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Post# 695388   8/9/2013 at 16:45 (3,906 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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Well, as you may recall, last year Tom (turbomatic) and John (Combo52) arranged for me to get a very nice 1964 Maytag a702 as a gift in need of transmission repair.  I brought it to Ohio with me to get Dave (Volvoguy87) and Wes (elginkid)'s help to bring it back to life... While here I found a 1964 de702, the exact match to the washer here needing a timer rebuild.  We should be working on both later tonight.





Post# 695389 , Reply# 1   8/9/2013 at 16:48 (3,906 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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And earlier this year, I picked up a 1953 or 1954 Westinghouse D-6 in Ohio.  It plays "How Dry I Am" and works perfectly.  :)


Post# 695391 , Reply# 2   8/9/2013 at 16:53 (3,906 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        
Well...

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On Wednesday, I picked up the matching washer!  A 1953 or 54 Westinghouse Laundromat LB-6M!  It was quite the sturggle.  It was in a woman's basement with a only a 3 foot wide "L" shaped stairwell which at it's tightest had about 5 feet of headroom.  No wonder this (and Dave/Volvoguy's 1965 model) were down there all this time.  It took 4 and a half hours with some disassembly, but the owner, some of her friends, and myself were able to get the machines out of the basement in pieces and into the van.

 

 


Post# 695392 , Reply# 3   8/9/2013 at 16:54 (3,906 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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You can be sure she was dirty as you can see in this cleaning shot.


Post# 695394 , Reply# 4   8/9/2013 at 16:57 (3,906 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        
While there is some rust to deal with...

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She cleaned decently.  Nothing too horrible.


Post# 695400 , Reply# 5   8/9/2013 at 17:39 (3,906 days old) by moparguy (Virginia)        

Cool set! Or should I say sets!



Post# 695403 , Reply# 6   8/9/2013 at 18:21 (3,906 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
YAY!!! I'm so glad my washer has a partner!

I would say the WHs are in great shape considering how Westinghouse figured out a way to apply paint only one molucule thick. They were in close running with Hamilton, but I think Westinghouse won.

Enjoy all of them in good health.


Post# 695409 , Reply# 7   8/9/2013 at 19:09 (3,906 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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Thank you. There is more to come, but I got dragged away to dinner.

One quick question, what does the M mean in LB-6M?




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Post# 695450 , Reply# 8   8/9/2013 at 23:01 (3,905 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        
I'm back for now...

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The insides are in pretty good shape.  She'll need a new boot, hoses and belts, but not bad considering...


Post# 695452 , Reply# 9   8/9/2013 at 23:03 (3,905 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        
The floor will have to be replaced, but still excited!

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For an added bonus, look what I found in the basement when I picked them up (see them holding the tub of the machine)!  The original shipping brackets for both machines!  Special thanks to Paul (turquoisedude) for letting me borrow his set, without seeing them I wouldn't have known what I was looking at and not have gotten them.


Post# 695453 , Reply# 10   8/9/2013 at 23:05 (3,905 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        
Rear view

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Who at Westinghouse would have thought that 60 years after production the shipping braces would be going back on the machine?




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Post# 695454 , Reply# 11   8/9/2013 at 23:07 (3,905 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        
top view...

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I have the counterweights, but I left them off the machine for easier moving.  This thing still has to get back to Virginia!




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Post# 695455 , Reply# 12   8/9/2013 at 23:09 (3,905 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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Thanks to Paul, I know this is part of the door mechanism... I've got to figure out where it was hooked and recalibrate it.




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Post# 695456 , Reply# 13   8/9/2013 at 23:10 (3,905 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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Nice clean tub.  I tried it out and it spins!


Post# 695457 , Reply# 14   8/9/2013 at 23:11 (3,905 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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tub part 2


Post# 695459 , Reply# 15   8/9/2013 at 23:14 (3,905 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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partial instructions


Post# 695460 , Reply# 16   8/9/2013 at 23:16 (3,905 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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I have more of these but they will have to be pieced back together.  I don't know the percentage I have.  :/


Post# 695461 , Reply# 17   8/9/2013 at 23:18 (3,905 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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Model Tag.  Again what does the M mean in LB-6M?

 

That's it for tonight, but this thread isn't done yet.  More to come!


Post# 695466 , Reply# 18   8/9/2013 at 23:28 (3,905 days old) by newvista58 (Northern NJ)        
Very Cool Sets

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I'm Happy to say I got a matched
set of Maytags. A700S and DE700
thanks to Ted in Maryland --
Sept 1961. They're white like
yours. I really Want Turquoise
or Yellow, but couldn't pass
on the chance to have a matched
Maytag set.

The Westinghouse Slant Front is my
first Choice of a Front Loader.
I hope to have a set of those
as well.

Thanks for Sharing. Good Luck
with all:)


Post# 695507 , Reply# 19   8/10/2013 at 05:34 (3,905 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Funny Thing....

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....About matched sets - as well as anything else you're looking for:

It either happens easily, or it's like pulling teeth. Around last Christmastime, I had a matched set of Maytags (A806 washer, DE806 dryer, both White) just fall into my lap. They weren't even expensive; in fact, the washer was free.

But finding a GE range like I wanted? A three-year search, and more drama than you'd find in a boxed set of Dynasty: The Complete Series.

Seems like there's nothing between these two extremes.


Post# 695508 , Reply# 20   8/10/2013 at 05:36 (3,905 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Nice finds there

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Will, I love mine! Now be sure to be aware when moving the  washer especially w/o the weights - the tub can slide so far that some snubbers can be knocked off their pins, and fall completely out of the machine. Don't want to loose any of those!

 

 


Post# 695521 , Reply# 21   8/10/2013 at 06:18 (3,905 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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It looks great, Will! Good idea about removing the tub counter-weights - I never thought about that. The tub looks excellent and the fact that you got the Laundromat to spin is a very good sign. I'll email you about changing the oil in the speed changer - if the machine has been sitting idle for a few years you may want to consider it.

I wonder if that 'M' designated that the machine was made in Mansfield, Ohio? Heaven forbid it be confused with the lowly CLB-6 made in Hamilton, Ontario... LOL


Post# 695614 , Reply# 22   8/10/2013 at 14:53 (3,905 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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Thanks everyone!

 

Paul- Perhaps you are right.  It is interesting though.  I'll gladly take any help I can get with advice/etc.  I need to get/find a service manual.

 

Jon- With all shipping braces in place that tub is going nowhere, but I appreciate the advice.  I notice one of my snubbers looks different than the rest... perhaps it was a replacement.

 

There is still more to come though!  Remember the dryer I picked up last month?  I.E. the only other machine I own without a mate...


Post# 695653 , Reply# 23   8/10/2013 at 17:08 (3,905 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        
Well... Meet my new 800 washer!

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I picked it up from Chris (sorry forgot your username) today!  I officially have 3 matching sets and am cashing out while my lucky streak is going strong.

 

 




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Post# 695654 , Reply# 24   8/10/2013 at 17:09 (3,905 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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pretty!


Post# 695656 , Reply# 25   8/10/2013 at 17:10 (3,905 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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money shot


Post# 695657 , Reply# 26   8/10/2013 at 17:11 (3,905 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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model tag


Post# 695658 , Reply# 27   8/10/2013 at 17:11 (3,905 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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bottom


Post# 695659 , Reply# 28   8/10/2013 at 17:12 (3,905 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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Dave's impressed!


Post# 695696 , Reply# 29   8/10/2013 at 18:31 (3,905 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
That Pair of Kenmore 800s....

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....Is the only non-Maytag set I've ever coveted.

The reason is that my grandmother had them - her first automatics. The dryer is still in use by my aunt.

A set of those is the only thing I'd trade Maytags for, Will.

Well, those or a '67 Caprice four-door hardtop with the 427, Turbo Hydra-Matic, Comfortron, 8-track and power everything.

Don't want much, do I?


Post# 695719 , Reply# 30   8/10/2013 at 20:06 (3,905 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
1968 Kenmore 800 Washer

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WOW Will that washer looks to be in pretty good condition, AND you didn't tell me it is a Suds-Saver model, it appears to be very original, which is almost always a good thing, so it was diffidently a lightly used washer.

 

The machine still has the original SC lint filter, water pump and a Delco motor and appears to be otherwise completely unmolested.

 

Interestingly Sandy my Grandmothers first and only automatic washer was also this exact machine, WO SS, and I agree I would diffidently trade this washer for any MT DC ever built if I was actually going to wash my laundry in it.


Post# 695724 , Reply# 31   8/10/2013 at 20:18 (3,904 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
John:

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My grandmother's was also minus the Suds-Saver feature, which puzzled me when I thought about it in later years - she was a lady with a great deal of respect for a dollar.

I finally figured it out. Prior to saving her dressmaking money (she was the best damn custom seamstress in East Point, GA, in an era when that title really meant something) up for the 800 pair, she'd been doing laundry for years with two wringer washers and a clothesline. Over the years, I helped her with laundry as much as she'd permit (which was not much), and I witnessed a lot of hassle, like laundry getting resoiled by soot or nearby construction or getting blown off the clothesline.

What I finally realized she had wanted with the 800s was to push a button and not do another damned thing. She had definitely earned that right. Her entire approach to laundry changed once the 800s were in place - she'd been sticking to the "old ways," with Clorox and bluing and Faultless starch that had to be dissolved.

After the 800s, she started using spray starch, Miracle White, all kinds of new products. The quality of her results did not suffer one whit; she was as adept with the new ways as she'd been with the old ones.


Post# 695742 , Reply# 32   8/10/2013 at 21:51 (3,904 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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Thanks fellas.  John, how do you decode the dates on the Kenmores?  I'm just curious how close this was made to the dryer?  I've attached a link to the thread that I posted when I got the dryer.  I know the Maytags are two months apart.  I'm not sure on the Westinghouses.  Does anyone know how to decode them?



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Post# 695752 , Reply# 33   8/10/2013 at 22:19 (3,904 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
1968 Kenmore 800 Washer

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Will the washer is a little older being made the 28th week of 1968 in the Clyde Ohio factory and the dryer was made the 43rd week of 1968 in the Marion Ohio factory. Whirlpool is still running both these factories full time and they are probably the two biggest factories in the world making washers and clothes dryers.


Post# 695759 , Reply# 34   8/10/2013 at 22:39 (3,904 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

Congratulations on finding these sets. The Kenmore washer looks like it has seen light use. It's great that it has the original parts still intact. Hopefully they all will work okay.

Have a good one,
James


Post# 695789 , Reply# 35   8/11/2013 at 07:51 (3,904 days old) by mitch (Atlanta)        
Nice!

Those look great!!

Post# 695831 , Reply# 36   8/11/2013 at 11:56 (3,904 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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The Kenmore looks wonderful!! I think you'll enjoy having the bleach and fabric softener dispensers - it's a real luxury to not have to remember to add them manually.

Post# 695842 , Reply# 37   8/11/2013 at 12:50 (3,904 days old) by appnut (TX)        
you'll enjoy having the bleach and fabric softener dispe

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I believe the Maytag 702 has agitator in-post dispenser cup for fs and there's also the famous Maytag bleach dispenser which gradually adds the bleach once agitation begins. 


Post# 695852 , Reply# 38   8/11/2013 at 13:27 (3,904 days old) by carmine (Detroit)        

I'm glad that Kenmore could go to someone that wanted it. (I am the former owner) Someday when I move into a "keeper" house rather than the latest investment, I'll build a 1st floor laundry with matched vintage appliances. In the meantime, my matched Calypso set is still getting the job done.

I am rather surprised no one has noticed the Zenith porthole, or RCA CTC-10 visable in the background... Or what is in the garage? Here are some other vintage things that shared the truck bed on the ride down from Detroit...



Post# 695880 , Reply# 39   8/11/2013 at 17:17 (3,904 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Maytag Timed ? [ slightly delayed ] Bleach Dispensers

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While this dispenser did a good job of diluting the LCB and not releasing it till the agitation began, it is ALL in the wash water within one minute after agitation begins which is faster than this washer can even get a full load turned over once LOL,

 

The KMs LCB dispenser keeps all the LCB away from the clothing till the timer reaches the four minute mark in the wash cycle, this approach is much better for allowing the detergent to do its intended job and protects the clothing and even prolongs many parts of the washer that come in contact with the wash water.


Post# 695895 , Reply# 40   8/11/2013 at 18:20 (3,904 days old) by appnut (TX)        
our 1964 Norge Dispensomat

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John, our Norge also held bleach until the 4 minute mark.  I knew Kenmore's did too.  I just expected all machines with dispensers did the same thing.  What do you expect from a 9 to 10 year old kid with limited appliance exposure at that point in time.


Post# 695907 , Reply# 41   8/11/2013 at 18:45 (3,904 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Carmine:

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I am so glad that beauty found a home! I have been sighing over it since you posted it a while back, but time/transport/space constraints made it pretty much a pipe dream. As I mentioned upthread, my Aunt Margie still has my grandmother's 800 dryer, and I've always wanted to make the set complete again - only Kenmore dream I have these days.

Glad it's with someone who appreciates it!


Post# 695940 , Reply# 42   8/11/2013 at 20:39 (3,903 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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I'm missing one of the rear self leveling feet for the Kenmore Washer.  Does anyone have a spare?


Post# 696933 , Reply# 43   8/16/2013 at 18:52 (3,899 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        
Be it ever so humble...

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There is no place like home...  The Maytags are jealous, but they will be going back to Dave next trip to Cincinnati (or when he comes here) and the loan will be returned.  Thanks Dave!


Post# 696934 , Reply# 44   8/16/2013 at 19:00 (3,899 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        
America's favorite Irish twins...

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One of these days I want a laundry room where the washer can be next to the dryer.  Perhaps one day.  Thanks to Dave for the parts to get the Kenmore dryer up and running.

 

Looking closely at the twins, I noticed a couple of differences.  While they were both made in Mansfield, Ohio, the font on/design of the two model tags are different.  Also, the base plate is constructed differently and the glass in the door is different in each machine.  On the clothes dryer the glass is rounded and on the laundromat it is pointed.  Otherwise there appears to be no difference.  I think the dryer is a '53 model and the washer a '54... based on these small differences and from what I can tell from old ads.




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