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Frigidaire WO-65-2 rescued
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Post# 674806   4/22/2013 at 21:57 (4,014 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Ben found a CL listing in St. Joseph, MO for a Frigidaire washer and found it was a WO-65-2! We had family in town this weekend but, when the pulsator beckons... I picked it up Sunday morning, only 1.75 hours from me. The poor dear was pretty filthy but seemed to perk up a bit and smile when I gave her a first wipedown. The first step in restoration is to bring back a little dignity!

It's in lovely condition, no oil leaks, motor shaft and pump are free and easy to turn. I tried a quick test but the motor capacitor is bad. Rather than stab at each individual issue, I'm going to put the time into a full-on restore so will try to get into it this weekend.





Post# 674808 , Reply# 1   4/22/2013 at 21:58 (4,014 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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First bath

Post# 674810 , Reply# 2   4/22/2013 at 21:59 (4,014 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Money shot

Post# 674818 , Reply# 3   4/22/2013 at 22:08 (4,014 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Congrats Greg, that is a very nice save. arthur

Post# 674819 , Reply# 4   4/22/2013 at 22:09 (4,014 days old) by jetaction (Minneapolis)        
Pulsating day ahead....

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Fun weekend project ahead for sure, congrats!

Post# 674842 , Reply# 5   4/23/2013 at 00:09 (4,014 days old) by Northwesty (Renton, WA)        
These are certainly gettin rarer

Hope the restoration is a smooth one

(still using those 51's)


Post# 674885 , Reply# 6   4/23/2013 at 06:05 (4,014 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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OOO! Great save, Greg! So nice to see that the original pulsator is still there, too. Hope the restoration goes well - can't wait to see more about this one!

Congratulations!


Post# 674889 , Reply# 7   4/23/2013 at 06:19 (4,014 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Thanks for sharing

I see the original pulsator was replaced with a Three Ring Pump Agitator. Pretty neat.

Post# 674912 , Reply# 8   4/23/2013 at 09:01 (4,014 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Cool - glad the trip to St. Jo was worth it.  Looking forward to seeing this girl come to life.  Love that the Frigidaire crest badge shines brightly in the photo above!

 

Ben


Post# 674916 , Reply# 9   4/23/2013 at 09:22 (4,014 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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That machine looks really nice Greg, great save! It really is amazing how many 1950-1954 Frigidaire washers we've all found over the years.

Post# 674931 , Reply# 10   4/23/2013 at 11:08 (4,014 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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Wow Greg, that's AWESOME!   CONGRATS on this, VERY cool!

 

I too am looking forward to seeing / reading about it's resto and being awakened from a long sleep!

 

Kevin


Post# 674953 , Reply# 11   4/23/2013 at 12:33 (4,014 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Nice Save

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Now you'll have secure double rinsing! No more wondering if clothes are rinsed for sure!!

I agree Full-On Restore is the way to go these days for long life service!


Post# 674956 , Reply# 12   4/23/2013 at 12:42 (4,014 days old) by retromania (Anderson, South Carolina)        
I Love....

love...love...love...old vintage appliances!!!

Post# 674969 , Reply# 13   4/23/2013 at 13:58 (4,014 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Nice save, good luck with 'er!


Post# 675034 , Reply# 14   4/23/2013 at 19:26 (4,013 days old) by appnut (TX)        
Now you'll have secure double rinsing!

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Uhh, isn't the WO65-2 the first Frigidaire with overflow rinsing and not two deep rinses? Oh, and BTW, congrats!!!

Post# 675067 , Reply# 15   4/23/2013 at 22:15 (4,013 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)        

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Awesome find, good luck on the restoration

Post# 675121 , Reply# 16   4/24/2013 at 07:32 (4,013 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
WO-65-2

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Great save Greg, it is amazing how many of these have turned up over the years, I got the same machine from my cousins about 15 years ago and it has only had minor problems, it seems to me by the time Frigidaire built the WO-65-2 model they had improved a lot of items and the Unimatic Mechanism was really about as good as it was going to get.  It also seems that a lot of these early Unimatics were often put aside for newer machines with little often really wrong with them, people that could afford this washer in the first place often were in a better position to buy a newer fancier machine than most consumers. And many other users just got tired of the tangled wrinkled clothing and the vibration problems that these washers sometimes had.

 

I really like this washer for washing really dirty loads of cleaning towels, white socks, underwear, etc., these loads I always wash hot and add LCB near the end of the wash cycle. And while this was the first FD model to have the overflow rinse instead of two deep rinses I converted mine back by using an older timer and timer dial because the two rinses do a much better job rinsing away the LCB smell that the overflow rinse does. The overflow rinse was a good idea for many users as it largely solved problems of soap scum residue on clean clothing when these washer were used with soap or in hard water areas.


Post# 675269 , Reply# 17   4/24/2013 at 17:47 (4,012 days old) by washer111 ()        

For its age, that machine is in impressive condition! I'm glad you've found it (and another machine is saved from scrap)! 

 

Once you've restored it completely (if that is the path you will choose), I'm thinking it will look better than new. Good luck with all your work


Post# 675353 , Reply# 18   4/25/2013 at 01:46 (4,012 days old) by stan (Napa CA)        
This is

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one of my favorites vintage appliances. While I don't have one, I've always been intrigued by them!
So happy for the save.
Good luck, and keep us posted with your progress!


Post# 675381 , Reply# 19   4/25/2013 at 06:50 (4,012 days old) by frigidaireguy (Wiston-Salem, NC)        

I also have a WO-65-2 (1954) that I got about 7 yrs. ago. I use it like John said to do towels and whites. It has never had anything done to it except I had to have the timer rebuilt when I first got it. I also use Clorox added 5 minutes before the overflow rinse starts. I then just run it back thru a short wash cycle therefore getting 2 rinses to rinse out the bleach smell. It is my favorite washer and if loaded properly you never get the tangling. Glad you saved this one and best of luck with the restoration.
Bob


Post# 676355 , Reply# 20   4/30/2013 at 00:50 (4,007 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
loved looking at your thread

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here of that beautiful old frigidaire! another machine rescued and given a new life! there is nothing like an old frigidaire washer! congrats!

Post# 677530 , Reply# 21   5/5/2013 at 19:47 (4,001 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Work continues on the new arrival, and the source of washer-abandonment quickly becomes clear. The clutch-torque spring at the bottom of the mechanism is broken making spin all but impossible.

Post# 677531 , Reply# 22   5/5/2013 at 19:51 (4,001 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Never come across this before, a previous servicer had tapped the soft pot metal pump impeller around the screw to keep the screw from loosening and causing loose impeller syndrome and acute fan chatter.

This is a viable solution while replacement parts are widely available, but that is no longer the case for a 60 year old washer so I won't be doing it, but thought it was interesting.

I simply cut away the extra pot metal with a Dremel. This washer has sat dry for many years so the parts are coming apart pretty easily.


Post# 677534 , Reply# 23   5/5/2013 at 19:58 (4,001 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Current state of the workbench. The transmission parts are ready for cleaning, the pump gasket is cut and ready, water valve rebuilt. A long process, but it will be worth it to have a very reliable washer in the end.

I will put a new clutch torque spring in, a new oil pump and seal assembly and probably a new (or better) water pump impeller.

More to come!


Post# 677569 , Reply# 24   5/5/2013 at 23:14 (4,001 days old) by golittlesport (California)        
you da Unimatic man, Greg!

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Brings back memories of when you and Robert rebuilt the 55. It will purr when you are done.

Post# 677589 , Reply# 25   5/6/2013 at 01:55 (4,001 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Nice

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thorough work Greg, as always. But how did you cut such a nice round pump gasket?? It looks original. 

In all the Unimatics I've worked on I have never come across a broken torque spring yet you and Robert seem to find them all over.

I wonder if it was a run of them sold in the MidWest.

 

You splurged on the royal purple - good on you! You won't regret how smooth it will run after 5-7 washes are done and its worked all in! Stuff is amazing in my GE , Bendix Duo's & Charcoal machines.

 

Those oil pump kits are scarce as hens teeth!!

 

Are you gonna change out the spin bearing now that its all apart??

 

 


Post# 677598 , Reply# 26   5/6/2013 at 06:03 (4,001 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
All I can think of...

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Is Aretha Franklin's song "Rescue Me".

Everytime I see the title of this thread. LOL


Post# 677612 , Reply# 27   5/6/2013 at 07:39 (4,001 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
I learned from Robert - he da man!

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I will change the spin bearing but the only tool I don't have is the bearing removal tool! Robert & Fred will bring that with them next week and I'll have him inspect my work before we fire it back up.

Jon, it's easy to cut the pump gasket from new cork when the pump is apart as the templates are right there. I used the cover plate for the outside cut and the impeller for the inside cut.


Post# 677618 , Reply# 28   5/6/2013 at 07:45 (4,001 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Smart!

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I'll remember that trick, scissors just dont cut it, I mean they do work but its all jaggy and not factory!!

 


Post# 677658 , Reply# 29   5/6/2013 at 11:49 (4,001 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Yet another broken torque spring!  They do make nice paper weights. ;)

 

I did some digging on Royal Purple's website, and they now make a synthetic version of the Non-detergent SAE 30 Air Compressor oil - 01513 Synfilm Recip 100.  This would be the synthetic comparison to the standard Air Compressor oil we've been using in the Unimatic mechanisms for years.  Now if they only made an SAE 60 and SAE 70 versions for the belt drive Whirlpool/Kenmore and Maytag transmissions. Smile

 

I'm not an fluid engineer, but I'd be curious to know if the variation of oil viscosity would cause the oil pump efficiency to change.  I know that automotive guys mention that seals can be more leak prone with synthetics.

 

Ben



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Post# 677681 , Reply# 30   5/6/2013 at 14:31 (4,001 days old) by rickr (.)        

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Nice save Greg!

Post# 677703 , Reply# 31   5/6/2013 at 15:43 (4,000 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Ooh, that's interesting, Ben. I'm curious about the viscosity too, I wonder if there is a difference long-term.

Any signs of leaks, Jon?



Post# 677734 , Reply# 32   5/6/2013 at 17:00 (4,000 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        
This may be the wrong forum...

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since there are no religious or political discussions here, but why Royal Purple?

Any oil today you put in that transmission is scads better then lubricants of the 50's.

I've been an oil geek since the 80's with total belief in synthetics, I even send out used oil for analysis at least once a year. I've just never seen the RP people back up their claims...

Awesome looking restoration Greg, looking forward to seeing/hearing a video of it running!



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