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Post# 673767   4/18/2013 at 15:11 (4,023 days old) by Maturasigma ()        

It is now 2 month ago, becouse iīve bought my nice shiny bright new washerdryer. And now I can said, it is a realy great machine. It washes perfect, very quiet with the IQdrve Motor and at drying it is quiet too. The resoult of the spin is fantastic and the drying too. It drys exact at the chousen programm. Nothing is wet.
The design at this machine is brilliant! The VERY big Display and the blue lightning Programmswitch and Start-Button make it complete. As an extra fuction it has an drumlight.
But the most great is, It needs only 3 Liters of water at the drxyingcycle, and that only to clean the condenser.
If you think you would buy it too, I can said: JUST DO IT!
If you donīt see the video, here is the link


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Post# 673866 , Reply# 1   4/19/2013 at 04:42 (4,022 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)        

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Thanks for sharing the video !

Seems to be a very well engineered machine. I had no idea the thermo spin is back.


Post# 674014 , Reply# 2   4/19/2013 at 16:26 (4,022 days old) by miele4life (UK )        

I've seen the YouTube vids of it and it's very nice, I look forward 2 seeing more of it, I only wish I had a collection as big as yours lol :)

Post# 674046 , Reply# 3   4/19/2013 at 18:15 (4,022 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

Is it made in China like the Bosch branded ones?

Post# 674047 , Reply# 4   4/19/2013 at 18:19 (4,022 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

Oh well, I just saw it myself, it indeed is made in China, would never buy one, ever!

Post# 674433 , Reply# 5   4/21/2013 at 13:06 (4,020 days old) by Maturasigma ()        

The Bosch Washer/Dryer is axact the samme, only the display is a bit smaller. But with the reason it is made in China, it would be get high quality materials foor build.
I like it to wash and dry nonstop with it. It uses no water for drying. I have an Privileg (electrolux) washer/dryer and that uses 20L of water per drying cycle. and the load comes not so great out how from the Siemens.


Post# 674434 , Reply# 6   4/21/2013 at 13:07 (4,020 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Interesting machine! Thank you for sharing your video.

Post# 674676 , Reply# 7   4/22/2013 at 14:42 (4,019 days old) by splittub (Europe)        

A mid-to-high-end washing machine, from a German brand, sold in Europe, but made in China?! I would have thought that if Chinese-made machines were sold in the European market, that they would only be very low-end ones, but apparently not...

Post# 674681 , Reply# 8   4/22/2013 at 14:50 (4,019 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

That said, Bosch/Siemens is no longer upmarket...

Post# 674881 , Reply# 9   4/23/2013 at 05:26 (4,018 days old) by Aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Very nice machine, even if it is made in china,


We have just bought a bosch machine similar in design and its ben brilliant so far despite its likely country of origin.

Washes very well and isprogrammed nicely.

How you enjoy it for many years to come.



Post# 675415 , Reply# 10   4/25/2013 at 10:20 (4,016 days old) by Maturasigma ()        

the washer/dryer from Bosch and Siemens would be come from china, only that the chinese have the patent of the condensing system.

Post# 675634 , Reply# 11   4/26/2013 at 13:20 (4,015 days old) by mrx ()        

While I don't agree with moving so much European and American manufacturing to China and I absolutely do not agree with how the Chinese Government works in a totally non-democratic way. However, there's no particular reason why a product built in China would be of low quality at that price.

Loads of really good products are built in China. Lots of really bad products are also made in China, the fact that they're made in China has nothing to do with their quality though.

Let's not forget that in the 1950s Made in Japan used to mean something was likely to be of poor quality and probably just a copy of some established brand. That changed very dramatically.

I see China starting to move that way too with more and more innovation coming from China e.g. companies like Huawei in the telecommunications sector are actually now really serious players with their own technology and R&D.

I do think however, it's very sad to see Bosch and Siemens moving their manufacturing bases out of Europe, especially when people are crying out for jobs.

BSH was once a really big employer in Spain for example, where there is now 27% unemployment and an impending social disaster unfolding.

I honestly think we're going to have to roll back on globalisation if it's just going to mean massive job losses. Politically speaking, it's not sustainable.

I'm wondering if this EU-US free trade agreement being negotiated at the moment could end up creating a big EU-US block that could perhaps help EU and US manufacturing to stage a comeback?

At least in that case, the two blocs are democracies with similar standards of living, high environmental standards etc etc.


Post# 675641 , Reply# 12   4/26/2013 at 13:50 (4,015 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, Thereīs a Lady on Stage)        
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You'd be surprised just how much goods even from some high to very high end European brands are now made in China. From fine Italian clothing to high end appliances, going from the south to north.

In their defense many European companies/businesses say they can no longer afford the high labour costs, especially in the new global market.

Will also agree "made in China" does not always equal rubbish. Production is only as good as R&D, execution and so forth. If rubbish in put in, then rubbish will come out.



Post# 675668 , Reply# 13   4/26/2013 at 16:29 (4,015 days old) by nrones ()        
It's Euro/US's people's fault, and they deserve

Speaking for Europe now...
Manufacturers like Beko, Vestel, Samsung, LG made situation like it is now - with generous help of consumers, of course.

Before late 90's (when these brands showed up), there were manufacturers that were there for years, their quality varied, but one thing was sure - they were more expencive than they are today (compared to average payments) and made in UK, Germany, Italy, France, Sweeden, Spain....then suddenly a Turkish and Chinese machine appeared in store, that were dramaticly cheaper, offering similar build quality.

During years, such companies grown so much! They've grown so much because PEOPLE were buying them, and putting manufacturers from their country aside, making them uncompetitive.

Then european manufacturers followed the rule, and one by one started closing their factories, and moving first to countries like Poland, Chezc republic, Slovakia, and then to China. (some of them disappeared halfway like AEG, Hoover, Servis, Hotpoint, Otsein and much more...)

Then, when 1000's of jobs were lost, the same people who might have, at least once (but majority of them more times) gone for the cheaper option, are so schocked and surprised....

...well, there's nothing to be surprised about, really.

That's my 2p ;)

Dex



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