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1947 Jacobs Launderall
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Post# 696324   8/13/2013 at 21:12 (3,879 days old) by gearpower ()        

Hi everybody

I'm new on the forum

I'm not a collector of vintage appliances, but I'm looking for some good ones to have advices...

My father own a Jacobs Launderall 1947 Full Automatic Washing Machine.
It's brand new, never been installed, never turned, never got water inside. Still on original wood base. With warranty certificate, service and parts manual.

Some minor rust on the body but still in really great shape!

He is looking to sell it, but he doesn't know what it's value. Any of you could help us with this??

Pictures:

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Thanks





Post# 696333 , Reply# 1   8/13/2013 at 22:20 (3,879 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
That is one incredibly rare machine!

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And the stampede begins!


Post# 696340 , Reply# 2   8/13/2013 at 23:39 (3,879 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Oh my goodness, an H axis top loader! I wonder if they sold these in France?

Post# 696342 , Reply# 3   8/13/2013 at 23:46 (3,879 days old) by A440 ()        

Incredible!

Post# 696343 , Reply# 4   8/13/2013 at 23:55 (3,879 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Ah There's Good News Tonight

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Someone's IRA/401K fund is about to get huge boost! *LOL*

Post# 696346 , Reply# 5   8/14/2013 at 00:43 (3,879 days old) by xpanam (Palm Springs California )        

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NO WAY!!!!!! Dose it still have the new car smell?

Post# 696351 , Reply# 6   8/14/2013 at 01:21 (3,879 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
CALLING TURQUOISEDUDE..........

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AMAZING!

 

This is in YOUR neighborhood!   If you don't grab it for yourself, drab it to hold for one of us!!!!

 

Kevin


Post# 696353 , Reply# 7   8/14/2013 at 01:29 (3,879 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

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As seen (disguised) on I Love Lucy.

Post# 696371 , Reply# 8   8/14/2013 at 02:59 (3,879 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        
Delete While You Still Can

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Launderess nailed it.

 

I don't play poker, but I think I could win against this bunch.

 

So much for anyone getting a good deal on this machine.


Post# 696372 , Reply# 9   8/14/2013 at 03:08 (3,879 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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No, these were not sold in France AFAIK. The automatics came later on the market in France. I believe they weren't very long on the market anyway, IIRC there were some problems with it. A few members have one of these in their collection.

Robert scanned a service manual for these machines. It's in this thread:

www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/T...



Post# 696379 , Reply# 10   8/14/2013 at 04:30 (3,879 days old) by Easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC)        
As a kid . . .

. . . MANY years ago, I remember using one of these. It was fascinating to me. It must be bolted to the floor. It reverses in the wash and rinse.

It would be a treasure for whoever is lucky enough to get it.

Jerry Gay


Post# 696384 , Reply# 11   8/14/2013 at 05:30 (3,878 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
My Two Pence

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While obviously it *may* come down to whom has the biggest wallet or credit card, a rare treasure like this really needs to go to the number of "qualified" members and or persons that know what to do with this washer.

Am *NOT* casting dispersions but our Fearless Leader/Webmaster, RevvinKevin, Combo52, etc... and others that have seasoned experience with coaxing a 40 year old appliance back to life and how to maintain including parts and or repair are obvious choices. This is not the sort of plug and play appliance you can use as a daily driver without knowing how to go about things.

That being said it is almost certain scheming and planning is going on! *LOL* The one saving mercy is the thing is located in Canada. Had it been in the Lower 48, then Whooaa Nellie! There would be more excitement than a mouse at a burlesque show.


Post# 696394 , Reply# 12   8/14/2013 at 06:31 (3,878 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
HahahAh

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very funny Launderess!

 

WOwweee how did this remain on its skid all these years? What is that story gearpower? I want to know!

 

 

Paul has been alerted- -- He was Sleeping Everybody! Can you imagine??

 

 

 




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Post# 696395 , Reply# 13   8/14/2013 at 06:34 (3,878 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
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Post# 696404 , Reply# 16   8/14/2013 at 07:49 (3,878 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        
Oh my!

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Wow, I missed this thread - shame on me!!

I am going to contact the seller - if anyone else has, though, please let me know.

I'm not sure I'd be interested in this one myself, but I'd be more than happy to help someone here get it. I can store it for a short time, but it would have to be out of the garage before the snow falls.


Post# 696405 , Reply# 17   8/14/2013 at 07:49 (3,878 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
New Launderall

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WOW, It is amazing what is still turning up in the classic appliance world.

 

I for one will not be getting in the bidding for this very cool rare machine, I heard a little too much about all the problems that these machines from an older appliance tech that Tom and I had the pleasure of meeting and knowing years ago, Mr Hunter of Slatteries Appliance in NW Washington DC.

 

The stories he told of trying to get these machines to work at all and all the major reworks that had to be done would make the worst piece of junk built today look like the most reliable machine ever built. If I did get this machine I would probably hook it up and try to run it and do a video for the future, but would differently not try to use it on an ongoing basses.

 

Good Luck to who ever is lucky enough to buy it and I would love it see one someday that is actually running. John


Post# 696412 , Reply# 18   8/14/2013 at 08:17 (3,878 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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That certainly is a rare find, I'd love to hear the story about how it was kept unused all these years.

My Launderall dealer here talked about his experience as a dealer for Jacobs and this machine, obviously it didn't end well for most of the dealers or customers.





Post# 696431 , Reply# 19   8/14/2013 at 10:10 (3,878 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Could We....

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....Please watch the hyperbole?

This is a washing machine, not an all-original, zero-miles 1957 Chevy Bel Air convertible with factory fuel injection. It is a rare washing machine, and it will fetch good money - for a washing machine, that is - but no one's going to retire on the proceeds.

As much as I love AW and all the people here, I can get a little vexed at the tendency of some members to start shrieking like Shirley Temple in a birthday cake factory whenever something particularly desirable turns up. I know of one instance where a member discovered something very rare, fairly priced, on CL, and was making arrangements to close the deal on it. By the time our drama divas discovered it and got through shouting from the housetops, the item had been withdrawn from CL, the price went totally through the roof, and another, deep-pockets member ended up with it. Someone whose love for the hobby and frequent help of others is legendary around here got totally screwed by this horsetwaddle.

Again, it's a freaking washing machine. The next time some of you shriekers want to make derogatory comments about a fairly ordinary set of pink or turquoise Maytags in crappy condition priced in the thousands, you might stop to think that AW is the first place to which Google will direct the non-hobbyist; this sort of discussion can fuel an unknowledgeable seller's delusions.

What the general public ought to see here is reasonable discussion based in realistic pricing, not posts that make a rare item sound like a freaking Powerball win.

/rant




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Post# 696436 , Reply# 20   8/14/2013 at 10:55 (3,878 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
Here here Sandy!!!! VERY well put!

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I agree with you 100 percent!!!

 

I've seen it too many times before... and it has affected me directly on one or two occasions when I had an interest in a machine that came up for sale.

 

When I see some exciting machine (like this), I may posts my "excitement" about it, but I don't want to effect someone's chance at aquiring it.

 

I really think people forget this is a totally public forum which can be viewed by anyone anywhere, not just a private club that only we can see.

 

Kevin


Post# 696439 , Reply# 21   8/14/2013 at 11:42 (3,878 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Jon did a dramatic Launderall Flambe some years back. It was not the plan, but was the result.

Post# 696441 , Reply# 22   8/14/2013 at 11:50 (3,878 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Well, if there is something I've learned here, it's to never post and comment about a machine that you are interested in purchasing yourself. In a blink of an eye, someone else will grab it. So much for courtesy.

 

So shrieking aside, lets be honest here, this machine was never going to be a bargain. It's going to go to the one with the deepest pockets.  End of story.

 

 


Post# 696442 , Reply# 23   8/14/2013 at 11:54 (3,878 days old) by gearpower ()        
History

Here is the story:

This washer was found in an old appliances store in 1983. We suppose it haven't been sold because of it's high price, 399 Canadian dollars in 1947 (wrote on the AD).
We bought it and never used it to keep it original.




Post# 696443 , Reply# 24   8/14/2013 at 11:58 (3,878 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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Wow!! That's really cool!

gearpower: I've sent you an email about this machine. I'd love to know where it's located, 'cause I'd love to come see it! Merci!


Post# 696444 , Reply# 25   8/14/2013 at 12:00 (3,878 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Gosh !

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I've had several people yield machines to me, and I have yielded a few myself. Most recently Greg alerted me to a machine we both wanted that I didn't know was still available. Have found that to be the rule here rather than the exception.






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Post# 696448 , Reply# 26   8/14/2013 at 12:28 (3,878 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

You so have to wonder at the demented reasoning behind locating the timer in the transmission. The one I touched as a kid left me cold because you could not really watch the clothes tumbling. That was in the late 50s, though, and it was still working so some of them must have worked or must have been re-engineered to work. I am sure that if the mother and I had been in the kitchen together, I would have found out a lot of information. Instead it was their teenage children, me, at about 9 or 10 and my little brother, a conversational condition like a wheel with missing spokes: hard to get rolling smoothly.

Post# 696451 , Reply# 27   8/14/2013 at 12:37 (3,878 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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That's great that Paul's on the case. With his pics, his texts, it'll all end well. And he can tell hubby it's a giant cheese grater-refrigerator which is exactly what that tub looks like.

Post# 696484 , Reply# 28   8/14/2013 at 15:09 (3,878 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        
Giant Cheese Grater

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Oh, lord no, if I told Hubby that, he'd expect me to turn out 16 pounds of grated romano with it... LOL

It took me a LONG time to convince him not to use the 53 Westy Laundromat as a rock polisher.


Post# 696497 , Reply# 29   8/14/2013 at 15:52 (3,878 days old) by rpms (ontario canada)        

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I can see why they were not a hot seller. Using the inflation calculator,that washer would have cost $4,046.83. Think of how many wringer washers and laundressessessessess you could buy or hire.

Post# 696554 , Reply# 30   8/14/2013 at 21:17 (3,878 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Oh, having read the horror story associated to Jon's Launderall, I did skip this thread! And I didn't even think it could be in our neighborhood! 


Post# 696579 , Reply# 31   8/15/2013 at 00:02 (3,878 days old) by Launderall (Minneapolis, MN Orig home to Listerine & pop up Toastmaster)        
Front load, schumk load, top load tumbler the best

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I have one, found it 25 years ago bolted with 12" bolts about 25 years ago. Have yet to see one show up in anyone else collection. It's one of a kind, not made for more than a couple of years. Very short run for all the toolup to produce it. Google Jacob's, facinating story.


The F. L. Jacobs Company, A Soda Machine Company

F. L. Jacobs originally specialized in manufacturing home appliances like the Jacobs Launderall washing machine out of Detroit, Michigan. They began manufacturing soda vending machines for Coca-Cola in the 1940’s from a plant in Indianapolis, Indiana. Their machines have a unique shape referred to by collectors as the “mailbox” shape. They are believed to be one of the few manufacturers that the Coca-Cola Company authorized to continue making Coca-Cola soda vending machines in limited quantities through the course of WWII. Like all machines made in that time, they had large capacities for serving the workers in the wartime factories. One of these was the enormous J-144. It weighed 580 lbs. without any soda in it and measured 65”H x 34”W x 35”D.

Nothing more interesting than our American manufacturing cities and companies, with all that "WAR" money.



Post# 696586 , Reply# 32   8/15/2013 at 01:13 (3,878 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        
A slightly distressed Jacobs for $900

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In coppertone, ahead of its time.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO arbilab's LINK on eBay


Post# 696588 , Reply# 33   8/15/2013 at 01:30 (3,878 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

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The photo from above, for when it disappears from ebay.

Post# 696601 , Reply# 34   8/15/2013 at 03:42 (3,878 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

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Speaking of war money, Jacobs was ordered to--and did repay--$15M in war money. The company didn't last long after that, roughly 2 years (1951-1953).

We can see how that might have happened. If their war materiel worked proportionally as well as their $3000 washer. Seems Coke machines were the only thing they ever got workably right.


Post# 696624 , Reply# 35   8/15/2013 at 11:20 (3,877 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
A slightly distressed Jacobs for $900

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In coppertone?   More like heavy rust-tone.

 

This is the same guy in LA with the overpriced Maytag set.   This has been relisted on eBay the last few months... and like the Maytag set, I doubt they'll go anywhere at those prices, IMHO.


Kevin 


Post# 696702 , Reply# 36   8/15/2013 at 18:45 (3,877 days old) by frontloaderfan (Merrimac valley, MA)        

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The only thing distressing about the Launderall on ebay is the asking price...

I dare someone to hit the "make an offer" button and offer him what it's really worth and see what he comes back with.


Post# 696795 , Reply# 37   8/16/2013 at 00:48 (3,877 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
I dare someone to hit "make an offer"

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If it's anything like the Maytag set he's attempting to sell, he will respond with $25 or $50 off his asking price (The Maytag set was $100 off).

Been there, done that.

Kevin



Post# 696818 , Reply# 38   8/16/2013 at 06:34 (3,876 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Tom I love that!

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"Jon did a dramatic Launderall Flambe some years back. It was not the plan, but was the result. " 

 

It was dramatic!!

 



Post# 697485 , Reply# 39   8/19/2013 at 11:44 (3,873 days old) by gearpower ()        
More pictures

I took some better pictures yesterday, the white balance was bad on the others

It is not for sale now, but it will be in the next weeks. I'll let you know :)


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Post# 776739 , Reply# 46   8/11/2014 at 16:54 (3,516 days old) by gearpower ()        
For sale!

Hi

Just to tell you, the 1947 Launderall is now listed on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dllQUES...

Feel free to contact me if you want more details.

Thanks

Dany


CLICK HERE TO GO TO gearpower's LINK on eBay


Post# 776755 , Reply# 47   8/11/2014 at 17:16 (3,516 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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Wow, she beat me to the punch by 15 minutes!  

 

I just posted this in Shoppers Square 6 minutes ago.

 

Kevin


Post# 776773 , Reply# 48   8/11/2014 at 19:13 (3,516 days old) by jmm63 (Denville, NJ)        

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I want some of what they are smoking!

Post# 776781 , Reply# 49   8/11/2014 at 19:38 (3,516 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Lawdy I do declare

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You is bad!



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Post# 777578 , Reply# 50   8/16/2014 at 09:23 (3,511 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Amazing that its

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been on the pallet all these years !!


Post# 777591 , Reply# 51   8/16/2014 at 11:44 (3,511 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
been on the pallet all these years

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Word probably got out among local housewives of the time that was the best place for the thing. *LOL*

Post# 777679 , Reply# 52   8/17/2014 at 00:51 (3,511 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

HMMM-the way folks have been talking about this machine----MAYBE the PALLET is worth more than the washer?????

Post# 778103 , Reply# 53   8/18/2014 at 23:01 (3,509 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
The Pallet

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Is what a housewife used upside her husband's head when he landed her with the Launderall under the guise of a "gift".

Post# 778296 , Reply# 54   8/20/2014 at 04:47 (3,508 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

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The Ricardos and Mertzes shoved theirs off the 3rd floor balcony. That should tell you something.


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