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Post# 690759   7/20/2013 at 16:30 (3,904 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Well as the song goes - breaking up is never easy I know but it has to go.......
It was beyond repair as the gearbox had gone and leaked oil everywhere. I was going to have a go and see if I could fix iit but Austin warned me it would be difficult and he wasn't wrong. The seal by the pulley had gone and there was loads of play. But the rest of it was not great either as the pictures show ........ Before .. |
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Post# 690760 , Reply# 1   7/20/2013 at 16:32 (3,904 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 690761 , Reply# 2   7/20/2013 at 16:36 (3,904 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 690764 , Reply# 3   7/20/2013 at 16:43 (3,904 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 690767 , Reply# 4   7/20/2013 at 17:19 (3,904 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)   |   | |
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I had the same dilemma with a Hotpoint Toploader that we picked up from a customers house the other day & that had a real bad oil leak. I so badly wanted it but i'm afraid it was to far gone to repair, it looked in tip top condition from the outside & that made me feel all the worse for parting with it.
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Post# 690885 , Reply# 6   7/21/2013 at 07:22 (3,903 days old) by brummybear (Birmingham uk)   |   | |
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Post# 690894 , Reply# 7   7/21/2013 at 08:05 (3,903 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 692093 , Reply# 8   7/26/2013 at 14:13 (3,898 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Sorry for late response but have been away
Craig - what model top loader was it? At least with the top loaders you can repair the gearboxes and parts are still available but the twin tub seems to be a sealed unit. It was sad as I like to try and preserve machines where I can but this was not worth it and there still seem to be loads available. I'm about to pick up what will be my 3rd top loader tomorrow (I did sell one so will have 2) Eean - don't give up looking. Sometimes they appear and no one goes for them so keep your eyes peeled. I would get one with the auto rinse for maximum fun!! Hi Chris. I haven't binned the lid yet so it's available - will try and get the spin lid off too and then they will match. They will be going into storage next week until I move into my new house later in the autumn Chris - oops hope I haven't ruined ABBA songs for you S :)) |
Post# 692106 , Reply# 10   7/26/2013 at 16:01 (3,898 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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is in the shed as it started to knock when agitating and for the life of me I am unable to get the nut inside the wash tub off, the one the agi screws onto its a bitch and a half so I have left it while I ponder what to do.
Oh dear Steve that detergent corrosion on the top of the tub was pretty grim it looked like it had a right bashing over the years lots of boiling over I would think. This parting comes to us all at some point its how we end up with a shed full of parts lol Austin |
Post# 692107 , Reply# 11   7/26/2013 at 16:02 (3,898 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 692190 , Reply# 12   7/27/2013 at 02:25 (3,898 days old) by chanceskydiver (West Linton)   |   | |
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First time saw one was back in 80's and was in a neighbours house in their garage spent a lot of time there admiring it It's a shame has to get scrapped |
Post# 692212 , Reply# 14   7/27/2013 at 08:55 (3,897 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Mark
Matchbox machines are few and far between but keep your eyes peeled for the Servis automatic models which continued into the early 1990s as these will be much more plentiful and will easily fit a smaller space The link below has much information on them, the earliest models will be contemporary with the matchbox models Al CLICK HERE TO GO TO vacbear58's LINK |
Post# 693278 , Reply# 17   7/30/2013 at 17:29 (3,894 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Hey guys
All hectic here so only dipping in and out of AW at the mo. Austin, I had the same problem with that nut as the service manual says this is the way to remove the gearbox but once I saw the corrosion and coupled with the fact that I wasn't bothered about keeping this machine (they are a bit boring without the auto rinse in my opinion) then it had to go. I tried all sorts of tools and techniques but it just wouldn't shift. Hi Mark. I would agree - I think all manufacturers have looked to cut quality over the years so that we have virtually disposable machines cos they are so cheap now in relation to how they used to be. Before I got into collecting machines, I too scrapped machines that I would love to own now. My first automatic I bought was a Hoover A3060 which was a great machine. One of my neighbours in York had thrown out a Hoover 1100 A3260 into the back ginnel as the drum had split so I swiped it under the cover of darkness and cannabilised the A3060 as I thought the electron was more up to date and a better machine - the sacrilege!! At least it went on to work for several years even with a dodgy door release button. I guess we all go through this at some point . Good luck with finding a machine for your space. I love my Quartz machines and just wish I could get them sorted out properly Hi Paul - the shed is pretty full now. One of the Hoovermatics I bought some time ago came with a whole load of spare parts as the rather elderly couple who sold it had gone through a number of machines over the years so I've got pumps, motors etc and some have come in useful already. One funny thing with this couple was that her children had bought her an automatic but she refused to use it so her husband was doing the washing. Her parting comment was she had no idea how she was going to cook the Christmas pudding in future lol. Bless S :) |
Post# 693666 , Reply# 18   8/1/2013 at 16:06 (3,892 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)   |   | |
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Steve a break up is really sad but you have to remember that all those spares go towards saving others. !! This hotpoint twin tub was a bit of a hybrid with the bits form here and there. It went together a treat in the end. The later machines like most things in life were not as good quality than their early relatives !!
I put a rinse function on the spinner but didn't put the switching on . Still it worked great. I'm sure your machine will live on in the form of saving others !!! Darren |
Post# 693667 , Reply# 19   8/1/2013 at 16:09 (3,892 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)   |   | |
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Post# 694696 , Reply# 21   8/6/2013 at 15:23 (3,887 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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Post# 694896 , Reply# 23   8/7/2013 at 14:38 (3,886 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Hey slow spin. That's fantastic what you've done there. My gran had that same machine I I always wondered about how I could convert it so at least 25 years later I know it can be done lol. I've thought about adapting a hotpoint so you could drain the washtub in the same way as a Hoovermatic with some sort of valve and a lever on the back as the wash pump is so slow and might of used the machine I've just scrapped to try it out on but alas.... I still have my mind on adapting the T5090 as per the filter flow Hoovermatic that surfaced on here recently - I found the parts diagram for it (below) but the parts are no longer available so I'll have to improvise- I am happy to sacrifice this machine to adaptation as the chassis is buggered.
Hehe that is way too much water but I have to say even though James is right with the construction, the outer spin seems to be pretty well sealed. I've sometimes used the auto rinse on my 14890 and forgotten to open and close the lid after pressing the lid release button and there has been no water left on the floor. At least the clutch means you can't overload the motor although you will get through some clutch shoes :) Austin. Did you stop the knocking on yours? Kev - what a nightmare. You should have had the cost of the machine refunded really. At least then you could have used it towards another. James - of course you can. I will look to salvage it this weekend as its still attached at the moment and I need to take the rest of it to the dump. I hope I haven't lost any bits from it when I was taking it apart. I'll let you know. Cheers S :) |
Post# 694899 , Reply# 24   8/7/2013 at 14:41 (3,886 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)   |   | |
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Hi James the problem i have had is that the water pressure fills the spinner so quickly that the pump can not get rid of the water quick enough. !! The water can be over the spinner lid before you know it.
The 1400 is a different kettle of fish because i had to fit an electric pump as the old pump was worn out. I have left the pump going and added the rinse water that way the the water never gets too high !!! |
Post# 694924 , Reply# 25   8/7/2013 at 15:29 (3,886 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)   |   | |
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Thank you Steve! Drop me an email at thejamesrankin@live.com when you get around to doing it. Would love a 1400! James. |
Post# 695776 , Reply# 26   8/11/2013 at 03:08 (3,883 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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Post# 696499 , Reply# 27   8/14/2013 at 16:04 (3,879 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Well done Austin on getting that nut off - you will have to share your secret. The only way I got mine apart was to undo the support tube from the gearbox and that's when all the rust and gunk fell out. The main issue is that it leaves the wash bowl unsupported and the whole thing becomes flimsy. Let me know if you need the service info and I'll mail it to you.
James - I haven't forgotten, just not had the chance to sort out but definitely will this weekend. Steve :) |
Post# 696507 , Reply# 28   8/14/2013 at 16:30 (3,879 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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Post# 696509 , Reply# 29   8/14/2013 at 16:35 (3,879 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 696883 , Reply# 31   8/16/2013 at 14:50 (3,877 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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Sorry but I really cannot get my head around what you said about the codes and yes I know I am simple soul at times but its baffling to me.
Any chance you can explain again but in easier to understand lingo :o) Austin Ps the numbers on my 9404 are as follows. Serial # 36112411 Please tell me the date and how its worked out please |
Post# 697030 , Reply# 33   8/17/2013 at 04:18 (3,877 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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