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Post# 668526   3/26/2013 at 15:09 (3,383 days old) by norgechef (Saint George New Brunswick )        

Id like everyone to try to include the year the washer was made along with the picture... I will upload some of my own later when i find my camera charger.

Post# 668557 , Reply# 1   3/26/2013 at 17:27 (3,383 days old) by nrones ()        
1. Candy GO4 1274 LH

First washer I want to add is my favourite one - Candy GrandOPlus. It is the only washer I know the data you required precisely :)

It was assembled in factory on March 18th 2010, unpacked and first time used June 9th :)


Post# 668558 , Reply# 2   3/26/2013 at 17:33 (3,383 days old) by nrones ()        
2. Gorenje WA 583

It was made in late 2001/early 2002, first time used September 2002

Post# 668559 , Reply# 3   3/26/2013 at 17:43 (3,383 days old) by nrones ()        
3. Candy GO 510

This one is made in 2008, first time used December 27th 2008.

Sorry for the bad picture, I can't find pictures of it on my computer now, so I just print-screened one of my videos with it ;)


Post# 668562 , Reply# 4   3/26/2013 at 18:11 (3,383 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
Washing Machine Thread

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My Hoover A3786 Logic, manufactured in 1991 - What a machine. !!!

Post# 668567 , Reply# 5   3/26/2013 at 18:20 (3,383 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Post# 668750 , Reply# 6   3/27/2013 at 17:32 (3,382 days old) by miele4life (Reading, UK )        

My Miele Platinum 6, made around August/September 2005, 1st used 10th October 2005.



Post# 668876 , Reply# 7   3/28/2013 at 12:49 (3,381 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        
Pics...

...My Servis Electronic 1000 plus 3305. Spin care drum, 1000 spin and long soap tray.Currently not working. :-(

Post# 668878 , Reply# 8   3/28/2013 at 12:53 (3,381 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        
Whoops!

Forgot to mention the Servis is 34.

Here's my other Servis that doesn't work - Servis Quartz Multivent 262. It's 39.


Post# 668880 , Reply# 9   3/28/2013 at 12:59 (3,381 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        
And my pride and joy.

I'm still unsure of the dates for both.

The Bosch WTA2000 is now gone but I still have the WM64. WM64 is 1998.

And sorry, the 262 is 29!

Cheers.

Chris.


Post# 668882 , Reply# 10   3/28/2013 at 13:51 (3,381 days old) by HotpointFan (United Kingdom)        
My Machine

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Recently bought Zanussi EW1007 from October 1987. This is an Electricty Board Special. I have used it on a spin cycle a few times, but haven't yet done a wash in it. Sorry for the shadow overcast in the photo!

P.S - Aquarius800, I would say the 3305 is 24, not 34, so it would be 1989, not 1979!


Post# 668950 , Reply# 11   3/28/2013 at 20:57 (3,380 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        

I would say about 1985. The Miele W754S with 1100rpm.

Post# 668951 , Reply# 12   3/28/2013 at 20:59 (3,380 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
Washer

Hotpoint 1509 from about 1976/77

Post# 668953 , Reply# 13   3/28/2013 at 21:00 (3,380 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
Wash







Post# 668967 , Reply# 14   3/28/2013 at 22:52 (3,380 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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Heres my Miele Novotronic W918

I don't know about build dates or anything. I first used this machine in February 2013.


Post# 668968 , Reply# 15   3/28/2013 at 22:59 (3,380 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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My Electrolux EWF1481 Time Manager. Built around 2011.

Also matching Electrolux Sensor Dry reversing dryer, also built around 2011.


Post# 668970 , Reply# 16   3/28/2013 at 23:12 (3,380 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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My Hoover Zodiac 490.

Built around 1990? im not sure.

Also the link to when I found it and the Videos


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Post# 668973 , Reply# 17   3/28/2013 at 23:21 (3,380 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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My Hoover Electra 540.

Built around 1993.



Post# 668975 , Reply# 18   3/28/2013 at 23:22 (3,380 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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I love the Hoover Electra's control dial, set out the same as their top loaders at the time :-)

Post# 668977 , Reply# 19   3/28/2013 at 23:27 (3,380 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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The U.S Frigidaire I had for a short while. I sold this to a friend because the people I was living with hated it.

No idea when this was built.

Link to some video as well :-)


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Post# 668980 , Reply# 20   3/28/2013 at 23:40 (3,380 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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The Indesit I had before the Frigidaire, still going strong back in the old share house I used to live in (before i met my fiancee :-) )

Post# 668983 , Reply# 21   3/29/2013 at 00:32 (3,380 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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My beloved Hoovermatic, just replaced the wash belt as the the wash action was slowing and lagging, back to full speed now though!

I got this just after moving out from the share house into the granny flat out the back with my partner matt.

This pic was in the granny flat, I had a neutral brown theme on the wall opposite so the Hoovermatic looked really good there.

Built in the late 70's/80's i would imagine???


Post# 668984 , Reply# 22   3/29/2013 at 00:36 (3,380 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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Where the Hoovermatic lived when not in use in the Granny Flat, blends in nicely :-)



Post# 668985 , Reply# 23   3/29/2013 at 00:41 (3,380 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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My Wilkins Servis Supertwin
Made in the 60's i think.
Currently in storage.


Post# 668989 , Reply# 24   3/29/2013 at 00:55 (3,380 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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When we got to the Granny Flat, there was this Hoover Commodore in the laundry, worked ok but had a lid switch issue which I couldn't fix. We were paying off the Electrolux at that point and this was just a stand in anyway, died quicker than expected though so had a borrow a Simpson top loader for two months to get by lol.

Videos in the link below.


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Post# 668991 , Reply# 25   3/29/2013 at 01:07 (3,380 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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The Simpson I had to borrow from the friend that I gave the Frigidaire to. I actually really liked this machine :-)

I had repainted the laundry alcove by this point to my 'neutral brown' tone.

I had also just ordered some Gain and Downy off Amazon, my two favourite american detergents. The green topped Downy is a gorgeous scent :-)


Post# 669165 , Reply# 26   3/30/2013 at 01:14 (3,379 days old) by norgechef (Saint George New Brunswick )        
2013 Haier top loader

Frontal view

Post# 669167 , Reply# 27   3/30/2013 at 01:16 (3,379 days old) by norgechef (Saint George New Brunswick )        
2013 Haier top loader

Drum

Post# 669168 , Reply# 28   3/30/2013 at 01:18 (3,379 days old) by norgechef (Saint George New Brunswick )        
2013 Haier top loader

Under lid instructions & drum

Post# 669354 , Reply# 29   3/31/2013 at 05:05 (3,378 days old) by washer111 ()        
Hoover Commodore

We had a fairly similar machine from around 1992 - (Feb) 2009, when ours developed a slight leak/electrical fault and was stopping mid-spin. The old repairman condemned the machine - stating it was not worth fixing. The machine was also sqeaking, squawking and making other odd noises during agitation. 

Suds save was used a lot in the early years, as it was using rain water, which was in scarce supply at our old, old house! In Perth, we had the inner or outer (cannot remember which) drum replaced around 2003, as the machine left rusty bits on the clothes. I think I still have the towels in use from then, which have those spots on them! They actually looked more sinister than what they were. Lol. 

 

Our old machine, after this one was a Simpson SWT802, HE. One with practically no holes in the wash drum. The recirculation pump died/seized sometime in late 2009, but the washer showed no error codes (Beeping/Blinking lights). We had a "daughter board" fitted in April 2011, after it decided to stop working. We toyed with the idea of getting a Maytag at this point - but ended up not, and got a Miele in September 2012 instead. The Simpson had a notorious "Getting Stuck" phase, where it would fill 1/4 of the way, stop for 5 minutes, then start filling again. It didn't matter whether you used Auto or manual water levels, it still did this AND would sense the water level. Yeah, so much for "Manual Control..."

 

This is the machine - Linked is the thread I made detailing this machine some time back last year:



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Post# 669357 , Reply# 30   3/31/2013 at 05:08 (3,378 days old) by washer111 ()        
Other Side

Of the Control Panel


Post# 669359 , Reply# 31   3/31/2013 at 05:10 (3,378 days old) by washer111 ()        
Money Shot

The wash bowl and agitator - the only parts of the machine that were semi decent...

 

Outer tub is/was plastic, pump was cheap and electric, control panel was plastic AND exposed to steam escaping through the lid when used on Hot washes... Oh dear!


Post# 669361 , Reply# 32   3/31/2013 at 05:18 (3,378 days old) by washer111 ()        
And Now for your Pleasure:

The Miele W5741, Honeycomb Care. Lovely selection of cycles, with options for a Short Washer, Water Plus (Extra Rinse, Higher Water level or both: Note that I'm not sure about the higher water level) and "Quiet" mode. 

 

Temperature range is from Cold - 20º - 30º - 40º - 50º - 60º - 70º - 90º

 

Spins are from No Spin - Rinse/Hold - 400 - 600 - 800 - 1000 - 1200 - 1400

On some cycles, spins under 800rpm give an extra rinse. 

 

Photo shows the machine washing a load of towels at 60º, Cottons Cycle and Water Plus. Used these shots in my photo album. 


Post# 670024 , Reply# 33   4/2/2013 at 18:17 (3,376 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        
washer111

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I am sure your Simpson T/L was also sold under the Electrolux name. The selling point being it was a cross between a solid drum and traditional drum with holes....the machine would fill up, water would slowly trickle out of the few holes in the drum and be recirculated saving water by not completely filling the outer tub with water.

Anyway....here is my washer, 2008 Miele W1613, my 13th automatic and the one I have owned the longest. A lot of my previous machines were second hand and I sold them on when I got bored ( never had the place to collect ). I have had a few new machines that were duds, broke down within a short time. I love this washer as it's fast, washes brilliantly and is economical to boot! We bought it a week before we got married in 2008, I didn't think Hubby would go for a Miele BUT my obsession must have transferred to him momentarily as he did some research online.....he said he wanted a washer that would last and wanted a Miele! Cost us £649 from John Lewis with 5yr guarantee. Those in the know will notice the machine is doing and Express 40 wash with water plus selected....this was a load of worn once t shirts and joggers worn in the evening so just needed a freshen up....honest!






Post# 682047 , Reply# 34   6/2/2013 at 02:47 (3,315 days old) by HooverZanMiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
My Crew

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First, an overall shot of my Crew at home. (Not including some extra machines).

Post# 682054 , Reply# 35   6/2/2013 at 03:38 (3,315 days old) by HooverZanMiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
1982 Servis Quartz 04KG 1000RPM AutoWasher Mk600

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I prefer an order of year approach, so to start off, here is my 1982 Servis Quartz 04KG 1000RPM AutoWasher Mk600 (purchased end of Jan 2013 from BoschLover1997).

Post# 682055 , Reply# 36   6/2/2013 at 04:01 (3,315 days old) by HooverZanMiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
1983 Servis Quartz 04KG 1000RPM AutoWasher 6036G

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Next up, the imminently arriving 1983 Servis Quartz 04KG 1000RPM AutoWasher 6036G, being delivered by ZodaWash, later this month. (Purchased 28th March 2013).

Post# 682056 , Reply# 37   6/2/2013 at 04:18 (3,315 days old) by HooverZanMiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
1989 Servis Sapphire 04Kg/02KG 1300RPM Washer Dryer 9635

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Next up, my 1989 Servis Sapphire 04Kg/02KG 1300RPM Washer Dryer 9635.

Post# 682057 , Reply# 38   6/2/2013 at 04:23 (3,315 days old) by HooverZanMiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
Zanussi JetSystem Excel 04.5KG/02.5KG 1250RPM Washer Dryer W

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This isn't mine, it's my Uncle's (Mum's Brother's) 1999'ish Zanussi JetSystem Excel 04.5KG/02.5KG 1250RPM Washer Dryer WJS1397W.

Post# 682058 , Reply# 39   6/2/2013 at 04:30 (3,315 days old) by HooverZanMiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
1999 Bosch Logixx 05KG/02.5KG 1400RPM Washer Dryer WFT2800

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Followed by my, 1999 Bosch Logixx 05KG/02.5KG 1400RPM Washer Dryer WFT2800. (Purchased May 2012). Currently, has an issue needing human intervention to persuade it on with its job. (Filling issue).

Post# 682059 , Reply# 40   6/2/2013 at 04:35 (3,315 days old) by HooverZanMiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
1990 Hoover Logic Premier 05KG/03KG 1250RPM Washer Dryer A85

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Apologies, forgot these two machines, which come before my Uncle's Zanussi.

My 1990 Hoover Logic Premier 05KG/03KG 1250RPM Washer Dryer A8576


Post# 682060 , Reply# 41   6/2/2013 at 04:39 (3,315 days old) by HooverZanMiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
1990/1991 Hotpoint Aquarius Ultima MicroProfile 05KG 1400RPM

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My ex 1990/1991 Hotpoint Aquarius Ultima MicroProfile 05KG 1400RPM AutoWasher 9566. (Purchased in 2010 as a bundle buy). Sold to a friend, where it gave up within a month of selling to him, so has now ceased washing, but he's using the parts to upgrade his Hotpoint 9525, that my Uncle donated to him.

Post# 682061 , Reply# 42   6/2/2013 at 04:42 (3,315 days old) by HooverZanMiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
Hoover Aristocrat Logic 1300 AutoWasher A3768

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My Hoover Aristocrat Logic 1300 AutoWasher A3768, the 02nd machine as part of the bundle buy with the 9566.

Post# 682062 , Reply# 43   6/2/2013 at 04:44 (3,315 days old) by HooverZanMiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
1991 Hoover EcoLogic Tumble Dryer D6722

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Our 1991 Hoover EcoLogic Tumble Dryer D6722.

Post# 682064 , Reply# 44   6/2/2013 at 04:49 (3,315 days old) by HooverZanMiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
2005 Zanussi JetSystem 06KG/03KG 1600RPM Washer Dryer WJD166

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My 2005 Zanussi JetSystem 06KG/03KG 1600RPM Washer Dryer WJD1667W. (Purchased in October 2008).

I hope my Aunt will have it as the Quartz 6036's taking its place next to the Sapphire 9635.


Post# 682065 , Reply# 45   6/2/2013 at 04:51 (3,315 days old) by HooverZanMiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
2005 Zanussi JetSystem 06KG/03KG 1600RPM Washer Dryer WJD166

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My 2005 Zanussi JetSystem 06KG/03KG 1600RPM Washer Dryer WJD1667W. (Purchased in October 2008).

I hope my Aunt will have it as the Quartz 6036's taking its place next to the Sapphire 9635.


Post# 682066 , Reply# 46   6/2/2013 at 04:55 (3,315 days old) by HooverZanMiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
2006 Hotpoint Ultima 06KG/05KG 1600RPM Washer Dryer WD860

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Grandma's 2006 Hotpoint Ultima 06KG/05KG 1600RPM Washer Dryer WD860. (Purchased 10th Feb 2006).

Apologies for the duplicate of my Zanussi.


Post# 682067 , Reply# 47   6/2/2013 at 05:00 (3,315 days old) by HooverZanMiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
2010 Míele Navitronic 06KG 1800RPM AutoWasher W3985WPS

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My 2010 Míele Navitronic 06KG 1800RPM AutoWasher W3985WPS. (Purchased May 2010)

Post# 682070 , Reply# 48   6/2/2013 at 05:09 (3,315 days old) by HooverZanMiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
2011 Hotpoint Aqualtis 08KG/06KG 1400RPM Waser Dryer AQM8D49

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Mum & Dad's 2011 Hotpoint Aqualtis 08KG/06KG 1400RPM Waser Dryer AQM8D49IV.
Purchased May 2011.

Apologies for the pic angle.


Post# 682077 , Reply# 49   6/2/2013 at 06:01 (3,315 days old) by HooverZanMiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
Apologies

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Apologies for any spelling mistakes, I'm usually really good at ensuring everything's spelled correctly in messages.

Apologies also if I swiped the Quartz 6036 pic from anyone.

CJ


Post# 682133 , Reply# 50   6/2/2013 at 15:47 (3,315 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)        
Automatic Plus

Washer111. Can you describe this program I see on your machine. What does it do to make it automatic(as if the other programs aren't) and to make it plus?

Post# 682369 , Reply# 51   6/4/2013 at 07:12 (3,313 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        
Jerrod

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The "Automatic" programme is for washing medium loads of mixed cottons/synthetics. The machine will sense what fabric makes up the majority of the load and alter the drum rotation, wash time and spin speed accordingly. For example, if the load is mostly cotton the machine will use the intensive wash rhythm, longer interim spins and a longer final spin. If the machine decides the load is mostly synthetic it will do a gentler wash rhythm, introduce a cool down phase at the end of the wash, have a higher rinse level and shorter interim and final spin speeds. The programme is only really designed for lightly soiled fabrics, it only has three temperature options, cold, 30C and 40C and has just two rinses (unless no spin is selected then it will do three). The final spin is limited to 1200rpm on my machine which is a 1300rpm spin model. You cannot select any options with this programme either ie: prewash or extra rinse.

It's not a programme I use often, I think I'd use it more if it did a cool down phase whatever wash action is used as if you are washing mixed fabrics the synthetics can become very creased if a mostly cotton load is detected.

Here is a youtube clip ( not mine) showing the Automatic programme with the intensive wash rhythm. Hope that helps.

PaulC










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Post# 684157 , Reply# 52   6/17/2013 at 05:21 (3,300 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

Zanussi ZWH7122J Jetsystem. Purchased in late September 2012. I think this machine was made in early Sept 2012.

Post# 684158 , Reply# 53   6/17/2013 at 05:22 (3,300 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

Long detergent drawer in Zanussi ZWH7122J Jetsystem

Post# 684159 , Reply# 54   6/17/2013 at 05:23 (3,300 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

Jetsystem in Zanussi ZWH7122J 2012 machine

Post# 684161 , Reply# 55   6/17/2013 at 05:39 (3,300 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

Indesit IWD5123. Purchased in Sept 2011. This machine was sold 4 months later as we never liked it due to the excess vibration and also the machine only does 2 rinses and there is no extra rinse facility. The 5kg drum was pretty small.

Post# 684162 , Reply# 56   6/17/2013 at 05:59 (3,300 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

AEG OKO Lavamat 72640 purchased in Sept 2002, lasted for 9 years. Nice machine but it had a tendency to bang a lot and the drum hit the glass door when starting spins, due to poor suspension legs and the door seal rigidity. Despite that, it was a very solid machine that lasted and I prefer this over the latest AEG's with sealed tubs.

Post# 684163 , Reply# 57   6/17/2013 at 06:09 (3,300 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

Zanussi Flexi Dose, purchased in December 2011, sold in Sept 2012 - Lastly, the most awful Zanussi I have ever used. It had poor wash results and the spin cycles were just too sensitive and would take forever to spin. Most of the time, it would never spin on full 1600rpm spin. The Jetsystem model purchased in Sept 2012 is 100 times better and smoother.

Post# 684164 , Reply# 58   6/17/2013 at 06:11 (3,300 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

Zanussi Flexi Dose Drum Filter. Instead of the usual lint filter on front of machine. They have put it inside the drum. Never liked this particularly.

Post# 684165 , Reply# 59   6/17/2013 at 06:12 (3,300 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

Detergent drawer in Zanussi Flexi Dose machine. Its very small and only has 2 compartments. Unlike the Jetsystem which is longer.

Post# 766071 , Reply# 60   6/26/2014 at 04:12 (2,926 days old) by allan ()        
LG WM1355HW

I don't know when it was made, but I bought it brand new from Sears and just had it installed last Friday, June 20, 2014. It's an LG WM1355HW, 2.7 cubic feet, apartment-sized front load washer. So far I love how quiet it is, and it sings to me when it's done! :)

I wanted a Miele, but it was way more expensive, and the door opened the wrong way for my laundry closet.

It's my first front loader, and I have followed the tips I have found here such as: leaving the door open when not in use, wiping down the rubber gasket and drying out the dispensing drawer after every load, avoiding liquid fabric softener, etc. A lot more high maintenance compared to a top loader, but the clothes seem to come out cleaner.


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Post# 766098 , Reply# 61   6/26/2014 at 06:31 (2,926 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)        
drying out the dispensing drawer after every load

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Allan, that seems a bit excessive. Even on my cold fill only Miele, I don't clean the drawer out after every wash. I usually just remove the whole drawer once a month or so and wash it out in the kitchen sink.

I do wipe the seal down, but again, not after every load. I usually wait until after 3 or 4 loads before doing this.

I've had my machine for 5 years now and there's not a spec of mould or grime anywhere on it.



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Post# 766126 , Reply# 62   6/26/2014 at 08:12 (2,926 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I've have my Kenmore He4t for about 8 years. All I do is keep the door slightly ajar and the detergent drawer open. Every so often I give the dispenser a rinse with hot water because fabric softener seems to remain even though I have had the dispenser and the mechanism that directs water to each compartment changed twice under warranty. There is no odour or mold. The last time the tech guy was out, he was surprised that there was nothing in the pump clean out when he opened it. I use both liquid and powder detergent, bleach occasionally and fabric softener.

Gary


Post# 766287 , Reply# 63   6/27/2014 at 01:51 (2,925 days old) by allan ()        

Yeah, it's probably a bit excessive but I'm usually a bit OCD in the first few months of owning something, such a new car or new appliance. I baby it at first but then I get a bit more relaxed (or lazy, lol) as time goes by.

Post# 766878 , Reply# 64   6/30/2014 at 07:20 (2,922 days old) by Westie2 ()        
GE

Here is our GE 4.1 cubic foot washer and the matching dryer.  Both have the steam function.  We installed these in January of 2014.  Must say this washes great and the rinsing is  excellent. 


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