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Does Speed Queen make any washers for Sears Kenmore?
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Post# 671991   4/11/2013 at 13:37 (4,026 days old) by roger (Pennsylvania)        

In Canada, Speed Queen(Alliance Laundry System)is sold under the Huebsch Commercial banner with basically the same model numbers and warranty.

They also make a line for a department store which they sell at a lower price, but also has only a one or two year warranty [they ironically badged under the "Eurodesign" name :) ]

Since Sears Kenmore has their machines made for them, anyone know if there is a Speed Queen in Kenmore clothing?







Post# 671996 , Reply# 1   4/11/2013 at 14:50 (4,026 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
Unfortunately No.

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There are not even many Whirlpool built machines left in the KM lineup. Sadly most now are made by LG and Samsung. They share little more than a name with the high performace, durable Kenmores made by Whirlpool in the past. A SQ built line could bring some credibility back to the KM name though.
WK78


Post# 672008 , Reply# 2   4/11/2013 at 16:01 (4,026 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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Which store sells these rebadged SQ's ?

Post# 672052 , Reply# 3   4/11/2013 at 18:31 (4,026 days old) by roger (Pennsylvania)        

Hi Petek,

I saw the "Eurodesign" ones at a Tanguay store a few years ago. Had no idea who made them but noticed the "Made in Usa by Aliance Laundry System" sticker. Googled it and discovered it was Speed Queen, and in Canada it was sold under the Huebsch name.

Decided to go across the street to the Corbeil store and pay a little more to get a Huebsch for the longer warranty...also for the fact that the Tanguay salesman was a complete jacka$$.




Here is a link to a Huebsch Canada dealer locator:


home.huebsch.com/...




Perhaps other chains carry the "Eurodesign", might be worth contacting Huebsch directly.



link to Tanguay's "Eurodesign"

www.tanguay.ca/catalogue-...






Post# 672055 , Reply# 4   4/11/2013 at 18:41 (4,026 days old) by roger (Pennsylvania)        

WK78,

that is too bad.

They always used to have one very basic, but very solid model.

I guess Kenmore is now Kenless ;)


Post# 672059 , Reply# 5   4/11/2013 at 19:17 (4,026 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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Alliance topload washers and matching dryers are also sold under Continental Girbau's "Econ-O-Wash" line. I have this washer in the coin-op version. It was about $600 less than what Speed Queen wanted for the exact same machine. I'd like to get the Speed Queen Quantum control panel for my machine though... Maybe someday!



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Post# 672161 , Reply# 6   4/12/2013 at 08:26 (4,025 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        
671996

Whirlykenmore, I just don't get it on the stock market site when they discuss the value of the Kenmore/ craftsman Brands. I too think the quality has left the brands. They may have a few sales left, i doubt many of those will be repeat shoppers for appliances. The public will go through a learning curve soon I hope.

Post# 672165 , Reply# 7   4/12/2013 at 08:49 (4,025 days old) by thefixer ()        

"that is too bad....They always used to have one very basic, but very solid model....I guess Kenmore is now Kenless ;)"

Whirlpool stopped making the direct drive design three years ago except for commercial units and washer/dryer combo's. Now they have the belt drive piece of junk that is sold under the Kenmore name, among several others.

Eric



Post# 672169 , Reply# 8   4/12/2013 at 09:31 (4,025 days old) by golittlesport (California)        
Funny

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The Speed Queen "Econ-o-wash" says it is constructed for unmatched longevity -- which is explained as a lifespan of 5 to 7 years at 4 to 6 loads a day. That's longevity? My how times have changed! I wonder if this machine has the "grey-water rinse?"

Post# 672204 , Reply# 9   4/12/2013 at 12:38 (4,025 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

And Frigidaire/Electrolux also made a few models for Kenmore too. I don't know if they still do. They had a version of the FriGEmore machines.

Post# 672232 , Reply# 10   4/12/2013 at 14:40 (4,025 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        
Econ-O-Wash longevity

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Think about it, worst case scenario (4 loads a day for 5 years), that's 7,300 loads of laundry. Doing 7 loads a week at home it'll still last 20 years.

It does have the grey water rinse as an option, but it's not required. It's set up so that the user can make that choice. It has Regular, Permanent Press, and Delicate with the grey water rinse, and it has the same three cycles again with a full deep rinse like an old machine.


Post# 672278 , Reply# 11   4/12/2013 at 17:07 (4,025 days old) by roger (Pennsylvania)        

What is a grey water rinse?


...A week ago I would never have guessed I would be spending so much time on a washing machine forum :)


Post# 672328 , Reply# 12   4/12/2013 at 20:36 (4,025 days old) by golittlesport (California)        
OK

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Well, I guess if you put it that way, Jamie....

:-)


Post# 672337 , Reply# 13   4/12/2013 at 21:17 (4,025 days old) by Huebschman (Quebec, CA)        
Eurodesign

Roger,

Few years ago while reserching washerson the net prior to buying my Heubsch set, I saw a post saying that Alliance unloaded a batch of older models they haven't sold and that Tanguay and Breault & Martineau (same company) bought a batch.

Look at the first 2 digits of the serial number (manufacturing year) and get back to us. I would put my hand in fire that it starts with "06".


Post# 672350 , Reply# 14   4/12/2013 at 22:41 (4,025 days old) by roger (Pennsylvania)        

Huebschman,

That was about 3.5 years ago, and haven't been back there since.

At the time they said there was a 2-3 week wait as they didn't have any in stock and refused to sell us the floor model...not good when you have already been withiut a washer for 10 days.

We got a Huebsch from the Corbeil across the street instead.




Post# 672417 , Reply# 15   4/13/2013 at 09:17 (4,024 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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Roger, the grey water rinse in Speed Queen topload washers is quite icky and I'm glad they seem to be doing away with it! Basically, the machine would fill up for the wash, agitate, drain away half of the water, fill back up and agitate again. (The second agitation was the rinse.) So the rinse water was half fresh water and half dirty wash water. Yell

 

Golittlesport, sorry if I sounded a bit short, I just really love my machine. Smile


Post# 672423 , Reply# 16   4/13/2013 at 09:46 (4,024 days old) by Huebschman (Quebec, CA)        
Eurodesign

To Roger.

Well Roger, did the same thing you did about 3.5 years ago too and walked right across the street to Corbeil...

Looks like we're living in the same city.

Will go take a look at Eurodesign's serial number this weekend...


Post# 672439 , Reply# 17   4/13/2013 at 11:53 (4,024 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        
Grey Water Rinsing

That just wouldn't work for us especially with my detergent sensitivity. How long has this been going on with Speed Queen? Is this on all SQ toploaders?

Post# 672504 , Reply# 18   4/13/2013 at 16:14 (4,024 days old) by roger (Pennsylvania)        

Pulsator:

Thanks for the grey water definition...it's disgusting! Knowing that washers never drain 100%, means that you start each wash in the previous user's "juice".


Just out of curiosity, was your washer much more expensive than a home laundry Speed Queen? Can you give us a ballpark figure of what your washer cost?






Huebschman:

Their main selling point back then was that it was the same machine, with an inferior warranty to sell at a lower price. Is that still the case?






Post# 672639 , Reply# 19   4/13/2013 at 23:51 (4,024 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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My machine was priced at $900, plus tax and delivery it totaled $1,120.

Post# 672978 , Reply# 20   4/15/2013 at 17:13 (4,022 days old) by roger (Pennsylvania)        

Pulsator:

Thanks for the information, it's good to know.


Whirlcool:

I just double-checked mine, a 3.5 year old Huebsch (the name Speed Queen uses in Canada) and it does NOT have a grey water rinse...quite relieved actually!


Post# 674370 , Reply# 21   4/21/2013 at 10:44 (4,016 days old) by huebschman (Quebec, CA)        
Euro Design

Yep, Still in production. Serial number starts with 12. Warm rince available (not the same energy restrictions here in CA). Bet it also fill all the way up. Damn... forgot to check the price!

Sorry, will get back to you...


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Post# 674373 , Reply# 22   4/21/2013 at 10:45 (4,016 days old) by huebschman (Quebec, CA)        
Euro Design

Link does not work... 2nd try.

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Post# 674376 , Reply# 23   4/21/2013 at 10:50 (4,016 days old) by huebschman (Quebec, CA)        
Euro Design

Sorry. Still not working.

Not using the "URL link to share" box this time:

www.tanguay.ca/fr/subcat/...


Post# 674527 , Reply# 24   4/21/2013 at 19:41 (4,016 days old) by huebschman (Quebec, CA)        
EuroDesign

Got the price:

www.tanguay.ca/catalogue-...

Glad to have paid $60 more (than the reg price) to have the Huebsch/SQ stylish control panel/knobs and the 3 year waranty (vs 2 for the EuroDesign). And the EuroDesign waher is actually smaller than the dryer.


Post# 674551 , Reply# 25   4/21/2013 at 22:24 (4,016 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Little Greys

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How far we've come .....-er, regressed.

In the heyday of automatics, the grey rinse was the first of 2, sometimes 3 rinses. In fact, depending on brand and water level, often 2/3's or more of the wash water was drained away. No one in their most generous moment ever called even this deeper draining a rinse. It was a cool-down, followed, in some Whirlpool family machines, by a second cool-down, then a spin, spray rinses, and finally a full deep rinse, AND THEN even more spray rinses.

When I first heard of the grey (aka, alien ;'D ) rinses I thought it was an exaggeration. Are you sure it doesn't drain all of the water away and simply not spin?

So much for wishful hyperbole.

The new GE's drain for over six minutes, and proceed to rinse without spinning and rinse in less than half a tub full of water, unless you flip a switch. Then you get a full spin a a full rinse fill.

Are there washers out there that actually only allow a grey rinse, period, with no option out?


Post# 674574 , Reply# 26   4/22/2013 at 00:58 (4,016 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)        

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