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Post# 669980 4/2/2013 at 16:05 (4,039 days old) by turquoisedude  (.) |
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I found an ad for this washer on the Québec Kijiji classfied ads way up north in the Saguenay region of the province - I have never seen or even heard of the brand before! It's a "Dominion" - it's not one of the 'store brands' that I remember. The push buttons and cabinet design are screaming "Easy" but I could be wrong.
I have to take a run at this one - it's about 5 hours away from Montreal and it's not like I have other obligations at the moment.. LOL If anyone has any further information about this brand, please let me know! 
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| Post# 669981 , Reply# 1 4/2/2013 at 16:07 (4,039 days old) by christfr (st louis mo) | ||
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Post# 669984 , Reply# 2 4/2/2013 at 16:08 (4,039 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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| Post# 669989 , Reply# 3 4/2/2013 at 16:28 (4,039 days old) by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada) | ||
Oh Wow... | ||
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Post# 669994 , Reply# 4 4/2/2013 at 16:54 (4,039 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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| Post# 670008 , Reply# 5 4/2/2013 at 17:53 (4,039 days old) by Bluejay (Havre de Grace, MD) | ||
I have several small Dominion appliances... | ||
| Post# 670019 , Reply# 6 4/2/2013 at 18:03 (4,039 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ) | ||
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Post# 670022 , Reply# 7 4/2/2013 at 18:16 (4,039 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Contact made!
Bon, I had to call the seller about this. Despite the April 1st posting date this is not an April Fool's Day prank!
The washer belonged to the mother of the person selling this. According to them, the washer still works and is very clean inside and out! And in case the photo doesn't show it well, the washer is PANK! I MUST HAVE IT... LOL Hubby will have kittens, but I'll make Beef Wellington and Crème Brulée to smooth things over. With any luck, I'll be heading north next week!! | ||
| Post# 670025 , Reply# 8 4/2/2013 at 18:18 (4,039 days old) by jaxsunst () | ||
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If I was given Beef Wellington and Creme Brulee, I wouldn't care what you bought. LOL | ||
| Post# 670026 , Reply# 9 4/2/2013 at 18:26 (4,039 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
"Dominion" was all over Chrystal Beach, Ontario, when we were there as kids in the summer. I also think one of the ads or POD's we've seen here has a Dominion in the checker board of 25 washers. (Could be wrongguuee.)
This'll be a real treat, as is the image of hubby having kittens. You never disappoint. What if it turns to be a bouncing basket clone--how exciting! | ||
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Post# 670028 , Reply# 10 4/2/2013 at 18:26 (4,039 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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It looks like a Coronado-style machine, O Beamish Boy. | ||
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Post# 670031 , Reply# 11 4/2/2013 at 18:29 (4,039 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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| Post# 670037 , Reply# 12 4/2/2013 at 18:32 (4,039 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland) | ||
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Post# 670053 , Reply# 13 4/2/2013 at 18:56 (4,039 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Pink Washer | ||
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Post# 670056 , Reply# 14 4/2/2013 at 19:05 (4,039 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay) |
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| Post# 670070 , Reply# 15 4/2/2013 at 19:40 (4,039 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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So psyched, I just googled: dominion automatic washer
and look what I got. YOU PAUL. How cool. Also, when Aworg copied the link, the word "heirloom" appeared at the end of the string.
Must dig deeper. CLICK HERE TO GO TO mickeyd's LINK | ||
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Post# 670082 , Reply# 16 4/2/2013 at 20:22 (4,039 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Oh Paul I sent that to myself from the past, I gave it to the woman in 1966 and told her to hold it for me till I return. Thank you for finding it I lost my time tracker down the Disposal in 1987 and have been off radar since.
Can't wait to see it again, so many years.......
OXOX JC
But MAN that is sexy HURRY UP!
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| Post# 670092 , Reply# 17 4/2/2013 at 21:13 (4,038 days old) by bradross (New Westminster, BC., Canada) | ||
$50.00 bucks - wow! | ||
| Post# 670099 , Reply# 18 4/2/2013 at 21:44 (4,038 days old) by unclejohn (Can) | ||
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Cool machine! Never seen that... A very unusual washer to say the least. | ||
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Post# 670110 , Reply# 19 4/2/2013 at 22:39 (4,038 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.)) |
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Never Seen one of those. | ||
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Post# 670253 , Reply# 20 4/3/2013 at 13:53 (4,038 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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I've been trying to find more about this machine but I've been drawing blanks... There are no more photos of the washer, alas. The seller enlisted the aid of one of their teens with a smartphone to take the photo they posted in their ad and only one photo was taken. I will point out to them that one must have the 'money shot' when selling a washer! LOL
The Coronado resemblance that Tom mentioned has been bugging me - and out of the blue, I remembered something that I only discovered last fall: Western Auto did have some stores in Canada. The rest is just theory: Maybe, just maybe, they sold major appliances branded as 'Dominion' in Canada. 'Wizard' was not really a brand that translates into French and other Canadian store-brands at the time did (eg: Viking,Kenmore). Anyway, a look at the name plate should help! Now, a much more important question: Can I safely transport a 'what I now think is a Coronado' washer on its back? It will be about a 6-hour drive with from the Saguenay to Ogden and I really don't want to repeat the foolish thing I did to the 63 Frigidaire Deluxe washer when I got it! | ||
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Post# 670258 , Reply# 21 4/3/2013 at 14:03 (4,038 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Ah Paul We can check Doctrine but as I recall a Beam machine has a vent hole or not a secure seal around the agitate shaft, so oil may leak if laid a certain way. Robert knows I am dead set against transporting a machine on its side for very long. I believe it bends the spin shaft - he of course would disagree with me.
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Post# 670323 , Reply# 22 4/3/2013 at 19:55 (4,038 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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A clue! | ||
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Post# 670352 , Reply# 23 4/3/2013 at 21:42 (4,037 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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I don't think I'm hallucinating | ||
| Post# 670389 , Reply# 24 4/4/2013 at 04:27 (4,037 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada) | ||
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| Post# 670390 , Reply# 25 4/4/2013 at 04:34 (4,037 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada) | ||
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| Post# 670392 , Reply# 26 4/4/2013 at 04:47 (4,037 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada) | ||
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Post# 670400 , Reply# 27 4/4/2013 at 07:09 (4,037 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Wow! Thanks for the information Eddie! I went back to the ad for the ironer that I found and by golly, it was made in Fergus, Ontario.
Now I MUST have this washer for sake of maintining Canadian content in my collection!! Let's see how well I do at finding a Moffat washer-dryer combo... LOL CLICK HERE TO GO TO turquoisedude's LINK | ||
| Post# 670401 , Reply# 28 4/4/2013 at 07:21 (4,037 days old) by rpms (ontario canada) | ||
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Post# 670402 , Reply# 29 4/4/2013 at 07:26 (4,037 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Beatty WonderMatic WOW it looks like Eddy has identified this washer, cool now it must be saved Paul. Paul what were the Moffat Combs like, were they similar to any US machines?
It should not hurt this [ or almost any Top Loading washer for that matter ] to move it on its side. Some washers do have vent holes on the transmissions that will leak oil, if layed on the wrong side, so it is often best to check the washer after it has been its side a while and if it is leaking roll it onto another side. And NO you can not bend the spin shaft by leaving ANY washer on its side, Jon you missed Aprils Fools Day by a couple of days with this remark, LOL. | ||
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Post# 670404 , Reply# 30 4/4/2013 at 07:40 (4,037 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Moffat combo
John, I think the Moffat combos were a Norge design (their early dishwashers were D&M's so I won't even bother looking for one for you... LOL). I've been looking for documentation on the Moffat laundry products, but haven't turned up much... yet!
I am so excited about getting this machine. Gotta get the station wagon back on the road and then that's it - the 2013 season will be officially open! | ||
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Post# 670409 , Reply# 31 4/4/2013 at 08:02 (4,037 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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In Consumer Reports test of combos, the Norge combo has the same model number with an "M" for Moffat for the Canadian model. | ||
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Post# 670428 , Reply# 32 4/4/2013 at 10:49 (4,037 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Get driving Paul | ||
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Post# 670798 , Reply# 35 4/6/2013 at 06:44 (4,035 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Well Paul | ||
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Post# 670838 , Reply# 36 4/6/2013 at 10:25 (4,035 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Post# 670841 , Reply# 37 4/6/2013 at 10:47 (4,035 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Post# 671414 , Reply# 38 4/8/2013 at 16:02 (4,033 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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update
Just confirmed with the seller that I will be picking up the washer on Thursday (April 11th). The station wagon has been taken out of storage and readied for the trip. It's going to be a loooooonnnnnng day on Thursday - 6 hours up to the Saguenay region then 6 hours back - I should have the first photos Friday!
Wheeeee!! Now, let's all hope that there won't be any more snow this week (it snowed Saturday in Ogden...BLAH!) | ||
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Post# 671433 , Reply# 39 4/8/2013 at 18:56 (4,033 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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6 hours up - then 6 hours back..... | ||
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Post# 671535 , Reply# 40 4/9/2013 at 07:19 (4,032 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Just like | ||
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Post# 672080 , Reply# 41 4/11/2013 at 21:11 (4,029 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Post# 672082 , Reply# 42 4/11/2013 at 21:13 (4,029 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Post# 672083 , Reply# 43 4/11/2013 at 21:13 (4,029 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Post# 672085 , Reply# 44 4/11/2013 at 21:15 (4,029 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Oooh! | ||
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Post# 672087 , Reply# 46 4/11/2013 at 21:16 (4,029 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Post# 672088 , Reply# 47 4/11/2013 at 21:18 (4,029 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Ta - daaa! | ||
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Post# 672089 , Reply# 48 4/11/2013 at 21:22 (4,029 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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It seems to be in great condition!
The 'story' behind it: The person who listed this on kijiji was doing so because his parent's house had been sold. He was born in '61 and said he does not remember having seen any other laundry equipment in the house! Sad news - there WAS a matching dryer, but it had been discarded about 15 years ago when the seller's mother passed away... Sigh! The washer has not been used since, but it was apparently still working when it was de-comissioned. 
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Post# 672090 , Reply# 49 4/11/2013 at 21:23 (4,029 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Post# 672091 , Reply# 50 4/11/2013 at 21:25 (4,029 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Money shot!! | ||
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Post# 672094 , Reply# 51 4/11/2013 at 21:26 (4,029 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Post# 672095 , Reply# 52 4/11/2013 at 21:27 (4,029 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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| Post# 672096 , Reply# 53 4/11/2013 at 21:28 (4,029 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia) | ||
Congrats Paul! | ||
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Post# 672097 , Reply# 54 4/11/2013 at 21:30 (4,029 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Timer dial and panel look interesting. I am hoping it lights up, but I will have to check that tomorrow.
The timer dial can be manually advanced - keeping my fingers crossed that the motor is still alive! Right, that's it for me tonight.. I'll do some real testing tomorrow and I'll be posting more photos and hopefully good news over the course of the weekend. As for me, after the 12-hour return trip I am about to turn into a pumpkin... LOL 
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| Post# 672099 , Reply# 55 4/11/2013 at 21:36 (4,029 days old) by lebron (Minnesota) | ||
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| Post# 672100 , Reply# 56 4/11/2013 at 21:37 (4,029 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada) | ||
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Outstanding Paul! | ||
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Porcelain goodness. Yummy. | ||
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Post# 672139 , Reply# 61 4/12/2013 at 05:32 (4,029 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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Congratulations! From the shot of her reposing in the back of the wagon, she looks amazingly clean underneath. Glad you had a safe trip. | ||
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Post# 672176 , Reply# 62 4/12/2013 at 10:14 (4,029 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Uggh drool drool ugghhg Wow Love the Canadiana graphics in Candian Black Red White!! So not US! Holla!
WOW get us under her skirt-- WAKE UP ITS A NEW DAY !!
love the "agitator-bizzare"! Love love love the SPRAY designation on the control AND that control knob-- SO 1940's Industrial Lab! My Dad had tons of equipment with this knob!!
GET UP PAUL!! WAKE UP!!
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Post# 672255 , Reply# 63 4/12/2013 at 16:16 (4,029 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Today's progress
unclejohn - I remember the Dominion grocery stores well! Their bakery made the best Mille-Feuilles, with real cream. OINK!!
After Jon's wake-up call, I figured the first thing would be to get the washer out of the 'restricted zone' (I had three emails from Hubby's lawyer about that already!). I managed to haul the washer down to the 'Canadian End' of the Ogden laundry. My new anti-inflammatory arthritis meds rock! 
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Post# 672256 , Reply# 64 4/12/2013 at 16:17 (4,029 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Post# 672259 , Reply# 66 4/12/2013 at 16:20 (4,029 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Post# 672260 , Reply# 67 4/12/2013 at 16:22 (4,029 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Post# 672265 , Reply# 71 4/12/2013 at 16:30 (4,029 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Oh nice! Paul, that looks like a bumper system for out of balance spin to me. Tub looks very beamish in style not execution. I wonder how fast it spins?? Love the pink!!
Is that kitchen grease wiped away around the reset button? If so then this is a HOLLA find! Kitchen machines are so much better than basement machines!!
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Post# 672266 , Reply# 72 4/12/2013 at 16:30 (4,029 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Post# 672267 , Reply# 73 4/12/2013 at 16:31 (4,029 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Post# 672268 , Reply# 74 4/12/2013 at 16:32 (4,029 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Post# 672269 , Reply# 75 4/12/2013 at 16:33 (4,029 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Post# 672275 , Reply# 78 4/12/2013 at 16:43 (4,029 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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The moment of truth...
GFI Outlet ready? - Check.
Power cord on machine OK and grounded? - Check Fire extinguisher handy? - Check I plugged the Dominion washer in and.... apart from the pretty lighted console, not much happened... I heard the solenoids buzz at the fill part of the cycle and I heard the timer motor humming. I manually advanced the timer to the 'wash' section on the timer. The lights dimmed slightly and I heard a buzz, but no motion from the agitator. I did not keep the power on for long, needless to say... So, I may have either a motor issue (starting capacitor is my first guess) OR something in the washing mechanism or drain pump has seized and is preventing the mechanism from turning. Tomorrow's tests will include trying to manually spin the pulleys (sounds like an automaticwasher.org-themed game show... LOL) and perhaps unhooking the drive belt to see if the motor starts up. Right - I had better get back to tonight's "But it's a rare Canadian machine - I HAVE to keep it" supper... Just hope my soufflé doesn't fall... 
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Post# 672287 , Reply# 79 4/12/2013 at 17:31 (4,029 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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FANTASTIQUE!
What an awesome find and a beautiful machine!
I LOVE this is a never-seen-one-before moment!
And two-tone PINK/white to boot, YAY!
CONGRATS again Paul!
ANY guesses on what year it is?? It looks more later-ish 50's than '60 - '61. This post was last edited 04/12/2013 at 18:36 | ||
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Right from the underside shot in the wagon
I knew you had a little worn gem. But when I say the spray rinse marked in a nice broken line, I got so excited and dreamy that I almost missed TWO TWO TWO deep rinses and TWO TWO TWO SPRAYS not just one and OH MY GOD, I blew my wad of gum out. This is a rinsaholics dream. Rinse, rinse rinse, rinse, Even Launderess would be satisfied. Move over Miele. LOL.
Gotta get googling and see where the hell you went, how far North. That Lake is full of ice. You must be very very happy. And be ready for amazing turnover because you have sharp extended fins. Tell Hubby this is a new beautiful pink and chrome Bread Box, that freezes and hold a year's supply. | ||
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Post# 672342 , Reply# 88 4/12/2013 at 21:34 (4,028 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Dominion! | ||
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Post# 672421 , Reply# 90 4/13/2013 at 09:29 (4,028 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Cool Dominion Washer Wow Paul you have come up with a washer I have never seen, worked on, or have any parts for, LOL. And other than a few common parts like the inlet valve it does appear to be a unique machine that was not made by one of the big manufactures that most of us are already familiar with.
That mechanical thing in the corner would be an unbalance mechanism, as Jon already pointed out. I would diffidently get the belt turning freely before you continue to try to make the motor run, if you think the capacitor is bad just jump it by connecting the leads together and see if the motor runs, then you know that it is bad.
I would guess that this washer was made from about 1958-1963, you can probably find a date on the inlet valve. | ||
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Post# 672663 , Reply# 91 4/14/2013 at 07:29 (4,027 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Saturday's explorations
Needless to say, I had to do some further investigation as to why the 'new' Dominion washer wouldn't run.
OH! And John was right, I found a date on the water valve that might be helpful in dating the washer - the date stamp was 7-58. This may well be a 1958 or 1959 model! I am going to try and do some more digging into this, too. I will be contacting that Museum in Welland County, Ontario that has GSW/Beatty Brothers archives! So, I wanted to get a good look under the skirt of the machine, so I flipped her on her back. It's a very simple mechanism - no levers, solenoids, or clutch pins that I could see... I did spot an oil drain port - I wonder if I may need to do an oil change at some point? 
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Post# 672667 , Reply# 95 4/14/2013 at 07:39 (4,027 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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I tried to turn the entire motor-belt-pulleys setup by hand - no luck.
However, when I unhooked the belt from the motor, the transmission and pump pulleys turned. The belt runs around a pulley in the middle of the machine, out to the transmission pulley, then back to the pump and motor. Surprisingly simple set-up! When I spun the transmission pulley, Hubby observed the tub start to turn; when I turned it the other direction, he said the agitator started to turn. WooHoo! The tranny seems good! So that leaves one last suspect - the motor. And needless to say, I could not turn the motor shaft by hand at all. 
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Post# 672669 , Reply# 96 4/14/2013 at 07:44 (4,027 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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I opened it up to look for anything obvious, but I did not see anything. I am not very good with motors either, so I am not sure what to look for either!
I'll more than likely take this to the local motor shop in Magog. After they stop laughing at me, I will remind them that they fixed the motors for both the Westy Laundromat and dryer... LOL Oh, and the motor, not surprisingly is a Canadian General Electric Home Laundry Motor. Not sure of the HP rating, but it's a 1725 rpm model, which I beleive is fairly common and it seems to be a reversible type. The original Inglis motor was a two-speed version of this motor, but not reversible. Sooo close!! 
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Post# 672683 , Reply# 98 4/14/2013 at 09:40 (4,027 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Absolutely beautiful Paul, and the transmission is like nothing we've seen before. The pump and agitator drive block look "Beam-esc", but the rest in for sure unique.
It is a wonderful save! Congratulations. The motor bearings are probably frozen and need replacing if they are ball bearings, or cleaning and greasing if they are sleeve bearings. Keep us posted! | ||
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Very nice.
Your washer still looks like a giant toy. I was expecting to see four giant D size batteries underneath. The agitator in your automatic is the same as the ones used in the Beatty wringer washers. Here is a picture of the factory your washer came out of. If you hurry, you could maybe get a tour before it closes? 
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Post# 673985 , Reply# 100 4/19/2013 at 14:47 (4,022 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Brian, I was thinking the same thing - I'll be pretty darn close on May 1st so it would almost be a shame not to!
In other news, I found out something about the motor when it took it in to the repair in Magog today. Ready for it?? It's fixed!! The bearings were gummed up so badly that that they had turned to goo - a good cleaning was all that was needed and the motor is humming again! Guess who will be re-installing it in the Dominion 'toy' washer this weekend?? I will post pictures and hopefully a video as I make progress. HEEEHEEE!! Oh, and in other other news, Hubby will be arriving in Ogden tonight to learn that the 57 GE washer has been mated with a 57 GE dryer. He didn't know that yet 'cause I'd been hiding the dryer in my neighbour's garage - This will be a whole other thread however! | ||
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*cough* And what goodies are you preparing to smooth over this news, pray tell? How cool is that motor fix? Tell the truth, you just had them put new batteries in, didn't you? | ||
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Like I said, Beatty put a lot of engineering into their appliances and they last FOREVER. | ||
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Can't wait Can't wait to see the video. This is such an interesting machine. The control board looks so toy like... the font so 50's Canadian... rubbing hands gleefully. IT'S SO PANK!!!!! | ||
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Post# 674169 , Reply# 104 4/20/2013 at 12:39 (4,021 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Needless to say, I made working on the washer a priority this morning.
Here's the motor, re-installed and tested to ensure there were no wiring or timer issues. I let the washer time run through a cycle to ensure the motor kicked in at the right time and was running in the right direction. The way I understand it, the motor will run clockwise to wash and counter-clockwise to spin. The tests were successful, but I did notice the timer dial pointer was not indicating the right phase of the cycle - this should be an easy adjustment, though. 
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Post# 674170 , Reply# 105 4/20/2013 at 12:41 (4,021 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Post# 674171 , Reply# 106 4/20/2013 at 12:42 (4,021 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Post# 674172 , Reply# 107 4/20/2013 at 12:45 (4,021 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Still some work to be done...
This afternoon's activity will be testing the water valve to make sure it is working correctly. My track record with them was not good last year so I'd like to avoid the 'put it back together then find another **expletive** leak'... LOL
Also, I will try and get a water test this weekend. I have high hopes that there will only be a few issues with leakage, but we shall see! | ||
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Post# 674223 , Reply# 110 4/20/2013 at 17:31 (4,021 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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GRRRR!
Well, I tested the water valve and to not much surprise, I found that the valve still dribbled water when all three solenoids were off.
I figured a good cleaning was in order - there were some hard water deposits and scale that I was able to remove, but when I put the blessed thing back together, it was still dribbling. Worse still, around the hot solenoid was now leaking... I am not sure if a valve rebuild kit would be helpful here or if I should give up and try to find a replacement solenoid. The replacement option is vexing me, however... I did a cycle test to determine when/how the three solenoids got power. The 'warm' settings on the machine would send power to the warm or middle solenoid, which I will guess would allow both hot and cold water to flow. There was no simultaneous powering of the hot and cold solenoids... Something tells me that a three-solenoid water valve like this is going to be tough to find. I do believe that older Maytags use this kind of a set up - however, I remember that when I found a valve for my A702, I was told it was 'the last one they had'... Any suggestions as to what might be a suitable replacement here?? I am soooooo close on this one but I am throwing in the towel for tonight. I may still try a water test tomorrow to see how vell its holds vater... I'll sleep on that... LOL 
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Post# 674227 , Reply# 111 4/20/2013 at 18:00 (4,021 days old) by d-jones (Western Pennsylvania (Pittsburgh Area)) |
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 Paul - I may be wrong, but that looks like an older Eaton CW-26 valve, and it shouldn't be too hard to find a replacement for it. The CW-26 was Eaton's generic replacement for the extremely hard to find Dole thermostatic valve. I would personally move heaven and earth in an attempt to repair an original Dole valve, but not an Eaton valve. The Horton 221 is another suitable replacement that actually looks like the Dole valve from the outside. There's one currently for sale on eBay, but it's a little over priced in my opinion. I've seen them online recently for a bit less. A Google search of CW-26 in quotations along with the word valve, will turn up several online sources for the Eaton valve as well.
Here's a photo of the same Eaton valve that I found installed on my A700. Note the newer solenoids, but other than that it's a dead ringer for the valve you have there. Since I have no intention of using this valve going forward, if you can't find another replacement I'll send you this one. It was working fine for the previous owner, though I've never tried it out myself. CLICK HERE TO GO TO d-jones's LINK on eBay 
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Post# 674252 , Reply# 112 4/20/2013 at 20:24 (4,021 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Inlet Valve Problems Paul all you likely need is new valve diaphragms to fix your old valve, David, djones did a post here about replacing this part. I would never take apart a valve that old and not replace the valve diaphragms, it usually only makes matters worse. If you want I will send you three new valve diaphragms. | ||
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Post# 674259 , Reply# 113 4/20/2013 at 21:09 (4,020 days old) by d-jones (Western Pennsylvania (Pittsburgh Area)) |
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Of course John is right about that post I did and I should have mentioned that. You may very well want to try that before replacing the valve.
Here's a link to that thread. CLICK HERE TO GO TO d-jones's LINK | ||
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Post# 674720 , Reply# 114 4/22/2013 at 17:40 (4,019 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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David, thanks for reposting the link about valve repairs - I had forgotten about that thread.
John, I'd definitely be interested in getting the replacement diaphragms for the Dominion washer valve. They seem to be 1 inch in diameter - here's a photo for reference. I'll get in touch with you this week for further information. Oh and I did not get the chance to water test the washer yet - spent the day Sunday at an estate auction. It cost me the day, but it was worth it!! 
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Post# 675834 , Reply# 115 4/27/2013 at 17:03 (4,014 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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This weekend's progress....
I had a pretty busy day planned today - I desparately needed to do some housework and there was tons of yard work to be done now that it's actually stopped snowing... BUT I made darn sure that while the Banana Chiffon Cake was baking, I'd have time to play appliance repair guy!
I wanted to try a water test with the 'new' Dominion washer - however, I was afraid of finding major leaks so I tried a backflow test. I ran water through the drain hose and into the pump and up into the tub. I figured this would be less water than a full tub of water... LOL Well, needless to say, there were leaks... The hoses from the tub to the pump and from the pump to the drain hose itself were drippy. AND there was a leak from around the pump housing. The poor old Dominion got up-ended once again so that I could investigate. So here's the first culprit... The pump cover had a gasket and I must have wrecked it when I did my initial inspection of the pump. Should be reasonably easy to find or make a replacement, though. 
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Post# 677240 , Reply# 119 5/4/2013 at 17:38 (4,007 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Some progress, but.....
So this past week's mission was to replace the cracked hoses from the tub to the pump and from the pump to the drain port. I tried a few appliance places, got laughed at so I tried some auto parts places and got laughed at again... I tried one of the larger hardware stores and came away with this 1 1/4 reinforced flexible hose. Looked promising!
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Post# 677246 , Reply# 123 5/4/2013 at 17:46 (4,007 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Everything looked good on reassembly, so I figured it would time to try a water test. As with the previous attempt, I backflowed water through the drain hose into the pump rather than fill the tub and attempt a drain cycle.
There was a bit of drip coming from the pump housing, however... So I figured the bolt holding the pump cover in place just needed tightening.... 
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Post# 677247 , Reply# 124 5/4/2013 at 17:51 (4,007 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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And I tightened it alright.... Till I heard the 'SNAP'....
I managed to break this brace that holds the pump cover in place. I am now going to have a lot fun trying to find a replacement for this... And you can imagine how colourful my language was (mostly blue...). I could kick myself for not being more careful!! Now, something tells me that other washer pumps have a similar design. I tried a brace from a Westinghouse Laundromat pump - close but not quite... I don't know why but I seem to think that Maytags have a similar set up, but I am not sure. OR maybe as had been suggested for the gasket, a Speed Queen wringer model may have a similar pump. If anyone has any thoughts or suggestions, please, please let me know... 
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Post# 677273 , Reply# 127 5/4/2013 at 20:19 (4,007 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Broken Pump Cover Clamp This part looks just like the clamp used on SQ and several Beam designed machines, but I have no way of knowing if one of these other clamps would work without having your old one to make a comparison. Paul you could also try buying 2 or 3 small C clamps and just use these to hold the cover in place. If you measure the diameter of your pump plate where the tabs of the clamp grab the body of the pump I could see if a SQ clamp would work, John. | ||
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Check Ebay I searched for "Speed Queen Pump" on Ebay, since your pump looks lots like my wringer washer's pump. Maybe that clamp is the same?
Also, the clamp looks similar to a gear puller, left permanently installed? Google up GEAR PULLER and check the images. But leaving a gear puller installed requires quite more space than the pump clamp. CLICK HERE TO GO TO akronman's LINK on eBay 
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Post# 678392 , Reply# 129 5/9/2013 at 14:07 (4,002 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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John may have a pump bracket that will work here. Not that I was giving up yet!! LOL
I was in the Wellington County area of Ontario yesterday with Brian (rpms) and we visited the Wellington County Museum Archives. I had located a few interesting-looking documents related to Dominion appliances and I wanted to see them for myself. It was well worth it!! The washer I have is indeed a 1958 model. I found the owners manual and operating instructions for this exact washer in the archives (I made a copy, natch!!) and a fabulous colour ad for it, with the pink version as the star of the ad. Seeing the matched dryer in the ad made me sad to think that the matching dryer to this washer has now been turned into a Kia... Can't win them all, I suppose... Oh, and this model was the MOL one, called the 'Twinamatic'. I don't get the name, 'cause I immediately pictured some kind of twin-tub unit when I read that name. There was a very basic model with preset wash and rinse temps, no lighted control panel, and possibly only 1 fill level. BUT there was also a 'Wondermatic' model with an electric bleach dispenser. I could have spent a couple of DAYS in those appliance archives - I would very much like to go back there and see the washers they have in their storage area!! | ||
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If you end up stymied on the clamp let me know. There isn't much to that part and it would be easy enough to simply machine a replacement out of a piece of aluminum plate. You will break the pump before you break a billet part! Don't destroy the original clamp, it would be important for replicating the replacement part. Awesome project you have going there! Let me know if I can lend a hand. Phil | ||
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Post# 678433 , Reply# 132 5/9/2013 at 17:39 (4,002 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Post# 678511 , Reply# 134 5/10/2013 at 07:55 (4,001 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Post# 678515 , Reply# 135 5/10/2013 at 08:04 (4,001 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Paul, measure the inside of the bracket from the clip edge to the cross-arm, I think this won't be a problem, you just need another one. As John and Jon said, this is a Beam pump and I'll bet they were identical to the SQ pumps in use then. I know I have a couple of the clamps in the SQ parts box, I will dig one out and measure so we can compare. If you need one, I'll get it in the mail. You might try using a cork gasket in the pump cover. Cork is more forgiving of rough edges and uneven sealing faces of things like this.
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Post# 678531 , Reply# 136 5/10/2013 at 09:32 (4,001 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Post# 678772 , Reply# 138 5/11/2013 at 17:56 (4,000 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Got the measurements for the clamp: between the two hooks is about 3.5 inches and the distance from the bottom of the clamp to the bottom of the hooks is about 2 inches. The inside diameter of the clamp is 4 inches.
I can't seem to find the hook part that broke off - I figured it feel somewhere in the washer cabinet, but nope... If anyone might know what the dimensions of the SQ pump are, please let me know! | ||
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Paul HI Paul, sorry to hear about the bracket. I have an Easy spindrier with the same set up for the pump. I wonder if that would work? Just a thought. Good luck, Gary | ||
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Post# 683232 , Reply# 143 6/9/2013 at 15:26 (3,971 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Back in town and guess what I had to play with??
Yep, after getting the essential chores done here in Ogden yesterday, I wanted to take another run at the Dominion washer. Armed with some new parts, I was ready to put that pump back together again!
When I was in Beltsville a few weeks ago, I got some drain hoses from newer washer pumps from John. I replaced the more rigid pressure hose with them - I figured they might have been too rigid and these newer hoses look more like the original ones - bonus! 
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Post# 683233 , Reply# 144 6/9/2013 at 15:28 (3,971 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Post# 683247 , Reply# 150 6/9/2013 at 15:59 (3,971 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Last activity for today - the control dial was not pointing the right position on the timer dial so I had to adjust it. After all, it can hardly be considered an automatic washer if one can't be sure what phase of the cycle it's in!
I'm leaving it at this for now - the sun came out in Ogden and we have a fallen tree to remove from the front yard... Next, I'll install that new water valve and try a fill test. After that will be the big one - a full-cycle wash test!! 
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Post# 687925 , Reply# 153 7/8/2013 at 08:15 (3,942 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Dominion Day!
I've been down in Ogden since the long Canada Day weekend (preparing for a mega garage sale with my neighbours) and since Canada Day was once known as Dominion Day, well I just had to take a run at getting the 58 Dominion Automatic to fill by itself.
The NOS three-solenoid water valve I got in June for this machine was not a direct replacement, alas. The first attempts to use it to fill the machine resulted in a tub only 3/4 full of water. We can't have THAT now, can we? I bounced ideas around with John (combo52) and Phil (philr) about this - I should, thanks to John, be able to rebuild the original valve soon, but for the moment, I tried swapping the flow washers from the old valve into the new one. It did the trick! However, I was still not happy with the temperature of the warm water selection... I tried shifting the wiring on the solenoids around in various combinations and permutations but it just made things worse. I fiddled, futzed, finagled for forever... After so much f-ing around, I said 'Forget this!' and decided to reinstall the valve in an 'almost working' state. HA! Had I bothered to look at the positioning of the solenoids on the NOS valve, I might have noticed that when reinstalled the terminals for the warm solenoid would touch the wash tub. Real smart of me... OY!! I flipped it around and had to re-arrange the wiring to suit. Well, I lost whatever warm wash options I may have had... The wash came up as Hot (when the hot button was pushed) or Cold (when the warm button was pushed). Rinsing is now only in Cold (but that bugs me less)... I'll get this right someday soon but for now I had to get the washer back together and out of the middle of the basement floor... 
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Post# 688170 , Reply# 156 7/9/2013 at 08:02 (3,941 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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The very first All Canadian "Reveal®" Holla!
Well Quebec is famous for its Hydro Electric capability and Dominion has applied Canadian water to its maximum with its famous
"Domin-0-Lint" patented rinsing system. Makes perfect sense!
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Post# 688207 , Reply# 157 7/9/2013 at 12:38 (3,941 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Instant spray in both spins ~ ecstasty!
That immedia-spray, simultaneous with the wash spin, was such a surprise--really!--and to see it again on the rinse spin was sheer delight. Lordy, Lordy, does the Dominion ever rinse; in fact, every rinse in the playbook is present. We rarely see a static overflow AND an agitated one in the same machine. Rinseaholic Heaven.
Have you tried the giant, year-supply, pink bread-box trick on Hubby yet? : -> The whole movie was so nice, with the "back in a minute" technique like Kevin uses in his food videos, so that the washer filling and the mixer mixing don't eat up the time. Wonderful. | ||
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Post# 688662 , Reply# 163 7/11/2013 at 07:38 (3,939 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Gawd I just love that lab Knob on the timer!!!
Its cool how at wash/spin and rinse/spin it starts CCW then corrects to CW spin, almost like it changed its mind.
And the "Eat at Paul's" lighted taxi-cab display top is a crowning achievement of unique washer design!!
One very unique machine Paul, great save!! I give it 5 agitators!
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