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Frigemores dwarfed in the presence of the big guys |
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Post# 44735 , Reply# 1   9/9/2004 at 08:53 (6,767 days old) by frigilux ![]() |
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Here, here! I am also a great supporter of the Fridgemore FL washer. I have the Fridge version, myself. While it would be nice to have the tub capacity to wash a horse AND its blanket, as in the HE4T, I have no complaints. My old 1996 Fridgidaire (the first generation of the Electrolux-designed front-loaders) is currently being used in a duplex and has never required a service call. Viva le Fridgemore!
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Post# 44741 , Reply# 3   9/9/2004 at 10:26 (6,767 days old) by rayjay ![]() |
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Hi agiflow-action. I have the LG WM2032HW and love it. It is a quality built machine, and cleans and rinses the clothes thoroughly. By the way, I live in Carteret which is only around 10 minutes away from Iselin. Ray |
Post# 44750 , Reply# 5   9/9/2004 at 12:29 (6,767 days old) by parunner58 ![]() |
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HI We just bought a Frigidaire GLTF1670A FL Gallery washer about 2 months ago. This is the first fl we have ever owned and used. We love it. We have washed everything for socks to fullsize quilts to delicate lace curtains and everything was done perfectly. My wife says it washes cleaner than the two TL GE's that we owned. The last GE died at 7 years with a bad pump motor and when is was 1 month old the washer mortor broke and a year after that the rubber tub mounts all broke. The first GE was over 14 years old when the tranny went. SO with all all that having gone wrong we did not repair it we bought a new one and not GE. We have had good luck with our Frigidaire Gallery dishwasher and that out inlaws always had Frigidaire that is what we picked. Many unhappy Maytag Friends said to stay away from the Neptune. We will get the matching dryer if out 20 year old Whirlpool gas dryer ever quits. That i doubt very mucah as it is built like a tank. We are very impressed with how much energy this is going to save. We have cut down on detergent by using Tide HE and dryer is cut dramatically also. I feel in the long run the cost savings will far out weigh the extra $ we paid for it. Plus I love to watch it run. Especially the high speed final spin. |
Post# 44799 , Reply# 7   9/10/2004 at 04:47 (6,766 days old) by Launderess ![]() |
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FriGeMore's have that big black and ugly boot which I do not really care for. There also seems to be a problem with some units with rear bearing failures after about three or four years. Indeed it seems that period of time is the benchmark for FriGeMore's, if the machine makes it past four years without trouble then one is home free. Also would it kill Electrolux to add a heater/water booster? Launderess |
Post# 44800 , Reply# 8   9/10/2004 at 06:28 (6,766 days old) by wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)   |   | |
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I also have had only front loading washiers for the past 18 years for everyday starting with Westinghouse to the first frigmore. after about 4 years the tub broke off the support. Since I live out in the woods a service call was not needed since it was evident that the washer died so I took it apart and wrote a nasty letter to Electorlux. After sending them pictures with heated exchange of email they finally sent me a check for 500.00 for a replacement. Also I was in Best buy yesterday and the LG and Semiens were making me wish I needed a new washer LOL beautiful machines and yes they make the frigmores look like compacts. I was also scoping out the dishwashers and Whirlpool put the silverware rack back hanging in the door ... What is old is new happy washing Philippe |
Post# 44805 , Reply# 9   9/10/2004 at 08:10 (6,766 days old) by appnut ![]() |
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I will be getting a refurbished Frigidaire when Steve 1/18 comes to Texas for a visit. I look forward to finally having a FLer. Agiflow, I don't think a laundramat FLer is a fair comparison. They are designed for quick turnaround of about 30 minutes. The Frigidaire can wash up to 18 minutes before it starts rinsing. And the capacity is about as much, if not more, than your 90 Series Kenmore, which I have the 1986 LK version, and the FLer is MUCH easier on your clothes. Phillippe, I remember when that Frigidaire died on you. Also, Whirlpool has always kept the silverware basket in the door. The exceptions are their very low-end models that have the durawash style of spraying, and also has a small capacity of 8-10 place settings because of all the funnels in both the lower and upper rack. |
Post# 44829 , Reply# 11   9/10/2004 at 14:31 (6,766 days old) by Launderess ![]() |
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Problem with the FriGeMore models is that the bearing and tub assembly are one part. Even if only the bearings go the entire assembly has to be replaced, a very costly repair job unless under warranty. Most people just chuck the washer (if it cannot be repaired under warranty), and start new as the repair bill can easily come to half or more of the original purchase price. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to why these units have bearing/tub failures. Some units work day in and day out for years without a problem, others see lighter use but still do not make it past the four year mark. Launderess |
Post# 44889 , Reply# 14   9/11/2004 at 15:52 (6,765 days old) by Launderess ![]() |
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Post# 44963 , Reply# 15   9/12/2004 at 22:29 (6,764 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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I've had the Kenmore version of the Electrolux FL for four years and it runs like the day it was installed. (Knock on wood.) :-) It does about 10 to 15 loads a week. I think it will hold as much laundry as any agitator washer on the market today and wash it better, especially large loads. The tub looks deceivingly small, but there is no agitator and you can FILL it...not just loosely fill it 3/4 full like you have to with an agitator machine to get any turnover. Believe me, it will hold as much or more than an agitator machine. It excels on rugs, blankets, etc...any large items that an agitator can't move, but only thrash against. These washers have been out since 1996 and are the least-repaired front loader in the US according to actual consumers responding to a Consumers Report survey. The Kenmore FLs actually rated fewer repairs than Kenmore's top-loaders, and about the same as Maytag top-loaders. That is not a bad record. I have heard about some owners having problems with the bearings, but I have to think these are the exceptions, at least according to what the majority of consumers are saying about these machines after 8 years. A lot of them are in use and Consumers Reports says about 10% have had to be serviced. That seems to inline with any top loader out there.(Whirlpool TLs=9%, GE & Frigidaire TLs=12%, Amana TLs=15%, Kitchaid TLs= 17% Maytag FLs=20%) The problem is that almost any repair on any washer these days is going to cost almost as much as a new machine. Philippe, sorry your washer broke, but I have to say that Electrolux was very benevolent to give you $500 after 4 years. I don't know of any other manufacturers that would have done that. I wish Whirlpool would have when the transmission of my Whirlpool DD top-loader went after a couple years of use in the 80s. Every manufacturer has lemons, albiet some more than others. So bottom line....get a Kenmore FL (FriGEmore) at a Sears outlet for a reduced price. If you are doing a lot of wash you'll love the low water use and the fast, fast spin. |
Post# 44969 , Reply# 16   9/13/2004 at 01:30 (6,764 days old) by kenmore1978 ()   |   | |
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I imagine that the machines that do have booster heaters have to keep the wattage so low that it makes the cycle time excessively long unless they also reduce the draw of the motor. |
Post# 44979 , Reply# 17   9/13/2004 at 06:14 (6,763 days old) by Laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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Hey Jason, Keep your eyes pealed.Best Buy has told me that Frigidaire will be unvailing a 4.0 cu ft capacity front loader exclusively for them with a much larger opening as well as a larger tub and sleaker design control panel.No word as to the date but it supposed to be before winter.It will also have a more reasonable price as compared to other brands ie Bosch,LG,Maytag,and Whirlpool.I personaly am on pins and needles and bighting my nails to the quick waiting to see them!!!! |
Post# 44987 , Reply# 18   9/13/2004 at 09:30 (6,763 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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Post# 45140 , Reply# 20   9/15/2004 at 04:29 (6,761 days old) by Laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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Post# 45433 , Reply# 21   9/20/2004 at 04:46 (6,756 days old) by programcomputer (Ann Arbor Michigan, USA)   |   | |
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I have owned front load washers since 1999,when I bought my Westinghouse Laundromat's. My grandmother owned a slant front Westy set that I have ascertained was built in 1963. But f4rom what I can tell, Westinghouse diddn't really change their machines at all from 1961-63'. Now, if you look at the current Maytag Neptunes, you will see that they have the tub tilted, and it looks kinda like the old pre-1959 Westinghouse tubs. But all of them are straight fronts and they are sill NOT easy to load no matter what; unless you have the under- drawers for them that most models offer. Now when we rebuilt our laundry this spring, Where my {"daily use")machines sit,which used to be my old Westinghouse Space Mates; was built a six inch riser out of 4by 8's and 3/4 inch plywood and tiled to look like the floor that is in there. In the process we raised the sink that is next to the washer. It's NOW easier to load my new front loaders than before. My new machines ARE the Frigidaire Gallery Gold Crown washer and dryer with the rear backsplash and controls. And the newer backsplash which looks like they could possibly have a lighted control panel. Which unfortunatly no current modelsthat I know of...do. My Westinghouse's went above aour new garage where we put in a complete apartment and I put them in the kitchenette stacked so company can use them. My 1-18's are now in the basement in what SHOULD be the Laundryroom. I have never had a problem with either set, and BELIEVE me I have no problem putting all my king size bed comforters and sheets in and getting them clean. I have done laundry for people before while their staying with us, and they haveall complimented how clean and fresh their clothes are and smell, and can't believe that we have front loaders. My average between two of us and company who forever come to stay because we are fourtunate to just have the extra room...is anywhere from 10-as much as 15 loads a week. So I have been ultra-fortunate to never have one issue with them since I have owned them which is now just a few months over a year. I believe that manufacturers in th 40's and 50's and until Wesitnghouse gave up in 1974...when front loaders were still viewed as "not as good, or as worthy of praise" as now, were viewed as such because of manufacturers and the ignorant counterparts at current periodicals, downed them because I personally believe that they were afraid of what good products they were. I have heard that old saw that General Electric dealers telling people the old wives tales about (FL's) leaking and flooding their house. This was at the same time that they were selling their Washer Dryer combo's that were prone to leak and never worked properly...a few surviving examples are the exception to the rule. Just my opinion. My Westies only leaked when I filled that tub WAY beyond the norm where clothes were sticking out into the boot area and pushing against the door. Other than that I never had it leak and even when I did what I did as a test..it was only a small drip...which diddn't even soak the hand towel that I put there just to see how much ended up leaking. But again...just to state a point...they need to re-introduce the slant front so it's easier to load. Again just an opinion. Thanks Chad |
Post# 45479 , Reply# 22   9/20/2004 at 20:02 (6,756 days old) by tolivac ![]() |
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Have the patents on these expired and gone public?If so then anyone should be able to build and market them.-A neat blast from the past. |
Post# 45501 , Reply# 23   9/21/2004 at 03:05 (6,756 days old) by programcomputer (Ann Arbor Michigan, USA)   |   | |
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It would almost seem so that the patents have expired; since the last slant front rolled out of the Mansfield plant 41 years ago. I just remember that my grandma, whil not being the tallest woman around really diddn't have to bend down to get at the clean clothes. She is 5'2 so like Im a foot and an inch taller. I remember that the dryer drum was not accessed by a very large opening, only slightly larger in diameter than the laundro's "hole". I asked he fairly recently WHY she felt the need to get new Maytag's, when it was readily appearant that the Westy's still worked (to my young knowledge)....and she stated that...your grandpa wouldn't get it fixed when the motor stopped in the washer...he just felt that they had served their putpose so he bought me the current set I have in the basement...which are plain ass jane mid 80's Maytag Deep Tub Fabric Matic's. She told me that when she redoes the kitchen this winter, she is getting a stacked Fridgemore set to put where the current vacuum cleaner closet is. I smiled and said...as long as you get a Frigidiare or Kenmore built.."You can Be Sure...that it will work well. At least I have absolutly NO complaints....I have head it tho, and not just from thse pages that persons have had issues with the tub breaking off from the drive hub, and other minor assorted maladies that plague all new appliances. At least in the new FridGeMore sets the did away with the "damper tong's on the dog ear's " lower suspension and rocking horse looking upper springs on little ears, and went back to two heavy duty looking shocks....like the Laundromat's of yore. I can't tell you how many out of balance loads sent that lower suspension out of whack and I would have to work it back into their proper blaces to stop the ear deafening banging that would occur. Anyway, Frigidaires will probably always be poupular with the buying public because by now most if not all the bugs have been worked out of production, and are approaching prices of middle upper line machines of the TL style. It's kinda appearant that machines priced above $800.00 aren't all that much better in many ways and their just aren't enough folks it seems that want to spend more than that for JUST a washer? And I agree with a different post also..Maytag has really dropped the ball hardcore on their reliability and build quality where now their not viewed as ANY better than the early 80's WCI TL machines which were pooh poohed at the time as being unreliable dogs. Whirlpool is now and probably will forever be the new "king of the laundry appliance hill", and that's fine with me. I still see too many of the old BD and DD Whirlies and Kenny's and so few late model Maytags. Ironic how the ruels of the game can change with just a few decades... Chad |
Post# 45592 , Reply# 25   9/22/2004 at 15:29 (6,754 days old) by veg-o-matic (Baltimore, Hon!)   |   | |
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I bought a Frigidaire FL early this spring when I got my tax return. Got it for a couple of reasons: first, I could stack it with the matching dryer and free up some room in my laundry room for storing crap---I mean, important stuff. Second, I've always wanted a front loader (I could watch 'em for hours) and figured I'd never be able to find a pink Westinghouse, which is what I really want. (Drifting: I was really surprised and pleased to find this site. I didn't think anyone but I appreciated vintage appliances. I see I'm in good company!) Now here's a question: I see these called FriGeMores because they're sold under all three names. Who really makes them? I'm hoping it's Electrolux. I've had GE appliances in the recent past and was less than pleased with them. In fact, when I got the Frigidaire and matching dryer, they were to replace a 3 year old GE set (they were in my condo when I bought it.) There wasn't actually anything wrong with the GEs, but the washer never really spun the water out of the clothes well enough and the dryer didn't even have a buzzer to let you know when it was done. Cheap, cheap, cheap. I also replaced the GE fridge and dishwasher with Ropers which I *love*, despite the fact that they were very inexpensive. |
Post# 45593 , Reply# 26   9/22/2004 at 15:32 (6,754 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 45630 , Reply# 27   9/23/2004 at 08:11 (6,753 days old) by Christd1 ()   |   | |
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I thought the water level was automatic? I'm sure you can still adjust the water level by adjusting the pressure switch setting though. |
Post# 45744 , Reply# 28   9/25/2004 at 15:45 (6,751 days old) by appnut ![]() |
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Post# 45913 , Reply# 29   9/27/2004 at 19:56 (6,749 days old) by programcomputer (Ann Arbor Michigan, USA)   |   | |
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Hi, Yes in all Frigidaire front loaders there is an automatic "Load to Save" water level adjuster that I was explained to worked like this. Whatever you put in your tub to be washed, it drops the tub down in increments. As it drops, the upper tub is connected by a mechanism to the Water Level Control switch that adds to correct amount of water. It's kinda like they combined the old "Weigh To Save Door" and the Water Level Control Switch into one easy to use "Automatic" unit. To my knowledge since it uses the same WLC as the older models, you can get to it and adjust it for more water. I have never felt the need to, since it seems to do a very decent job of "guessing" what it needs for itself. According to my build diagram which is usually packed inside the washer's outer body, mine was located in a large manilla envelope glued to the inner right hand wall, near the motor's; of the outer cabinet. This document tells that the water level control mechanism on my machine is in the back left hand corner. Anyway, I still like mine and have had trouble free service and only see that I will continue to have in the future.... Chad |
Post# 46173 , Reply# 30   10/2/2004 at 09:12 (6,744 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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I have not seen it yet and am going by what was told to me by a realiable source @ the Best Buy here in Altamonte Springs,Fl.He said that it will be the largest capacity front loading washer for the home ever(4.0 cu ft) and is going to be made exclusively for Best Buy the same as the 1 piece front loading stacked Frigidaire front loaders are only available at Lowe's or on the internet@www.frigidaire.com.They... will be an exclusive line. However he could not tell me an exact date when they were to arive.As soon as I find out or see them,I'll post it.The Home Depot will soon be carrying the Frigidaire line and will have a brand made by Amana for Their stores only.I am not sure but I think the name brand is going to be Ensignia.
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Post# 46176 , Reply# 31   10/2/2004 at 09:22 (6,744 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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Post# 46182 , Reply# 32   10/2/2004 at 12:06 (6,744 days old) by Launderess ![]() |
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Post# 46461 , Reply# 35   10/7/2004 at 15:05 (6,739 days old) by christd1 ()   |   | |
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For the people that obsess about the shipping bolts staying in until the unit is 3 feet from its home....Take that !! |