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Post# 677199   5/4/2013 at 12:47 (3,980 days old) by bud ()        

I took the auger top off the agitator a few months ago. Been running it like that since. Haven't noticed any real difference in turn over. It's my trusty KA so maybe that has something to do with it.
Anybody else do this?





Post# 677202 , Reply# 1   5/4/2013 at 12:52 (3,980 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
corkscrews

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I have been a longtime believer that the augers were a useless marketing gimmick. I can remember my grandmother stating that if you are putting so many things in the machine that you need a corkscrew to turn them over, you are overloading the machine.

 

Malcolm


Post# 677205 , Reply# 2   5/4/2013 at 13:03 (3,980 days old) by bud ()        

Thanks for the reply Malcom. It seems the only I cant do is fill the water level over the top of the agitator, socks and smaller stuff gets snagged.


Post# 677220 , Reply# 3   5/4/2013 at 14:45 (3,980 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

All shorter stroke trannys don't pull the clothes down to the bottom well so you do need a downward motion to help. I don't think it was necessary on the belt driven machines, but the direct drive machines circulated a bigger load more uniformly with an auger.

Post# 677235 , Reply# 4   5/4/2013 at 16:26 (3,980 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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well, the DualAction started with the belt drive Kenmores....maybe a marketing gimmick....but it was their best alternative to getting a bigger load in a machine, waaaaay before the larger capacities came about...

one thing about Kenmores was their agitators, or for most of them anyway, was the vanes were at the bottom, where all the cleaning happened, and you weren't getting use of the full capacity of these machines in favor of turnover...the dual action at the slower longer stroke was a great help....

I have never had isses with either drive method of using a DualAction....some others have had clothes torn, for one reason or another...

with your KA, is that the small or large base?......the larger base, even at medium water level, without the corkscrew, at medium or high speed, can turn that water into a tidal wave.....I put this larger base in all of my DD, at high speed, and have never had an issues with clothing or mechanics of the machine.....



Post# 677238 , Reply# 5   5/4/2013 at 16:37 (3,980 days old) by bud ()        

It is definitely the the large agitator. Don't do the bob-loads any more. The old girl is 22 years old and I want to watch the tranny.


Post# 677292 , Reply# 6   5/4/2013 at 21:27 (3,980 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Disable the clothes mover by removing the clutch dogs so you can leave it on the agitator but it effectively doesn't function ... then there won't be a problem with small items getting stuck atop the agitator on a full fill.

I've never understood why people get in a tizzy over these agitators.  The "pushing" action of the auger isn't aggressive and it surely does help promote rollover on a proper full loading.


Post# 677336 , Reply# 7   5/5/2013 at 00:00 (3,980 days old) by A440 ()        

Great Thread.
The "Test". Is machine "A" an older Whirlpool? It could just be my eyes...

I never had an issue with "Dual Action" agitators from any of the periods.
I had several Belt - Drive and 2 Direct Drive machines. I never had any issues.

A washer that I did have that I thought was rough was a Maytag. Can't give you the model number. I bought it new in 1996. It was Maytag built and had the short, fast agitation. Straight Agitator. I thought it was hard on fabrics. The rinse was crazy. 1 minute, 2 minute only?

Feliz Cinco De Mayo! :)



Post# 677341 , Reply# 8   5/5/2013 at 01:07 (3,980 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains )        

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I have always thought those were the most boring machines ever.I think watching paint dry would be more entertaining.

The Frigidare Jet-Action has way more roll over and  my Aunt's Kelvinator was one of my favorites also, when I first used it I did not know how

it could work having a huge agitator like that until it started washing and covered me with water.I grew up with a 1972 Norge 20 Lb

and G.E. filter.Flos.


Post# 677355 , Reply# 9   5/5/2013 at 02:52 (3,980 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I was thinking along those lines as well DADoES......and wondering if a straight vane top portion from a Design2000 would work, just add a large washer to bolt it all together.....but yeah, take out the dogs....should work just fine....

these augers aren't supposed to kick in unless the load requires it.....some are loose enough to spin on their own...


Post# 678769 , Reply# 10   5/11/2013 at 17:17 (3,973 days old) by DigAPony ()        

Could be "A" is a BD Whirlpool, "B" is for sure a GE Filter-Flo, and bringing up the rear "C" the mighty Maytag Power-Fin Helical Drive.


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