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Post# 676907 5/2/2013 at 21:35 (4,005 days old) by cuffs054  (MONTICELLO, GA) |
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Besides being butt-ugly why aren't Staber W/D more popular? They claim to be bullet proof and/or easy to fix. They appear relatively "green" but no one shouts their praises. | ||
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Post# 676930 , Reply# 1 5/2/2013 at 23:58 (4,005 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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$1300-1900 for a 2 cu ft capacity washer plus $195 shipping.
End-user serviceable means there is no (or extremely limited)trained service network. Diagnosis, parts ordering and replacement is up to the owner. They are butt ugly and virtually no progress has been made since their introduction over a decade ago, including in the crucial area of capacity as it was undersized for even then. They do seem relatively well made, quality materials and craftsmanship (asthetics excepted) and their unique format (top-loading h-axis) make them fascinating to us, but it would be a hard sell to the average buyer. I've seen one running and they are good performers though almost unbearably loud during spin. It's too bad, it would be nice to be more supportive of U.S. innovation and manufacturing. | ||
| Post# 676948 , Reply# 3 5/3/2013 at 01:45 (4,005 days old) by alr2903 (TN) | ||
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Someone described the Staber spin as sounding like a helicopter. alr | ||
| Post# 676972 , Reply# 6 5/3/2013 at 06:59 (4,004 days old) by alr2903 (TN) | ||
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IIRC, The Staber company rebuilt coin laundy machines for years and probably still do. Seems they may work both area's. Also most Ameicans have little patience with opening two doors to load. | ||
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Post# 676979 , Reply# 7 5/3/2013 at 07:47 (4,004 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Top or Side Loading H-Axis Washing Machines Suffer
From one unique problem, tub capacity in relation to case size.
Pony or other top or side loading H-Axis washing machines have been around for nearly if not over one hundred years in commercial use. Those machines are usually longer and or wider than the standard American top loader case and certainly than most 24" or 25" front loaders. European top loading A-axis washers top out at about 5 or 6 kilos worth of wash, about the same as a front loader. Staber's problem is they wanted a top loading h-axis washer that fit the standard American size machine. Design along those lines means something has to give and in this case it was capacity (deepness) of the tub. To hold the amount of laundry Americans seem to prefer in a washing machine (about 18lbs to 24lbs), you are going to need a much deeper and or longer tub than a Staber. Then you are going to be looking at a washing machine case of maybe 30" or more in width. That may not be a problem for those with washing machines in basements or such, but for those in tight squeeze areas it may not work. Whirlpool has held a patent for a top loading H-Axis washer for decades now, guess it will never see the light of day as an actual machine. | ||
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Post# 677000 , Reply# 9 5/3/2013 at 10:36 (4,004 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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In Oct, 2010 I went back to Maryland for the big Beltsville weekend Wash-In. I then saw my first (and only) Staber washer live and in person. I had a chance to play with it (run a load) and the owners had disabled the lid lock and switch. While it was interesting playing with a top loading h-axis machine, after that one load I lost interest (and that's saying a lot).
If I were considering buying one, the cost first and fore most, would scare me away. But aside from that, yes, small capacity, small-ish opening loading / unloading, uninspired design with a cheap looking plastic top, lid and control panel, not a real fast spin speed, liquid detergent only, etc, etc, etc, are all reasons I am not "moved" by this machine.
I just looked at their website and see they also sell a "companion" dryer. But all it is, is a Whirlpool design with the ugly, plastic Staber control panel on it..... and for $800+?? I don't think so!
Kevin CLICK HERE TO GO TO RevvinKevin's LINK | ||
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Post# 677029 , Reply# 10 5/3/2013 at 11:48 (4,004 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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On this side of the pond H-axis toploaders are more common here. You see them a lot of France, I think even more than frontloaders. Apparently H-axis toploaders use more efficient space of the cabinet, most models are smaller than the frontloaders, but still can hold a decent amount of laundry. I think a 27 inch wide American sized machine could hold a ton of laundry. I don't understand why Staber uses it's cabinets so ineffecient as they do. The drum could be way bigger and the opening should be much bigger too.
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Post# 677051 , Reply# 11 5/3/2013 at 13:00 (4,004 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Post# 677091 , Reply# 13 5/3/2013 at 18:00 (4,004 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Oh Yeah......... | ||
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Post# 677112 , Reply# 14 5/3/2013 at 20:30 (4,004 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Would love to see something like this | ||
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Post# 677113 , Reply# 15 5/3/2013 at 20:32 (4,004 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Here is a link to the Whirlpool patents | ||
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Post# 677131 , Reply# 16 5/3/2013 at 22:51 (4,004 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 677142 , Reply# 17 5/4/2013 at 00:33 (4,004 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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A thought for Staber-drop building household-residentual washers and dryers and focus only on their other equipment lines-commercial dryer cabinets,rebuilding laundramat equipment,their unusual fire hose cleaner,and so on. | ||
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Post# 678321 , Reply# 20 5/9/2013 at 07:37 (3,998 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Good point Diomede | ||
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