Thread Number: 45203
A 2nd dose of Matchbox from the weekend - 3243H Keymatic De Luxe!!! |
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Post# 662356 , Reply# 3   2/25/2013 at 13:18 (4,049 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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As with all vintage 70's hoovers and just like the two discoveries in Australia, we need a new door seal, with the original having turned to sticky, molten rubber ... |
Post# 662357 , Reply# 4   2/25/2013 at 13:20 (4,049 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Back removed and there is a slightly non-standard feature on this machine, visible in this photo.... |
Post# 662358 , Reply# 5   2/25/2013 at 13:21 (4,049 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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The machine dates from March 1974... |
Post# 662360 , Reply# 6   2/25/2013 at 13:23 (4,049 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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making it two months older than the matching 3022 dryer de luxe we have, which I hope the 3243H will meet in the summer... |
Post# 662361 , Reply# 7   2/25/2013 at 13:28 (4,049 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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A few wires attached - note that MTH925 is shown here.... |
Post# 662362 , Reply# 8   2/25/2013 at 13:29 (4,049 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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and yet MTH923 is shown here .... |
Post# 662364 , Reply# 9   2/25/2013 at 13:30 (4,049 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Wiring diagrams! |
Post# 662365 , Reply# 10   2/25/2013 at 13:31 (4,049 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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I wish I took after my dad and understood electronics - little gizmo here with a glass fuse... |
Post# 662366 , Reply# 11   2/25/2013 at 13:32 (4,049 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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To the pressure switch ... |
Post# 662370 , Reply# 13   2/25/2013 at 13:40 (4,049 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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To the three compartment dispenser, with fabric conditioner feature that only appeared on the Keymatic in the Matchbox range .... |
Post# 662373 , Reply# 15   2/25/2013 at 13:46 (4,049 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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the back of the mystery switch. The second wire also heads downwards before doubling back and joining the bunch of wires in the right part of the photograph .... |
Post# 662375 , Reply# 16   2/25/2013 at 13:48 (4,049 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)   |   | |
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is the transformer which powers the low voltage lights on the facia to indicate wash progress. No leds back then. Now how long do we have to wait for the full frontal shot? mathew |
Post# 662376 , Reply# 17   2/25/2013 at 13:48 (4,049 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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spot the problem with the positioning of this switch ................. so, if it has to stay, it will have to be moved elsewhere.... |
Post# 662382 , Reply# 19   2/25/2013 at 13:56 (4,049 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)   |   | |
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Just LOVE Keymatics! So happy you got a machine that was on your list for so long, I had a similar experience a few weeks back, scroll down a bit and you will find my thread. James. |
Post# 662391 , Reply# 20   2/25/2013 at 14:23 (4,049 days old) by electron1100 (England)   |   | |
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Argh Paul this is such excellent news, yes that switch is defo an attempt to manually control the heater, the other wires should be easy to locate on the programer, from the diagram.
His idea of leaving the tub exhaust pipe dangling is fine unles you intend doing a boil wash, coz you will fill the machine with steam.......... Well as you know already know these are wonderful looking and performing machines, Mat insists that i can have mine back any time, but everytine i ring him i get some chinese take away in belfast?. Paul thanks for opening this thread, you know mat or i can help you out so your in safe hands trust us we are not meat product producers Gary You get used to the grey door boots |
Post# 662393 , Reply# 22   2/25/2013 at 14:33 (4,049 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)   |   | |
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prawn crackers, spring rolls and what, non fast coloureds was it. I'm sure you'd be much happier with the computor control 1100. Mathew |
Post# 662395 , Reply# 23   2/25/2013 at 14:44 (4,049 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Cheers james. Great news on the WD23P - all nice and white too! Paul |
Post# 662400 , Reply# 25   2/25/2013 at 15:05 (4,049 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 662402 , Reply# 26   2/25/2013 at 15:08 (4,049 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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To Gary, he needs the "E" to work on his shell suites , trackies and sweats......Lol
Paul, well done on getting the Keymatic, looks in fine fettle after all the polishing, interesting set up with the switch, have you heard if the previous owner did fit the switch or I wonder if it was a retro fit from Hoover Service etc to do with hot / cold / mix fill, although its a bit of a pain round the back if under a worktop...need to check the updates manual as I seem to remember reading about a lot of fixes and superceeding of timers.. |
Post# 662404 , Reply# 27   2/25/2013 at 15:13 (4,049 days old) by electron1100 (England)   |   | |
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Arghh it looks lovely Paul
Yeah maybe at Mats, i need to go and collect the spares (BTW not the computer 1100) that Mat accidently removed from the garage when he was helping tidy it up, the norty little pixie so when we can get together ill rent an ambulance to bring me up and you two can take me out and push the bath chair |
Post# 662409 , Reply# 28   2/25/2013 at 15:26 (4,049 days old) by electron1100 (England)   |   | |
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Aww mike how can you say that program E does all my stuff, but i have to admit those leggins you wore when we went out and then you left under the bed when you were last here, i could see why you had left them but after a few boil washes and some colour bleach i got the seat staines out, see :-)
It seems a shame to throw them because of a few stains and they fit you perfectly |
Post# 662411 , Reply# 30   2/25/2013 at 15:29 (4,049 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Bloody hell! just refreshed my page, Gary :-) |
Post# 662413 , Reply# 31   2/25/2013 at 15:32 (4,049 days old) by electron1100 (England)   |   | |
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Post# 662415 , Reply# 32   2/25/2013 at 15:33 (4,049 days old) by electron1100 (England)   |   | |
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Post# 662416 , Reply# 33   2/25/2013 at 15:35 (4,049 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 662418 , Reply# 35   2/25/2013 at 15:39 (4,049 days old) by electron1100 (England)   |   | |
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Post# 662419 , Reply# 36   2/25/2013 at 15:40 (4,049 days old) by electron1100 (England)   |   | |
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Post# 662588 , Reply# 37   2/26/2013 at 13:51 (4,048 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)   |   | |
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Paul, congratulation on a superb machine.
This last weekend while concluding an adoption in Cardiff I was introduced and totally blown away by Mathew’s “cough cough Jill Yuen King Prawn” Keymatic and have been absolutely converted to HOOVER. I just could not stop watching this fine machine at work and the sound of the spin, sweet just sweet. Thank you Mathew for a marvellous Hoover introduction. More on the adoption in the future. Stunning machine absolutely stunning, Lee |
Post# 662593 , Reply# 38   2/26/2013 at 14:16 (4,048 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)   |   | |
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Post# 663197 , Reply# 40   3/1/2013 at 02:36 (4,046 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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of the 3243H, with a bit of smarteneing up to do.... |
Post# 663198 , Reply# 41   3/1/2013 at 02:37 (4,046 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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powder drawer fascia... |
Post# 663200 , Reply# 42   3/1/2013 at 02:38 (4,046 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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nameplate and timelight display, with a few blemishes on the fascia.... |
Post# 663201 , Reply# 43   3/1/2013 at 02:39 (4,046 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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on/off buttons and keyplate slots, with plates.... |
Post# 663202 , Reply# 44   3/1/2013 at 02:42 (4,046 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Let spring cleaning commence... |
Post# 663203 , Reply# 45   3/1/2013 at 02:43 (4,046 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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lid off... |
Post# 663204 , Reply# 46   3/1/2013 at 02:44 (4,046 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Make out the pitting that has developed on the door and door release slide... |
Post# 663205 , Reply# 47   3/1/2013 at 02:51 (4,046 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Will post some more photos later. In the meantime, below is a lovely catalogue image of the 2nd version 3243H, courtesy of the 1974 copy of Burlington.... |
Post# 663215 , Reply# 48   3/1/2013 at 06:11 (4,046 days old) by electron1100 (England)   |   | |
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Paul as we all know collecting old wahsers etc the condition is a variable, but i would say you have come up trumps on this one, certainly with your skills blemishes will disappear, and only £2.77 a week can i order one now ;-)
I also like the prayer mat infront of the machine it seems so fitting Keep up the good work |
Post# 663266 , Reply# 49   3/1/2013 at 12:35 (4,045 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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My Aunty had the A3110 and I remember a friend of mine in York having the Electra version. I always thought it was such a smart design with the orange graphics and the half load button - would love to get hold of one though my first automatic I bought second hand was the A3060
Well done Paul on the keymatic. Look forward to following progress S |
Post# 663472 , Reply# 50   3/2/2013 at 12:56 (4,044 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Hi Gary. Now we have a 2nd version 3243H in the ranks, I would be quite prepared to pay what Burlington's are asking for one of these instead, PLUS I'd gt a free iron .... |
Post# 663477 , Reply# 52   3/2/2013 at 13:03 (4,044 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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So I set to work on the door with a superb concoction called 'Peek', recommended to me by Seamus and Matt. Superb stuff.... |
Post# 663479 , Reply# 53   3/2/2013 at 13:06 (4,044 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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....and got rid of those pits. Also took a risk and polished up the fascia, carefully ensuring left to right and right to left movements to follow the grain of the finish. No Up and Down! |
Post# 663481 , Reply# 54   3/2/2013 at 13:07 (4,044 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Post# 663483 , Reply# 55   3/2/2013 at 13:08 (4,044 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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I want to go over the door again, but will have to get brave again! |
Post# 663484 , Reply# 56   3/2/2013 at 13:09 (4,044 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Didnt forget the door release slide... |
Post# 663485 , Reply# 57   3/2/2013 at 13:11 (4,044 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Also polished up the laminate removable lid.... |
Post# 663486 , Reply# 58   3/2/2013 at 13:12 (4,044 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Post# 663487 , Reply# 59   3/2/2013 at 13:16 (4,044 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Just got that annoying blemish above the powder drawer to protect and cover, as well as a similar blemish underneath the fascia. Once those are sorted, the upper part of the machine is sorted... |
Post# 663488 , Reply# 60   3/2/2013 at 13:17 (4,044 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Post# 663498 , Reply# 61   3/2/2013 at 13:53 (4,044 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)   |   | |
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Post# 663512 , Reply# 62   3/2/2013 at 15:16 (4,044 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)   |   | |
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Post# 663520 , Reply# 63   3/2/2013 at 16:13 (4,044 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 663528 , Reply# 64   3/2/2013 at 17:01 (4,044 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Wow Paul. It's looking fantastic. That peek stuff seems to work a treat along with some good old elbow grease no doubt - it looks almost like new and the indicator lights look great. Great to that it has its original drain hose too - I've always preferred the rubber hoses to the plastic ones.
Thanks for the Electra pic too. Cheers S |
Post# 665544 , Reply# 65   3/13/2013 at 06:57 (4,034 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 665633 , Reply# 67   3/13/2013 at 16:26 (4,033 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)   |   | |
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Yes they select the cycle, they act like the dial you would turn on a normal automatic. |
Post# 666788 , Reply# 69   3/18/2013 at 14:38 (4,028 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Dragged the machine out into the sun a week or so ago... |
Post# 666789 , Reply# 70   3/18/2013 at 14:41 (4,028 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Roll on the warmer months and a suitable get together weekend and then maybe we will get the chance to plug her in and see what's what! Until then.... |
Post# 666793 , Reply# 71   3/18/2013 at 14:46 (4,028 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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1961 to 1964 model 3224. The machine is Mike's and the photo hails from my first ever wash-in, back in 2007. |
Post# 666797 , Reply# 72   3/18/2013 at 14:49 (4,028 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 666798 , Reply# 73   3/18/2013 at 14:52 (4,028 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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1964 to circa 1966 model 3226. The machine below belongs to Mathew, with the photo taken at Mike's. |
Post# 666799 , Reply# 74   3/18/2013 at 14:55 (4,028 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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1966 to 1967 model 3203. The first widebody machine, with this example also belonging to Mathew. The photograph was taken back in 2008 at the time of its unveiling to the collector world. |
Post# 666801 , Reply# 75   3/18/2013 at 14:58 (4,028 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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1967 to 1969 model 3203H. As per model 3203 in every respect, apart from it being a hot and cold fill. One of these models has yet to be preserved:-( |
Post# 666805 , Reply# 78   3/18/2013 at 15:09 (4,028 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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....when the colour scheme was changed to create the 2nd version 3243H. The newest preserved Keymatic, this model ran through to early 1975. |
Post# 666806 , Reply# 79   3/18/2013 at 15:15 (4,028 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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1975 to 1978 model A3008. Mikes famous machine. |
Post# 666812 , Reply# 81   3/18/2013 at 15:22 (4,028 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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1978 to 1980 model A3062. The Keymatic finally becomes an 1100 - a little bit of 'New Magic'! The machine below is Mathew's, whilst there is also a 2nd preserved example courtesy of Gary and now in Al's safe pair of hands. |
Post# 666855 , Reply# 84   3/18/2013 at 17:06 (4,028 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 666950 , Reply# 85   3/19/2013 at 01:34 (4,028 days old) by SeamusUk (Dover Kent UK)   |   | |
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Post# 666956 , Reply# 87   3/19/2013 at 02:26 (4,028 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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that machine cleaned up nicely, what did you use Paul? Love the fascia colors on the front. But 27 connections to the timer box?? Holy moly you would need someone standing beside you with the wiring diagram just to get around!!
"I also like the prayer mat infront of the machine it seems so fitting " GARY! too funny! |
Post# 667063 , Reply# 88   3/19/2013 at 14:51 (4,027 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)   |   | |
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Post# 667068 , Reply# 89   3/19/2013 at 15:14 (4,027 days old) by electron1100 (England)   |   | |
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Never mind Lee maybe a combination of all these shiny Hoovers and a heavy session over the weekend are contributing to your aching eyes ;-)
JON and the prayer mat Well as you know yourself mate, some of these machines are treated with utmost reverance and rightly so Aww i miss them if i could have held onto the 3243 for summer washing only..............hmm i would have to remove a bit more cupboard space, i wonder how mal would have taken that :-0 Ahh well this is still a lovely thread so i wish you well Paul and if i can ever get to Mats when you and your machine are there i will gladly sit on me arse doing nothing except to poke mat with me stick and say "not the way i would have done it", but as you know "every little helps" :-) Picture attached of Mike in awe and paying his respects to a Hoover 3062 keymatic |
Post# 667173 , Reply# 91   3/20/2013 at 04:40 (4,027 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)   |   | |
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Post# 667447 , Reply# 94   3/21/2013 at 13:28 (4,025 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 667448 , Reply# 95   3/21/2013 at 13:30 (4,025 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 667452 , Reply# 96   3/21/2013 at 13:51 (4,025 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)   |   | |
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Post# 667582 , Reply# 97   3/22/2013 at 04:55 (4,025 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)   |   | |
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A link to the thread- bearings were not needed in the end just the crush washer which was expertly sorted by Mathew on one of his visits. He also fitted a new suspension kit and sourced and fitted a new door microswitch when it failed, so he is responsible for her current state and deserves a big thank you :). The suppressor was removed and bypassed- they are not really needed now as digital signals are not prone to electrical interference.
Seamus CLICK HERE TO GO TO SeamusUK's LINK |
Post# 667902 , Reply# 98   3/23/2013 at 13:04 (4,023 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Thanks for posting the link Seamus. Great to re-read about the discovery of your A3112. Nearly 3 years ago! Time flies. Paul |