Thread Number: 45186
A couple of UK built Hoover F/L's here in Oz |
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Post# 662010   2/24/2013 at 02:27 (4,073 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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I already mentioned these to Chestermike and Chris here in Oz. I managed to bring home 2 UK built Hoover front loader's from an old washer repairer here in Brisbane. He has 6 front load Hoover's in total and Nathan and I will end up with all them between us more than likely.
This first one is a Hoover 455 Model A3072. I've only done a quick spin test of this machine and it works, will do a proper test soon. Cheers Leon |
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Post# 662011 , Reply# 1   2/24/2013 at 02:30 (4,073 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 662012 , Reply# 2   2/24/2013 at 02:33 (4,073 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 662013 , Reply# 3   2/24/2013 at 02:35 (4,073 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 662014 , Reply# 4   2/24/2013 at 02:38 (4,073 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 662015 , Reply# 5   2/24/2013 at 02:40 (4,073 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 662016 , Reply# 6   2/24/2013 at 02:44 (4,073 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 662017 , Reply# 7   2/24/2013 at 02:46 (4,073 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 662019 , Reply# 8   2/24/2013 at 03:17 (4,073 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)   |   | |
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Great stuff Leon.
About the door seal, I think you'll find that any Hoover door seal from a Zodiac or Electra will fit either machine. I'd be willing to bet some of my private parts on it! CLICK HERE TO GO TO ronhic's LINK on eBay |
Post# 662025 , Reply# 9   2/24/2013 at 05:10 (4,073 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Congratulations Leon on your latest finds, its certainly turning up trumps with classic gems!!, the Hoover 455 is based on the 1970`s Hoover Matchbox range, a simple hot and cold fill, 740rpm spin and a 9lb washload, vitreous enamel drum inside and out,looks like it has the later control time from the electronic series though, interesting!!
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Post# 662026 , Reply# 10   2/24/2013 at 05:12 (4,073 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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are still available here, a little cheaper than the ones listed, there are many spares here still for the range...
CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK on eBay |
Post# 662027 , Reply# 11   2/24/2013 at 05:28 (4,073 days old) by electron1100 (England)   |   | |
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well done on getting two excellent machines from Hoover, the 3072 looks great in those colours, and of course the excellent 3060 both classic Hoover machines.
Suspension kits,Door boots (make sure you get the proud door model boot), pumps are all easily available over here. The only difference with the 3060 doorboot is it will be grey and not black unless you are lucky to find some from a spares shop out there in Australia You will have fun using these beauties Congratulations Gary |
Post# 662028 , Reply# 12   2/24/2013 at 05:38 (4,073 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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was the first Hoover washing machines with the fast 1100rpm spin in 1978, it was the fastest of the era in front loaders from here...a great machine, many still in working condition, in fact Jon Lavamat picked one up last week from original ownerner and still in daily use!!
It has the 3 seperate spin speeds for fabric types 500rpm for delicates, 800rpm for woollens and 1100rpm for fats drying of cottens / towels etc... |
Post# 662029 , Reply# 13   2/24/2013 at 05:50 (4,073 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 662030 , Reply# 14   2/24/2013 at 06:31 (4,073 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 662031 , Reply# 15   2/24/2013 at 06:41 (4,073 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Although I think that I have seen the 455 style panel on machines here (exclusives - need Paul to confirm on that) it looks like the 455 was made specifically for Australia as it has a lower rated heater in accordance with Aus 10amp sockets. Made in February 1977 as well, long after the the "matchbox" series had been superceeded. It would be interesting to know if it has the earlier programming of that current in 1977.
I wonder if the 3060 was taken out by someone emigrating, as it would need 13amp supply, made on Feb 1979 - 2 years after the 455 Great finds! Al |
Post# 662037 , Reply# 16   2/24/2013 at 07:35 (4,073 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Al by the date of manufacture for Aus, it looks like the morphing of the matchbox series fascia and vitreous drum / innards etc with the timer of the electronic 800 series...wonder if they where using up additional supplies before full production in 75 of the silver electronic 800`s?
Heres a pic from (Calling Matchbox!!) Pauls library of the matchbox styling and fascia!! |
Post# 662039 , Reply# 17   2/24/2013 at 08:31 (4,072 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 662040 , Reply# 18   2/24/2013 at 08:40 (4,072 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 662113 , Reply# 19   2/24/2013 at 16:45 (4,072 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)   |   | |
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Post# 662320 , Reply# 21   2/25/2013 at 11:28 (4,071 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Early 70s enamel colour favoured speckly blue .... |
Post# 662322 , Reply# 23   2/25/2013 at 11:35 (4,071 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Under the lid of the 3236H.... |
Post# 662323 , Reply# 24   2/25/2013 at 11:37 (4,071 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Again for comparison with the 455, here is the UK 3236H's ratings plate.... |
Post# 662326 , Reply# 26   2/25/2013 at 11:44 (4,071 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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....though there is this export version A3236, which I think went to Scandinavia. This machine is a preserved example and there are youtube videos of it - I think its owned by Timon90, whose photograph is below.... |
Post# 662327 , Reply# 27   2/25/2013 at 11:46 (4,071 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Had the 455 had a matching dryer, it would probably have looked like this South African Matchbox dryer .... |
Post# 662406 , Reply# 30   2/25/2013 at 15:17 (4,071 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Hey Paul
Great photo's! Love them! You are correct regarding the wide body Keymatics brought to Australia for evaluation. I have actually chatted to 'Meadowbank' in the past, he was actually a Hoover engineer who worked for the company for 20 years before being made redundant when the Hoover was bought out by 'Email', the company that made Simpson here in Australia at one time. He told me those wide bodied Keymatics would be a very rare find now, if they still exist at all! He also mentioned that Hoover Australia was working on a prototype of a 10kg slant front front loader similar to the Maytag Neptune. However, it never went into production after Email took over the company and i'm sure pretty sure he said the prototype was destroyed. My contact here still has one more 455, one 465 and 2 Zodiac 12's, so i should be able to get model numbers for you once we get them back home. Cheers Leon |
Post# 662515 , Reply# 32   2/26/2013 at 03:33 (4,071 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Here is the thread that Paul and Leon where talking about, detailing "Meadowbank" it started with Garys first Keymatic and built up to include details from UK and Australia.....fantastic detail built up by everyone!!
CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK |
Post# 662516 , Reply# 33   2/26/2013 at 03:44 (4,071 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Australian keymatic/frontloader history.
"I watch this site occasionally and can help answer some of the questions that have been asked about Australian made machines, I would also like to ask some questions as well. The Australian produced slant front Keymatic was withdrawn from the market due to falling sales caused by reliability problems, bearing failure mainly. The problem was fixed towards the end but it was too late to revive the sales (this was before my time so I am only repeating what I was told). In the mid to late 1960’s four wide cabinet Keymatic were imported from the UK for evaluation, two 3203H’s and two 3223H’s. (possibly at different times, were these in production at the same time?). Management had doubts about their reliability so no more were imported. At this time the company had its hands full setting up production of a large top loading automatic based on a design from the Blackstone company in the U.S. this was called the 500 series, see mayfan’s collection for a picture of one. The four Keymatics sat in a storage area until the late 70s and were then sold. I bought one, a 3203, and later acquired one of the 3206’s for spares. Both eventually failed in the key programming mechanism and were scrapped. I still have some parts, motors, hoses etc. which I would be happy to part with for nothing, but the transport costs would have to be paid. When I pulled them apart I was able to compare the drum sizes with a later front loader and there was not a lot of difference, the Keymatic drum was only slightly larger in diameter. When the matchbox (where does this name come from?) models became available the 3236H model was imported and sold in Aust. This was replaced by the black facia 3072 when this became available. (Why are the numbers out of order?) This machine was sold with the marketing number of 455 and the later Australian models followed this numbering sequence. In about 1977 it was decided to setup for production of front loaders in Aust. Twenty 3072’s were set aside and their major parts numbered, they were fitted with a timer with locally derived programs- no prewash, shorter wash times and a modified heater sequence. The graphics on the control panel were made to resemble a top loader because the UK system was more suited to the garment labelling system used there but not used in Aust. Other locally sourced parts were fitted where available and a screw was put into the draw assembly to make it unusable, the first Australian models were to have no draw as it was too expensive. The company was not making any money from the imported machines so the local production had to be cost reduced. Of the twenty ‘prototype’ machines number 4 is still in everyday use but it has been updated with a stainless inner and outer tub from a later machine. The first Australian machine was the 465 / A3086 heater model, the 5 in the 465 denoting the heater. All production machines start with serial number 10,001, and preproduction or trial run machines start at 9800, I had number 10, 001 for some time but it was sold which I now regret. The new machine sold reasonably well but many people requested a model without a heater so the model 460 was introduced some months later, from memory this was to become the most popular model. The subsequent models have been described earlier in this thread. The machine was finally withdrawn from production because of tooling costs, the dies for the tub backplate and the door glass had become unusable and the cost to replace them was not justifiable on the quantities of machines being sold. I hope this helps fill in a few gaps and is of interest. MB." |
Post# 664962 , Reply# 34   3/10/2013 at 19:21 (4,058 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 664981 , Reply# 35   3/10/2013 at 21:16 (4,058 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Hi Mike
Yes, i did a video and it;s on my Youtube channel, i just haven't had time to post the link as yet. A leak from the boot and from the pump and its a little 'squeaky', but overall, it completed the cycle fine. By the way, i'll be getting 2 Wilkins machines in the next few weeks: a Maytag clone 401 with heater and a 32T push button TT, not sure if its a heater model not. Unfortunately, the Mark72 pair will have to wait a little longer. Cheers Leon |
Post# 665390 , Reply# 36   3/12/2013 at 12:20 (4,056 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 667577 , Reply# 37   3/22/2013 at 01:43 (4,047 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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