many thanks for being so obliging and for posting a video clip! But 34cm wide? Really? That's tiny! Is that just the top opening? I would have thought the bowl's diameter would have been at least 40cm and hopefully more. The whole point of this is that I'm really trying to work out the volume of the bowl on a quest to compare it against a front loader and whether really it could actually wash its stated capacity load. Part of that stems from my memories of my Aunt's 9600 which was stuffed full to the point that clothes barely moved a centimetre in either direction during the wash...but was this maybe how it was supposed to work? I have to say I much prefer the thorough movement your wash load was getting! Oh, and Bosch Maxx - not far off being the modern equivalent of a Hotpoint front loader of the 80s and 90s in my opinion, or at least in a similar vein. It won't do anything exciting but the fact they're heavily represented in the reconditioned machines shops probably says something for their overall potential.

 

Xanx22 - you must have had a later 15-series machine with controls more akin to a twintub: select the heat and wash time using the two knobs either side of the timeline. I've read the manuals and these did not have thermostatic mixers: what you got was hot and cold fill on all settings except cold. Pressing the economy button gave you hot fill only, suitable for programmes 1, 2 and 3 (and maybe 4 if you were careful to flip the switch mid-way through filling).

 

Steve - roll on your big reveal is all I can say! I'm green with envy, just as with everyone else who's acquired a HPTL over the years I've been on here; the hope of having my own hasn't died quite yet... 

 

Alex

 



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