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Post# 686067   6/27/2013 at 19:04 (2,249 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Big Bertha is getting some new German cousins.

Anyone following my trails with Big Bertha (Miele w1070) knows the girl is getting on and perhaps should have some of her workload reduced. That am getting that tired of MieleUSA's attitude about repairs and or parts for the old girl. Just had the shocks replaced a few months ago but am worried about the motor and or bearings, if one or both go that would be the end of Bertha. Clearly some changes were in order.

Sold off the little Whirlpool compact/portable to a member who will love it to death, and am now awaiting arrival of an AEG Lavamat (88840)washer and Lavatherm (57770)dryer set!

As units haven't arrived don't have snaps of my own, but will ask my "Secret Squirrel" if one has permission to post the ones he took and sent.

Post# 686084 , Reply# 1   6/27/2013 at 21:16 (2,249 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

Always fun 'n' exciting to get new laundry equipment! Looking forward to photos and your user reviews.

Post# 686104 , Reply# 2   6/28/2013 at 03:21 (2,248 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Curtesy Of My Secret Squirrel RevvinKevin

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Here are some snaps of the new units.

RevvinKevin was a peach, a real gentleman and stand-up guy to not only fetch these units but store them until one could arrange transport.

Post# 686105 , Reply# 3   6/28/2013 at 03:22 (2,248 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Post# 686106 , Reply# 4   6/28/2013 at 03:23 (2,248 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Cold fill only, but one has a feeling with also work with "warm". *LOL*

Post# 686107 , Reply# 5   6/28/2013 at 03:24 (2,248 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Post# 686108 , Reply# 6   6/28/2013 at 05:22 (2,248 days old) by nmassman44 (Boston North Shore Massachusetts)        

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Nice machines! I found the user manual for that washer Lady L in case you dont have it. Here is the link.


Post# 686109 , Reply# 7   6/28/2013 at 05:25 (2,248 days old) by nmassman44 (Boston North Shore Massachusetts)        

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And here is the manual for the dryer.


Post# 686110 , Reply# 8   6/28/2013 at 05:27 (2,248 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

Are these brand new machines, L? The back of the washer looks virgin. Thanks for pics---not familiar with AEG machines. Props to Kevin for his never-ending service to the AW family.

Post# 686111 , Reply# 9   6/28/2013 at 05:29 (2,248 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        

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Very pretty...I've always liked this range of AEG washers.

I'm guessing you have a 240V line. So why on earth would you bother with feeding warm water when you, of all people, know the value of stepped heating for ultimate stain removal?

Post# 686116 , Reply# 10   6/28/2013 at 06:13 (2,248 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Morning Y'all

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There is a good story behind these units, but will tell later, must get ready for work now.

Thanks for the manuals NMassMan44, but beat you to it awhile ago. When doing research on the units before purchasing found the same site to download manuals. Then AEG in Canada sent more when one ordered parts.

Am kind of on the fence about the dryer and it may eventually get sold on. Not a huge fan of condenser dyers for a start, also space is going to be tight. Really only wanted the washer as it will occupy the space vacated by the Whirlpool, but got such a deal on the set.

@Ronhic: "So why on earth would you bother with feeding warm water ..."

Cause the bloody thing takes >2hrs to do a normal wash cycle! *LOL* We shall have to play around with the various short cycles cause that isn't going to cut it! *LOL*

Post# 686118 , Reply# 11   6/28/2013 at 06:23 (2,248 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Looking at YouTube videos of it, it seems to run at distribution speed with the jet on as it fills up for the rinse.

Nice find!

Post# 686130 , Reply# 12   6/28/2013 at 08:52 (2,248 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
My dear...

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...set to 60c and press the 'Time Saver' button once will get it to 90 minutes - twice for 63 minutes.

Interesting that it states 5kg for maximum load. Here they were sold as a 7kg machine.

Try the time saver - I 'comfortably fill' my Electrolux owned, Zanussi built Westinghouse and use the 'quick' wash almost every cycle. 60c = 75 minutes...40c = 68 minutes. Both with 2 very good, deep rinses.

I'm sure you'll play like a child in a toy shop anyway :)

Post# 686142 , Reply# 13   6/28/2013 at 11:29 (2,248 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Congratulations! It's a wonderful washing machine, AEG at it's best!

Post# 686162 , Reply# 14   6/28/2013 at 14:02 (2,248 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London UK)        

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You do like your European machines, I presume it runs on 240 rather than 110 volts :)

I will only add, don't forget the delay timer. I am assuming that you live in an apartment so perhaps noise will be an issue, but the delay start will allow at least some of the programme to proceed before the noise and vibration of the spin starts - personally I am a very firm believer in the benefits of starting a wash from cold. I usually run my machine at night (I am a very sound sleeper LOLOL) so using a cycle (including 2hr soak) of nearly 4 hours is no bother to me at all.

Good luck and I wish you many happy loads using it.


Post# 686181 , Reply# 15   6/28/2013 at 16:07 (2,248 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Totally agree on what ronhic said: Time Saver x2 and Sensitive is all I used on my loads: that setting would reheat the water even late in the wash and give deep rinses.


I hope yours does THAT as well: distrubution rinse!


Post# 686182 , Reply# 16   6/28/2013 at 16:16 (2,248 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Thanks Lads!

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Long story short this set was sitting on fleaPay without so much as a nibble. Seller was on the West coast and as normal for such items had "no shipping" as part of the auction. Listed as "new" we were interested.

As mentioned had been considering purchasing something to take the work off Big Bertha ever since the shock swapping saga, just couldn't pull our socks up to make a choice. It probably was leaning towards a Miele 3033 or 3055 since they would fit in the space vacated by the Whirlpool and quite frankly are the best of a rather sad lot of offerings in the USA atm. However reading various comments and still having a bad taste in one's mouth from how MieleUSA handled the "shock saga", wasn't quite ready. Had also considered nabbing a 1986 or 1926 but they require that funky 120v/240v hook up which would have caused problems. Also at this stage of the game wasn't sure about getting yet another older Miele that would require service or such at once or soon.

Meanwhile back at the ranch seller kept dropping the price for the AEG set as it wasn't moving. Long story short we did a deal and got the set for a price that will floor most of you, put it this way it is costing much more to have the items shipped than one paid for both.

Problem was seller didn't have the shipping bolts for the washer and couldn't be bothered putting them in if one sent. This is where my Secret Squirrel came into the picture.

RevvinKevin so kindly offered not only to collect the set, but store until the transport braces/bolts arrived, install same, continue to store until shippers arrived. What a pal, what a pal, what a pal.

Kevin was gobsmacked when he saw the set and by his visual inspection and then photos confirmed the units were little used, not totally NIB mind you, but very low usage. It almost looks as if the previous owners got barely a year or less out of them before they were put into storage. The person who did the fleaPay listing was not the original owner. The units were inside a storage locker he purchased the contents of which explains why he knew so little about what he had.

The plug on the washer and dryer are the same as on my German Pfaff ironer, so while 220v/240v they are pure without any of the 120v requirements of Miele washers. Seller saw the plugs and listed both as running on three phase power, which could explain why they didn't sell. I saw the listing and knew at once that bit was rubbish,but I kept well buttoned.

Post# 686207 , Reply# 17   6/28/2013 at 18:42 (2,248 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
'knew at once that bit was rubbish, but I kept well butt

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Hilarious and classsic Launderess diction.

This is exactly why we--or at lest, I--love you.

And now you have a washer that slow spins while it fills for the rinse, WITH THE JETS ON. A dream machine. To die for. How wonderful!

Post# 686208 , Reply# 18   6/28/2013 at 18:49 (2,248 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Sorry, the subject drift is fibbing again,

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pretending to give more character space in the preview, then chopping it off in the final post, making us look incompetent.

"I saw the listing and knew at once that bit was rubbish ,but I kept well buttoned."

Post# 686209 , Reply# 19   6/28/2013 at 19:21 (2,248 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Hey Mickey!

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You know I love you more than my luggage! *LOL*

Post# 686210 , Reply# 20   6/28/2013 at 19:24 (2,248 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Thank you! You were my other "Secret Squirrel" providing much sound advice and handholding regarding purchasing the AEG set.

Post# 686228 , Reply# 21   6/28/2013 at 23:42 (2,247 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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You're welcome! No trouble at all!

Post# 686234 , Reply# 22   6/29/2013 at 02:22 (2,247 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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Wow it has an 1800rpm max spin! Your lace dainties will be ready to wear by the end of the cycle lol.
Lovely looking machines, i hope you get years of good service out of them :-)

Post# 686242 , Reply# 23   6/29/2013 at 05:05 (2,247 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

That is quite a story! I loved that you realized the three phase power requirement was bogus and were thus able to take your time in getting the price to the floor. Can't wait for your review/impressions. At any rate, congratulations!

Post# 686248 , Reply# 24   6/29/2013 at 06:25 (2,247 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        

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Congratulations Launderess, thats certainly the steal of the century, have never seen a fascia with "Overdose, Residual Moisture Level and loading %... and that 1800rpm is sure gonna fling that water out!!

Looking forward to the reviews!!

Post# 686253 , Reply# 25   6/29/2013 at 06:48 (2,247 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        

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Laundress, lovely machines. I had the BOL washer from that range with 850rpm spin. My machine had an easy care button that you pressed for washing synthetics. I notice your machine does not have one. I wonder how the machine changes a cotton wash to an easy care wash, is the function linked to the spin speed button do you know?

Post# 686254 , Reply# 26   6/29/2013 at 06:51 (2,247 days old) by henene4 (Germany)        

I know! It's kind a automatic wash like on the EU Mieles. It senses the load on its soaking behaivior and then sets the loading size and the cycle right. Thats what it had been like here in Germany.

Post# 686273 , Reply# 27   6/29/2013 at 10:05 (2,247 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        
Ah I see

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Thank you for clearing that up....makes sense.

Post# 686274 , Reply# 28   6/29/2013 at 10:18 (2,247 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Haven't read the entire manual (that will come at play time when units arrive so one can see and well as touch), but there are three programs for man made fibers depending upon what they are; Fashion, Easy Cares/Cotton/Linen and Easy Iron. In addition the main Easy Cares/Cottons can be programmed to add a water cooling as part of wash cycle. When set to do this the machine will add cold water at the end of the wash cycle if the temp is >40c.

As for the rest it is as Henene4 states, the machine "knows" by load composition what to do; however manual gives 2.5k as the max weight for a load of "Easy Cares".

For what it's worth aside from adding and draining cold water several times at the end of the wash cycle (Cyclic Rinsing) my Miele's wash programme is the same for "Cottons" or "Permanent Press". What does vary is that for the latter it does not spin in between the three deep rinses (instead of five). Something one does not always find satisfactory.

Post# 686279 , Reply# 29   6/29/2013 at 10:42 (2,247 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Why One Was So Cautious About This Set

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Dithered back and forth for nearly a month or more before pulling the trigger. Quite honestly many of the poor reviews both here in the archives and elsewhere such as YouTube almost put one off.

did not understand if these are "good" AEG German made quality or rubbish. One member who wanted vintage AEG units would have nothing to do with the 8000 series.

Then there are other minor niggles: washer outer drum is the same fiberglass material Miele used for their 4XXX series. Also the washer paddles are the same material and IIRC at least one is removable (what is up with that?). Then there is the matter of the recirculating jet system. Some think it is the best thing since electric lighting, others consider it foul.

Post# 686282 , Reply# 30   6/29/2013 at 10:53 (2,247 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        

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These are very good machines. One thing to be aware of though regarding the recirculation jet is be careful when washing dark items that may run. I had a disaster with a load of white towels that I washed after a load of denims. The sump was still full of "blue" water from the jeans, when I put the whites in and the pump turned on they rapidly went a horrible pale blue. After that I always ran the machine empty on a rinse cycle after a load of darks.

I am sure you will love this washer though, they wash very well even when time saver is selected.

Post# 686303 , Reply# 31   6/29/2013 at 13:16 (2,247 days old) by Aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Laundress ...Seeing that you have gone thru different machines
in the past ..Asko , Miele im happy that you found the
machine that one deserves.
In 1991 I wash sending for litereture in the UK .
And AEG was one of the manufacturers which was in German
the name was .
I dont not how to say it in german lol .
But the second one I had said ...
Automatic Engeenering from Germany.
I learned about at that time its Variomatic wash system ,
and there styling .
I think or as you would put it..Me thinks you
will like the cold hook up with graduate heating .
As Asko got me spoiled with fast heating.
Clothes are really clean especially my whites !
Was somw happy for yaa I went to sleep with a AEG
book on bed lol .
Kevin is a great guy by far .
Wishing you the best on the new machine and cant
wait to hear your stories on the washer & dryer experince .
cant post often having problems with my computer,
im doing this by phone and its a pain in the ...! tukus.
But I had to respond to this thread.
Best to you .Wow a truely A rated product .
Don't mind the B.
Darren k

Post# 686304 , Reply# 32   6/29/2013 at 13:20 (2,247 days old) by Aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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And remember ...
Darren k

Post# 686324 , Reply# 33   6/29/2013 at 15:30 (2,247 days old) by splittub (Europe)        

And nowadays AEG is just a brand name put on Electrolux washing machines that have been subjected to so much cost-cutting that it's not even possible to change the bearings anymore...

Post# 686843 , Reply# 34   7/2/2013 at 11:36 (2,244 days old) by RevvinKevin (So. Cal.)        

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CONGRATS on getting this Launderess!!   It was my pleasure to assist you with this acquisition!


Yes they are in beautiful condition!   I would have loved to plug them in and play with them, but they are not mine so I resisted.   I have a feeling the washer control panel is back lit and I would love to see that!


I too am waiting to hear what you think of them!



Post# 686853 , Reply# 35   7/2/2013 at 12:36 (2,244 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Why Wait?

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Post# 686886 , Reply# 36   7/2/2013 at 15:29 (2,244 days old) by RevvinKevin (So. Cal.)        

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Ooooh... VERY cool!


Thanks L!

Post# 687050 , Reply# 37   7/3/2013 at 03:16 (2,243 days old) by donprohel (I live in Munich - Germany, but I am Italian)        
My compliments!

Very nice machine!

Wish you lots of fun (and clean landry...)

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