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They're Here! My AEG Set Has Arrived
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Post# 693247   7/30/2013 at 14:04 (3,893 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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At 1145AM HomeDirect delivered our AEG set and have spent the time since then uncrating just the washer and sorting things out.

Didn't get a chance to take many snaps of the units still wrapped/crated as things got a bit hectic.

Wanted to take some snaps outside where the light is good, and when driver telephoned saying he was on our block got ready to do so; then one went out to the front door/street. Coming towards our front door were the two delivery men pushing a dolly. One crate was on the dolly with another *stacked sideways on top*! Didn't have time to catch the vapors, so shoved the camera in pocket and went to supervise this gig. One had visions of the top stacked sideways loaded appliance (didn't know if it was the washer or dryer) slipping off and crashing to the ground.

Figured better just get the items inside and not fool with these drivers too long. They were nice enough don't get me wrong, but still.

HomeDirect merely double boxed and ply/shrink wrapped each item. No Styrofoam or cushioning especially at the bottom which one requested. So far the washer at least looks fine (haven't unwrapped the dryer yet), and a quick plug in/power on tells me at least the thing isn't DOA.

There was a small black plastic bit at the bottom of the washer crate which had me worried. Did these guys damage my washer? A quick call to AEG in Canada determined the thing most likely was one of the plugs used to close off the bolt holes after removing the transit bolts. After doing so pushed the thing in and yes, it fit exactly so that is that. Maybe the thing somehow was shoved inside the washer and worked it's way out during transport.

There may be a minor issue with the bottom kick plate, not sure if it is damage or just not seated properly. Will investigate further after leveling the washer and taking it off the appliance rollers.

Cannot test fully as one ordered some 2.5m drain and filling hoses from Europe that have not arrived. Also ordered hose joiners so the drain hose can be coupled to make one long enough to reach the sink. If one has the strength and time later will unpack the dryer which is where we think our "Secret Squirrel" placed the original drain hose and clamp. Once they are in place will do a test spin to see if all is well with the suspension and so forth. Just don't want anything to come gurgling out onto the floor.

Think am going to take a wee nap. Unpacking and shifting appliances all afternoon has left me quite knackered.

C.





Post# 693266 , Reply# 1   7/30/2013 at 16:32 (3,893 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.)        

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Good luck with all this. You've come too far to get derailed now!

Post# 693370 , Reply# 2   7/31/2013 at 02:56 (3,893 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Congratulations! Very exciting. Have you solved your stacking problem? Good luck with all of it and am looking forward to your user review once everything is sorted.

Post# 693372 , Reply# 3   7/31/2013 at 04:25 (3,893 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Yay for the arrival! Hope they didn't get damaged. Looking forward to hearing how you like the AEG's.

Post# 693469 , Reply# 4   7/31/2013 at 15:38 (3,892 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
So Far So Good,

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No real apparent damage save what might be a few niggles, will have to compare photos taken before shipment and afterwards to confirm.

Will be pestering those with previous experience with these units for tips, so stay tuned to this Bat Channel! *LOL*


Post# 693470 , Reply# 5   7/31/2013 at 15:45 (3,892 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Just in case the machine didn't come with a manual and for those who are interested too ofcourse:

www.manualslib.com/manual/2622/Ae...



Post# 693474 , Reply# 6   7/31/2013 at 15:56 (3,892 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Thanks

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Found manuals on Electrolux's AEG site whist researching the units prior to nabbing. AEG Canada also sent same as PDF via email after application so am good there as well. Printed both out and have been reading and at least for the washer doing some programming (fine rinse, cool suds, fluff after cycle ends, etc...)

Until the weather becomes cooler and dryer won't be using the dryer so there's me for you.


Post# 693476 , Reply# 7   7/31/2013 at 16:06 (3,892 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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YAY Launderess!  

 

Happy to hear they arrrived unscathed!  

 

I look forward to seeing snaps and hearing how they work, how you like them, etc

 

Your secret squirrel


Post# 693480 , Reply# 8   7/31/2013 at 16:16 (3,892 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
First Impressions

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Build quality wise the AEG isn't a patch on the Miele W1070. Far more plastic and fitted bits on the former as opposed to the latter. Not sure if this can be attributed to differences caused by being made in different decades.

One thing one noticed straight away is that the AEG is *quiet* nearly silent when compared to the Miele. No pump noise and so froth. Even on the spin you can barely hear anything. Only tested at 1200rpms, so don't know how silent the AEG will be at the max spin speed of 1800rpms.

Despite being both rated 5kg, the AEG tub seems larger than the Miele. Will have to test by filling an average load in both to see if this is true.


Post# 693706 , Reply# 9   8/1/2013 at 21:05 (3,891 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Just A Few Snaps

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Taken after getting things sorted. Washer was connected to electric but no water so could not fully test.



Post# 693707 , Reply# 10   8/1/2013 at 21:07 (3,891 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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From another angle

Post# 693708 , Reply# 11   8/1/2013 at 21:07 (3,891 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
But Wait, There Is More

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Panel

Post# 693709 , Reply# 12   8/1/2013 at 21:08 (3,891 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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More:

Post# 693710 , Reply# 13   8/1/2013 at 21:09 (3,891 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Before Digging Into The Tear Down

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How units came packed/crated via HomeDirect. Must give that nice young man Burton a telephone call.

Post# 693742 , Reply# 14   8/2/2013 at 01:52 (3,891 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia)        
Pretty!

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Congrats!

Such a lovely machine in nice condition. Being an AEG fan I would love one of those. Would love a vid demonstrating the lack af noise you spoke about previously.

Enjoy!
:)


Post# 693757 , Reply# 15   8/2/2013 at 07:13 (3,890 days old) by washer111 ()        
Wonderful

Whilst looks aren't everything, I dare say they add such a functional aspect to this machine. The lighted controls are very convenient for the common dark and dingy basement laundry, and make the machine prettier in the night/during operation.

Really hope this machine gives you good service :-)

All the best!


Post# 693782 , Reply# 16   8/2/2013 at 15:08 (3,890 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        

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I'm impressed! Very nice machines Launderess.

I love the illuminated control panel and tub light.

Enjoy them in good health.


Post# 693848 , Reply# 17   8/2/2013 at 20:13 (3,890 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

What is the "Moisture" setting for on the washer?

Post# 693860 , Reply# 18   8/2/2013 at 21:38 (3,890 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
In Theory

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From what one has gleaned from the owner's manual "Moisture Remaining %" indicated how much water *should* remain in the wash using the set spin speed. One supposes this information comes in handy when using tumble dryers especially AEG's matching LavaTherm units. The owner's manual for my dryer breaks down average drying times for loads based upon the final spin speed of the wash.

If you alter the final spin speed the moisture remaining number changes as well.


Post# 693900 , Reply# 19   8/3/2013 at 04:56 (3,890 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Thanks for the close-ups Ms. DeMille! What is the 'Fashion' setting all about?

Post# 693902 , Reply# 20   8/3/2013 at 06:05 (3,889 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

"Fashion" is most likely a cycle between wool and delicates. More delicate than delicates but better cleaning than wool.

Post# 694018 , Reply# 21   8/3/2013 at 16:26 (3,889 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
According To The Manual

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Fashion cycle is for items made from man-made fibers such as rayon or Lyocell. Wash temp is set at 40c with a "more gentle wash action than Delicates", but more through cleaning than handwash cycles.

What all that palaver actually means is anyone' guess. LOL


Post# 694400 , Reply# 22   8/5/2013 at 13:02 (3,887 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada)        

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I'm eager to hear your opinion after a few loads, L. PM me.
Eddy


Post# 694491 , Reply# 23   8/5/2013 at 19:45 (3,887 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Am Not Feeling The Love ATM - How Do You Level This Thing?

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Manual states the rear left foot is spring loaded and should rest firmly on floor. That bit checks out fine. However the other three feet seem to be "loose" or whatever as one cannot screw them up or down to adjust.


Post# 694524 , Reply# 24   8/5/2013 at 22:16 (3,887 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
All Good Things Must Come To An End

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To get a better look at what is going on raised the washer on the right side using a heavy case for support. One flashlight view and the source of my leveling woes became clear; the two right side supports (front and rear rear) that the legs screw into are busted. This explains why the things won't screw up or down and feel wobbly and loose.

The left front leg seems fine, and it's support is intact. Same for the left side spring loaded self-leveling leg. Am going to put a call into AEG's tech support tomorrow to see what can be done. Know it is possible to purchase new feet, but the supports may be another matter. After all they are attached somehow to the washer.

Oh well, at least got the drain hose fitted and tested the unit so far as that goes. No leeks and everything works fine. Mine you only allow the unit to fill, run for a bit, then drain. It was mainly to test if the extended hose was joined properly.

Have sent Mr. Burton over at HomeDirect an email to get the damage claim ball rolling, we shall where things go from here.


Post# 694535 , Reply# 25   8/5/2013 at 23:27 (3,887 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.)        

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Oh, crap. You just can't depend on shippers to move things the way you would move them yourself.

I'm sure if there's a way of rectifying the damage and getting compensation you'll get to the bottom of it. It's a shame you have to go to all that trouble, though.


Post# 695016 , Reply# 26   8/7/2013 at 21:50 (3,885 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Would love a vid demonstrating the lack af noise....

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Ordered parts from AEG Canada and whilst speaking to the service tech he mentioned one of the legs on his unit was busted as well. What did he do? Shoved a square of hard wood underneath the damaged foot and kept on keeping on. Rather shocked a service person would do this but apparently the machine was level, stable and otherwise didn't care. As the saying goes; faint heart never won fair maiden, I mean what has one got to loose?

Have some rather thick decent sized rectangle shaped marble bits from another product lying around so; up went the washer and carefully slid the bits under the damaged legs/corners. Machine is level (according to spirit level)and does not wobble so..... Decided to run a empty "test wash" to at least clean out any built up detergent residue etc...

My thoughts on the AEG?

Compared to Big Berta (Miele W1070) who makes enough loud and strange sounds at times to wake the dead, the AEG is whisper quiet. You only can tell when the pump is engaged by water draining, on the Miele OTHO you *KNOW* that pump is working. Indeed the only sounds one hears is the muted sloshing of water, water entering the machine, etc...

Major difference between Big Berta and Hans der Grosse is during the spin cycle. The latter is almost again whisper quiet, emitting sounds more like one's Pfaff sewing machine motor that what one is used to from the Miele. It appears late or even very late night laundry may be on the cards once more.


Post# 695246 , Reply# 27   8/8/2013 at 23:25 (3,884 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
More Damage

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Thus far have been concentrating most of my efforts and time on the Lavamat, with the Lavatherm dryer sitting shoved off to the side whilst one sorted out some sort of stacking arrangement.

Well today decided to deal with the dryer situation and noticed the knob shown as totally pristine in the snaps taken by my Secret Squirrel, is now marked and a bit smashed. So much for the highly rated and regarded HomeDirect.


Post# 695331 , Reply# 28   8/9/2013 at 11:24 (3,883 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Dearest, Gobsmacked!

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Is is not the weirdest proverbial bite in the buttocks that both of our machines, your former WP convertible and the Lavamat had their bottoms damaged during shipping. If one were paranoid......etc.

Love or what have you,

Michael.



Post# 695490 , Reply# 29   8/10/2013 at 02:57 (3,883 days old) by mrwash ()        

Hello and congrats to your new set.

You have good machines there. AEG today is just a shadow of its former self. The quality is absolutely nothing compared to what it was years or even decades ago. The brand shares the fate of many other good brands that built good machines in the past. I would never buy a AEG today as they would not survive a few years.



Post# 695592 , Reply# 30   8/10/2013 at 13:45 (3,882 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Danke MrWash

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Love little "Hans der grosse", but the difference between the AEG and Miele in terms of build design and quality is interesting.

For instance have ordered new leveling legs to replace those damaged during shipment. shop.aeg.co.uk/product/4071374336...

Apparently the things come as a kit and one has to take off the back of washer in order to get at the plastic support (and nut that holds it in place) which holds the screw in feet. Miele's feet simply screw into the base of the washer, simple as marmalade and kippers. Indeed the Miele is totally front serviceable. AEG's apparently are the other way; you have to go through the back as the front is all one piece.


Post# 695603 , Reply# 31   8/10/2013 at 14:08 (3,882 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Newer Miele's aren't totally front serviceable anymore. Apparently it was too expensive to build.

Post# 695606 , Reply# 32   8/10/2013 at 14:21 (3,882 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Really?

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How very odd. One wonders why it is more expensive, I mean it is just a swing open cabinet.

Post# 695612 , Reply# 33   8/10/2013 at 14:45 (3,882 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I really don't know. Perhaps it is easier to manufacture on an automated production line.

Post# 695613 , Reply# 34   8/10/2013 at 14:52 (3,882 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Probably

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Having opened and then shut up our Miele can see how it could be a manual only job. Not to mention those fronts are heavy, not something you'd want swinging about on a production line.

To sad really as having to shove a washer away and back from a wall or within a cubby for repair isn't fun.


Post# 696220 , Reply# 35   8/13/2013 at 11:00 (3,879 days old) by Whirlpolf ()        
Congratulations!

You shot one of the best modern machines there are (were) on the German market. As Louis in Groningen said: One of the last ones that were made in Nürnberg.

My best friend owns one like this, it has been going strong for the last 11 years flawlessly. Ok, the sounds got some (estimated) 20% louder ever since, but still: Once you open the room window for a small crack (hearing the street sounds), you won't here the machine, not even today. The gurgling of the water on the glass of the door is still louder than the humming of the recirculation pump itself. A regular breakfast conversation in a low voice is louder than this machine, which made it perfect to be used during the night here, when electricity is up to 40% cheaper in some towns. (Hence the 24 hrs delay button).

His machine is doing some 4-8 loads a week, some on 60°C (hot), but most of them on 40°C (warm) or 30°C (luke warm). The only thing it can't handle were dog blankets, most of the dog hair has to be taken off in the (matching) dryer, a hedge-hog type rubber dryer ball helping it along.

Me too, I have heard of some people having problems with it on some internet forums, but we have not encountered any of those ever.
Still today I love to get over to his place just in order to wash my motorbike repair rags in it (using the "stains" button and some oxygen bleach in the according dispenser) because they come out even better than boil-washed in one of my own older 1960s water hogs.

Even if its overall "feel" is somewhat more "plasticky" than that of a comparable Miele, I would always go for this last German made TOL AEG.
Good you have it, enjoy!



Post# 696265 , Reply# 36   8/13/2013 at 16:29 (3,879 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Thanks Whirlpolf

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Am hoping after all is said and done have nabbed a bargain, however only time will tell.

Many of the cycles and or features will take some getting used to after trial and error. For instance the "Stain" cycle as one understands from the manual merely flushes whatever treatment is loaded into the dispenser into the drum. This seems odd to me since Persil and other TOL and even MOL modern German detergents are packed with enzymes and bleaches that start working in cold (85F) water all the way to nearly boiling. So why even in a cold fill machine wait until "the proper time" as the manual states?

Am probably *not* going to crank up the spin to 1800 on a regular basis. Well not until the theory is sorted about high spins leading to shortened bearing life.

At first differences in build quality between the AEG and Miele bothered me, but once one understands some of the methods behind the madness....

For instance the Miele has huge commercial washer shocks, which makes sense since it will spin all but the most severely unbalanced loads. OTHO the AEG has a very sophisticated OOB system and is designed to prevent such things from occurring in the first place. Or, should they happen take steps before the unit bashes itself to death. Thus the difference in shocks found in the Lavamat.


Post# 696347 , Reply# 37   8/14/2013 at 00:49 (3,879 days old) by donprohel (I live in Munich - Germany, but I am Italian)        
"Stain" cycle (or "stain" option?)

As far as I know, the idea behind the "stain" option in AEG machines is that the stain additives do not allow the enzymes to do their job properly, hence the additive is added later in the wash phase when the water temperature is about 40°C (about 104F) and the enzymes are supposed to have finished their action.

The "stain" option cannot be used if the wash temperature is lower than 40°C (about 104F) and it increase the duration of the washing phase of about 14 minutes.

At least, this is what AEG say...


Post# 696380 , Reply# 38   8/14/2013 at 05:02 (3,879 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)        

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About 10-11 years ago I had a way more BOL AEG but still similar to this one (timeframe wise) for a while but returned it to the appliance shop due to too many problems and finally bought a Miele. I loved the way it handled OOB loads, it could even distribute a single sweater for a spin in no time.

I think another reason for the stain cycle was to save on chemicals. There even was a "Baukastenwaschmittel" on the market for some time in Germany. A niche product consisting of three components (detergent, water softener and bleach) called Skip. The idea was you don`t need to increase the amount of detergent in hard water if you use the seperate water softener.

The AEG`s even went a step further, by adding different components at the perfect time for even greater savings. You can add a seperate powdered water softener over the pre wash compartement at the commence of any cycle without pre wash and the bleach or "Fleckensalz" in the stain cycle after the enzymes did their job.

Don`t get me wrong on this one but I`ve always considered those AEG`s as upscale Swedish Electrolux products merely assembled in a dying German factory.


Post# 696387 , Reply# 39   8/14/2013 at 05:43 (3,878 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
...assembled in a dying German factory

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What is it?

Have read many odd comments referring to the now shuttered AEG factory in Germany where these units were produced. What was it so evil that happened to AEG towards the end and or did Electrolux do to deserve such harshness?


Post# 696392 , Reply# 40   8/14/2013 at 06:02 (3,878 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)        

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All I`m saying is I don`t consider it as "German Engineering" what Germans are so proud of.

No harshness against Electrolux nor saying it`s a bad machine.



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