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Post# 665940 , Reply# 2   3/14/2013 at 21:30 (4,031 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Watched the first 23 minute vid, Scott. I noticed that you use low measures of powdered additives, but if you add them all up, what's the total? Did you get the yellow stain our of the sweat shirt?
You have a good voice, and I loved the curious cat, all a-wonder at the twintub shenanigans. Everything's so orderly and tidy. You did Maytag proud. Got a kick out of your charity at calling the spin switch "quirky" (was that what you said ?) when it's really a pain in the bum. Agreed: the A50 is all power all the time. If only they had engineered a spin rinse..... with that fast pump and that turbine spin, it would have been the bomb. |
Post# 665948 , Reply# 3   3/14/2013 at 22:15 (4,031 days old) by barcoboy (Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 665963 , Reply# 5   3/15/2013 at 00:02 (4,031 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 666217 , Reply# 7   3/16/2013 at 08:14 (4,030 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Very Cool Videos Scott thanks for taking the time to do and thanks for sharing.
These were one of the most curious appliances MT ever built and sold, I was working for MT soon after these were introduced and we sold some and repaired a lot of them. They as you mentioned were all MT built and engineered.
Thoughts about the washer, Interestingly when MT was engineering their first full sized automatic washer in the late 1940s they got and held patents for a washer that had side impeller washing action [ the automatic had a large impeller on each side of the wash basket ] and as most of us appliance collectors know MT engineered and introduced the MT Top Load Neptune in the early 2000s that used a version of this interesting and very effective washing system, so this was an idea that MT had early on.
They tried to build a high quality washer and largely succeeded, the cabinets were the same galvanized steel used in their regular machines and they borrowed as many parts from their regular washer as possible. The machines were so heavy mainly because they used two 1/4 HP split phase motors because was easier to engineer and build a limited quantity of washers this way rather than design a drive system to use one motor for both like regular automatics do. Maytag built every thing used to manufacturer this machine except for the motors, electrical switches and some water seals, belts and hardware.
The Dryer, This time MT tried to copy items of the full sized HOH dryers, but they immediately had to compromise several of the things that they always claimed that made the FS HOH so good. This was the first dryer they made that used a poly-vee belt around the dryers drum for driving the drum and the single rear drum support for the drum itself also went out the window in favor of cheap Teflon pads that supported the drum in the front and rear. Again then they borrowed a few things from the FS HOH dryers, the lint filter, the complete door assembly with magnetic catch and the little insulators for the heating element.
Overall these little Maytag s were a cool well built set, but I cannot imagine that MT didn't loose a lot of money on them, they came out way too late for a semiautomatic washer in the US. MT did market the TT as a safer alternative to the very dangerous wringer washer they were still manufacturing, but it didn't fly with customers, people that were used to wringer washers were not interested in this little washer. By the time these were available there were lots of Japanese twin tub machines that were cheaper more automatic and worked better and of course compact automatics soon took over. The dealer I worked for also sold Whirlpool and when WP came out with their fully automatic [ compact ] in 1972 we never sold another MT TT again, we even had to almost give away the floor model MT TT, LOL. There were lots of durability issues with both the washer and dryer, even though very sturdy in appearance and construction neither of the machines would last anywhere near as long as their full sized machines if actually used to do a families laundry as MT advertised they could do.
These are however a must have for any serious Maytag Collector, We have a restored Avocado dryer and a Harvest Gold washer in our museum for folks to see and play with.
Thanks again Scott for the great video demonstration, John. |
Post# 666349 , Reply# 9   3/16/2013 at 19:06 (4,029 days old) by TwinTubber (Toronto)   |   | |
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Another. |
Post# 666352 , Reply# 10   3/16/2013 at 19:09 (4,029 days old) by TwinTubber (Toronto)   |   | |
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A 'pair' of "Porta Pairs". |
Post# 666359 , Reply# 11   3/16/2013 at 19:29 (4,029 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Scott, I knew I had seen a set like this somewhere! I'm happy you got them! I did have a dryer like that at some point but it didn't heat, someone had drilled a hole with a small bushing in the center of the door and used it for another purpose than drying clothes (I guess it did turn something but I have no idea why this was done).
Thanks for taking the time to make the videos. I really enjoyed watching them! |
Post# 666364 , Reply# 13   3/16/2013 at 20:13 (4,029 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 666421 , Reply# 16   3/17/2013 at 06:19 (4,029 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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The funny thing is that I have never owned a Twin Tub myself! I've been more seriously collecting since I had a car accident 4 years ago. Before the accident, I liked appliances and I already owned a few but since then, it seems I can focus on things for a very long time without being bothered! For example, I can listen to the same track repeat on an album many many many times (if I like it of course!) and that didn't happen before the accident!
As my collection is pretty focused on Frigidaire appliances, I'd really like to get one of these someday... |
Post# 666475 , Reply# 17   3/17/2013 at 12:59 (4,028 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 666478 , Reply# 18   3/17/2013 at 13:06 (4,028 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Phil, I had a broken brain, too. Mine was caused by a prescription drug. I know what it's like. Small world, huh?
BUT I'M FASCINATED by your page showing GM and Master Twin. We've seen Frigidaire branded TT's before, but they were not made by GM. So finding out today that GM did indeed make a Twin Tub is WONDERFUL. Do you have anything else about this miracle? |
Post# 666497 , Reply# 19   3/17/2013 at 13:30 (4,028 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 666532 , Reply# 20   3/17/2013 at 15:39 (4,028 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)   |   | |
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Post# 666749 , Reply# 23   3/18/2013 at 11:17 (4,027 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 666751 , Reply# 24   3/18/2013 at 11:22 (4,027 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 666752 , Reply# 25   3/18/2013 at 11:30 (4,027 days old) by TwinTubber (Toronto)   |   | |
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But alas Mickey, there really is a Twin Tub Fairy who magically "transformed" the Easy into a modern day Hoover look-a-like. But I digress...................... ;) |
Post# 666757 , Reply# 26   3/18/2013 at 11:50 (4,027 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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" The polypropylene top assembly is coloured white, restyled handles are fitted to both wash and spin lids. The wash side mechanism is powered by a split phase motor, the twin lobe turbulator being driven direct. The re-circulation nozzle faces in the opposite direction but at the same angle, this is necessary due to the reversed action of the water rotation. The wash pump, located on the lower crossbrace incorporates a four bladed impeller. "
I can decode Launderess with some help, LOL, but the third sentence from Phi's scan is beyond my paygrade: The re-circulation nozzle faces in the opposite direction but at the same angle, this is necessary due to the reversed action of the water rotation. What is going on here? |
Post# 666758 , Reply# 27   3/18/2013 at 12:03 (4,027 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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If I've seen the new version, probably a McClary, I've forgotten, but I believe you, of course.
What do you make of the Frigidaire having a "Turbolator? " The text makes it sound like the impeller reverses like the MT A 50. Leave it to GM to up the ante to classy and exclusive. Yeah! Too bad they didn't keep their washer division. Fools! |
Post# 666807 , Reply# 28   3/18/2013 at 15:19 (4,027 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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That Frigidaire ad is one of my favourites.
Checking back on previous threads it appears this machine had a pulsator on the bottom of the tub - from a Which report from October 1967 it appears that the machine had a reasonably small capacity - they said 3 1/2lb so it was probably rated about 5lb Interesting to see this machine in Canada as the UK version had a heater, but I presume that Canadian models would not have. |
Post# 666816 , Reply# 29   3/18/2013 at 15:27 (4,027 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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I bleieve this is the machine that is being referred to - immediatly recognisable to us in the UK as it is based on the Hotpoint Supermatic which was sold here for very many years.
I hope Robert will forgive a shot from a recent Epherema posting, I was amazed to see it. It uses recirculating water action, the "Spiraclean" agitator is entirely appropriate for an Easy and (at least in the UK) it used a GE style filter pan. On UK models the right hand knob was the heater thermostat control. Spin speed was 3100rpm |
Post# 666822 , Reply# 30   3/18/2013 at 15:36 (4,027 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 666826 , Reply# 31   3/18/2013 at 15:49 (4,027 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Mickey
I cannot tell you how excited I was when I noticed the McClarey TT, as it was the first reference I had seen of this style of machine oon your side of teh pond. The attached vid courtsey of Matchbox Paul, this is the more advanced model with the automatic rinse - different from both the Hoover and the Speed Queen styles. I just put a little more water pressure on mine to make the jets flow out further Al |
Post# 668070 , Reply# 34   3/24/2013 at 11:23 (4,021 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Hauled the Hoover TT out of it's cubby as one should take the thing out for an airing now and then,if nothing else the odd use keeps the seals and pump in good condition IMHO. Anyway am here to tell you won't be doing that again anytime soon! *LOL*
Did small load of darks using older version of Cheer powder (Triple Colour Guard), and while yes the Hoover does clean well enough, the effort to get there is just more than my nerves can stand. Perhaps if the motor didn't make enough noise to wake the dead things might be different. It is that darn motor noise which gets to one and you will hear it allot if you intend to get any where near the same standard of rinsing one obtains from a good front loader. The shifting of laundry (wringers, hand washing with a mangle, twin tubs) does have the benefit of leaving less lint on laundry IMHO. This is because washing is lifted out of the muck laden water and wrung/spun out. As opposed to the spin drying cycle on top loaders that sends water filtered through the wash on it's way out of the tub. The darks done yesterday in the Hoover had much less linting than when done in the Whirlpool compact even allowing for the latter having a recirculating lint filter system. It is the rinsing part of using a TT that gets one down. Am sorry but the spin can rinisng system only works for very small loads made up of small items. Most everything else is going to require a trip through some sort of immersion rinsing either in the TT's main tub or elsewhere. It is all that draing of water and refilling of the main tub that causes all the bother. Depending upon several factors one will be doing that quite allot in order to remove all the detergent/muck from the washing. One can only assume many routine users of TT's back in the day weren't to bothered by exacting rinsing standards. Just cannot see otherwise and have them deliver on claims about being able to "whizz" though mountains of wash using a twin tub. |
Post# 725697 , Reply# 35   1/7/2014 at 00:33 (3,733 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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No, I wasn't kidding. That circle jet spray is well-known among the Frigidarians, but in it a TT-- Whoooo. eeeeee--news to me, and good news, indeed.
I love that machine to death. And thanks to Vacbear for the posting the vid.
So glad you're back, a gift of the Polar Vortex. Could listen to you all night.
Was smitten from the beginning when you said:
Have a coffee, tea, soda or juice. Pour a drink or crack a beer (or two). |
Post# 725832 , Reply# 36   1/7/2014 at 12:53 (3,732 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Last night, I search-o-latored for a thread where I asked you a question before your signal went dark. In that search, I found this one and it was so entertaining that resurrection was clearly indicated, but it is not the one I was searching for. In that not-yet-found one, I wanted you to discuss, at great length your detergent use: how you arrived at the low dosages you mentioned in this thread; how you get such good results; if you had heard of homeopathic medicine which uses miniscule traces of a compound; why your clothes are so clean and white with such low doses; what kind of detergent you use, recalling that Amway was so concentrated, only a small quarter--maybe eighth--of a cup was recommended.
So when you feel like regaling us with a well-developed post which you often apologize for (so funny, since many here love long posts), please have at it, good friend, whose signal is now bright again. |