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Post# 107474   2/2/2006 at 23:15 (6,654 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Had an item delivered via Beltmann shipping yesterday (no, am not going to say what it was just yet), and despite requesting blanket wrapping and padding,it came simply wrapped in plastic shrink wrap. No padding, no blankets, no nothing. This despite the request being clearly spelled out on the contract.

Cannot hook the unit up just yet to see if anything internally was damaged, but already put in a call to the Beltmann rep who took the order as there are some cracks here and there. Not sure if these pre-existed but just want to cover my bases.

L.





Post# 107482 , Reply# 1   2/2/2006 at 23:40 (6,654 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Now you're teasing us?? What is it? There are cracks in it??? Is this a vintage pink toilet?

A couple of times, I've had things delivered from/through Beltmann that were just sitting on a pallet, no strapping, padding or anything and was told that the driver removed the straps and/or blankets before unloading it from the truck. I don't know if this was true but I've never had as much as a scratch on anything - that is to say due to the shipping process anyway. A 30 to 50 year old washer is bound to have a few battle wounds, just like the wrinkles around my eyes!


Post# 107483 , Reply# 2   2/2/2006 at 23:41 (6,654 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

I've only used Beltman three times. Each time the item arrived on a pallet with the plastic shrink wrap. Just like when Craters and Freighters shipped things to me. The only difference I found was the price----Beltman much less expensive-----and the folks from Beltman ALWAYS wanted to unpack and bring the machines in to the house wherever I wanted them. C&F just drops it off at the end of my driveway.

I don't blame you for being ticked off. If I had reqested a service and they had agreed to do it then I would expect it to be done. Were they going to upcharge you for the added blankets and padding? Just curious in case I ever request it.

Hope your item is o.k.


Post# 107487 , Reply# 3   2/3/2006 at 00:08 (6,654 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
No, It Is Not A Commode

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*LOL*

Contact clearly states "must double blanket wrap machines and shrink wrap over. Do not put tape or stickers directly on machines".

Don't know what went wrong, but will see if Beltmann contacts me later today.

A Teaser?

Sure, why not get in on the action? Everyone else is doing it, aren't they? *LOL*

Will be about a week until unit is installed, but will take some snaps before and post to my club album.

Again, won't know if anything internally was damaged until after installation, but wanted to put Beltmann on notice right after delivery to preserve any "rights" one may have. Do this all the time with shipping companies such as UPS. You really have only a small window of time after taking delivery to let the shipper know about potential damage. Wait to long and chances of receiving compensation become almost nil.

What is it?

That is for me to know and you all to guess. One hint, it weighs in at about 300lbs.

Launderess


Post# 107488 , Reply# 4   2/3/2006 at 00:31 (6,654 days old) by sactoteddybear ()        
Re: Wild Guess:

Maybe or maybe not accurate, but I'm thinking if this item is weighing in at around 300-pounds, it has got to be either a Stove or a Washer/Dryer Combination Unit...

I hope as well as everyone else does, that it isn't internally damaged at all. Good Luck with checking out about Beltmann's lack of Padding, etc as indicated.

Peace and Fun Times with New/Vintage Toys, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...


Post# 107506 , Reply# 5   2/3/2006 at 05:39 (6,654 days old) by stainfighter (Columbia, SC)        
re- just on pallet, shrink wrap, Beltman less $$$

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according to my recent experience it was totally the opposite. Beltman wanted nearly $200 more than Craters & Freighters did. C&F did a superb job of actually screwing down the heavy boxing all around my Fridgette Twin Tub and used solid foam on all sides internally, and shrink wrap. However they did just drop it off as another member stated. This is the second time we have used C&F and as far as packaging goes we LOVE them! Delivery, especially calling ahead, needs improvement tho'... Launderess, can't wait to see the reveal!!!

Post# 107508 , Reply# 6   2/3/2006 at 06:15 (6,654 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        
well

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seems thats the way the do.. one time its wrapped all nice and neat and another its just loose. havent had any damage as of yet and hope not cause im waiting for that tag to get here..so i guess well see..hope what ever damage your new toy has that it can be repaired

Post# 107527 , Reply# 7   2/3/2006 at 08:06 (6,654 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        
My comment and guess

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Gansky1, OF COURSE they will tell you the driver unwrapped it and then took it off the truck. NO evidence, NO proof. One must greet the truck as it arrives. One must take photos if instructions were not followed and paid for. Ok bla bla bla.

Launderess -- Might a guess another Hoover twin tub.

Good Luck!

Steve


Post# 107529 , Reply# 8   2/3/2006 at 08:14 (6,654 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Has Laundress finally succumbed to temptation and purchased a full sized classic automatic washer or dryer? Will miracles ever cease?

Post# 107531 , Reply# 9   2/3/2006 at 08:20 (6,654 days old) by rickr (.)        
300 lbs,,and a few cracks,something for the Superbowl?

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My guess is Laundress got herself an offensive lineman!! LOL!

Post# 107586 , Reply# 10   2/3/2006 at 13:33 (6,654 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Another Hoover TT?

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Oh No, absolutely no. One is more than enough, as my poor nerves cannot take too much of that! Washing isn't bad, but the spinner is just too much for more than a few loads at one time. Even that sends one running for headache pills and the couch. *LOL*

L.


Post# 107589 , Reply# 11   2/3/2006 at 13:50 (6,654 days old) by drmitch ()        

An Aqua Okeef & Meritt range!

Post# 107591 , Reply# 12   2/3/2006 at 13:53 (6,654 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Another Hoover TT?

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Oh No, absolutely no. One is more than enough, as my poor nerves cannot take too much of that! Washing isn't bad, but the spinner is just too much for more than a few loads at one time. Even that sends one running for headache pills and the couch. *LOL*

L.


Post# 107607 , Reply# 13   2/3/2006 at 16:20 (6,654 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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I have always met the truck as it arrived and so far, knock on wood, I've had no troubles with Beltmann. I don't pay much attention to the driver's comments as it's very likely they are only the last carrier to have the item anyway and have no idea what the other links in the chain have been or have done. It's always a good idea to insure whatever you're shipping for the purchase price and the cost of shipping so you're out nothing if the item is destroyed beyond repair.

Guessing on the shipment to Laundress, it would have to be a vintage automatic washer or dishwasher since she started the thread in this forum... Perhaps a vintage Maytag washer so you can join in the fan club?




Post# 107622 , Reply# 14   2/3/2006 at 17:55 (6,653 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Thanks Gansky and tothers for the support/suggestions.

Item was insured for sale cost and shipping,in fact a tad more so no worries on that score. Beltmann contacted me this afternoon and stated they were mailing out a claim form, but told them won't know what is what unitl after the unit is installed in about a week.

As for what "it" is, it's time to play "Charades"


Launderess - Holds up 1 finger (which means)



Post# 107629 , Reply# 15   2/3/2006 at 18:57 (6,653 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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Next Guess:

A pristine REAL Frigidaire refrigerator?

I am too-pid *LOL*

Steve


Post# 107631 , Reply# 16   2/3/2006 at 19:04 (6,653 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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I'll bet two bits that Launderess ordered an authentic reproduction of the now-famous Bobofhollywood mobile combo unit.

Not sure what cracked, though.


Post# 107633 , Reply# 17   2/3/2006 at 19:30 (6,653 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)        
One of a kind?

All in ONE?

A Duomatic?


Post# 107638 , Reply# 18   2/3/2006 at 19:48 (6,653 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
*Sigh*

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Makes hand/head movement against "one", but indicating relation to "one".

Second hint:

Launderess - pointing towards self, hand cupping ear.



Post# 107655 , Reply# 19   2/3/2006 at 20:23 (6,653 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        

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Maytag combos had a pink version did they not

Post# 107657 , Reply# 20   2/3/2006 at 20:34 (6,653 days old) by bethann (Indianapolis)        

Frigidaire dishwasher!

Post# 107658 , Reply# 21   2/3/2006 at 20:35 (6,653 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Not a combo, nor Maytag,but maker is famous for combination units.

Launderess (who finally figured out Charades does not translate well onto the Internet).



Post# 107671 , Reply# 22   2/3/2006 at 20:56 (6,653 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Are you doing the 'sounds like' clue?

Post# 107673 , Reply# 23   2/3/2006 at 20:58 (6,653 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
YES!!!!

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He noticed, someone finally noticed! *LOL*

L.


Post# 107680 , Reply# 24   2/3/2006 at 21:09 (6,653 days old) by sactoteddybear ()        
Re: New Guess:

It is a famous Manufacture of Combo Units, might mean what you've had arrive, could mean that your Item is something like an "All-In-One" Washer/Dryer, meaning a Top-load Washer, with a Dryer connected to it, but not actually separate Units, made by either WP or Kenmore...

Is this getting closer to what you've had arrive?

Peace and Fun Times Guessing, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...


Post# 107683 , Reply# 25   2/3/2006 at 21:15 (6,653 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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So then its a Philco or Bendix or Philco/Bendix?

Post# 107687 , Reply# 26   2/3/2006 at 21:34 (6,653 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Noch, Nicht

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Nordamerikanisch

Post# 107706 , Reply# 27   2/3/2006 at 23:06 (6,653 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)        
Sounds like simple?

Sounds like one?

Sounds like finger?

Easy? Spin washer?
Bendix mangle?


Post# 107711 , Reply# 28   2/3/2006 at 23:15 (6,653 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Holding up one finger in the beginning of a Charades session means "first word".

Cupping hand to ear is a way of saying "sounds like"

Oh fergetit, will post some snaps in a few days! *LOL*


Post# 107715 , Reply# 29   2/3/2006 at 23:46 (6,653 days old) by sactoteddybear ()        
Re: OK, please Launderess:

try to continue Launderess, so the first word is, sounds like what? Please give us some more clues, before giving up on us and just "Spilling the Beans" OK!!!

Peace and Fun Times, trying to guess your latest addition, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...


Post# 107720 , Reply# 30   2/4/2006 at 00:07 (6,653 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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I've told ya: *LOL*

"L" hold up one finger for 1st word.
Cups hand to ear "sounds like"
Points toward self



Post# 107727 , Reply# 31   2/4/2006 at 01:09 (6,653 days old) by sactoteddybear ()        
Re: Let me try another Guess:

I think that I've got it now. According to your Charades Hints, might this item be a Westinghouse Laundromat Washer? If I'm correct, might you also have or be getting a Matching Slanted-Front Dryer to go with it as well?

Peace and I hope I'm right-on now, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...


Post# 107731 , Reply# 32   2/4/2006 at 02:01 (6,653 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Or might it be a Launderall?

Post# 107733 , Reply# 33   2/4/2006 at 02:13 (6,653 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Noch,nicht Nordamerikanisch !


Post# 107735 , Reply# 34   2/4/2006 at 04:01 (6,653 days old) by sactoteddybear ()        
Re: Guessing:

Well, at least are we basically in the right field of the type or Appliance that just arrived?

My Nails are almost all gone, trying to figure this out now, I think that I'm going to have to take some Anixiety Meds, to calm me down now...{LOL}

Peace and Good Times, trying to Guess, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...


Post# 107737 , Reply# 35   2/4/2006 at 04:10 (6,653 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Was meinen Sie? LOL

Post# 107740 , Reply# 36   2/4/2006 at 06:20 (6,653 days old) by bearpeter ()        
i got it!!!!

Sounds like me..... GE!!!!

Post# 107754 , Reply# 37   2/4/2006 at 08:32 (6,653 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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Has to be vintage appliance to be posted in Deluxe!

A wahser that sounds like *LOL* and pionts toward MOI with hand cupping ear. Auh? any communication with Gizmo lately? How about Lavamat? Anything by them.(think thats how you spell it)

Steve


Post# 107768 , Reply# 38   2/4/2006 at 09:48 (6,653 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)        
OK

Sounds like laundress,
Second clue please.
It is true, Charades doesn't translate to well,
but we're getting the drift.
What kind of vintage wm is 300 lbs and can be cracked.
of course the glass window. You better take the "belt"
to Beltman!
It's a German Front loader!


Post# 107802 , Reply# 39   2/4/2006 at 15:47 (6,653 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Jumping Up and Pointing Towards FrontALoadOTMY

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Nodding head in agreement!



Post# 107816 , Reply# 40   2/4/2006 at 16:57 (6,652 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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Ah, must be one of them huge (for Europe) Miele commercial type front loaders... seldom seen on these shores... very pricey, too.

Congrats, if so (even if it's a lesser brand like AEG/Siemens/Bosch).


Post# 107817 , Reply# 41   2/4/2006 at 17:03 (6,652 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)        
On the other hand...

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""L" hold up one finger for 1st word.
Cups hand to ear "sounds like"
Points toward self"

What rhymes with "butch"???

Deutch?

(ducking and running for cover!)



Post# 107819 , Reply# 42   2/4/2006 at 17:18 (6,652 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Will We Be Having Very Much More Of This?

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Those vintage Fels soap bars are not reserved for ToggleSwitch only.

No use in your ducking, if I can nab a three year old on the fly in full gallop, certianly can catch you! *LOL*

L.


Post# 107820 , Reply# 43   2/4/2006 at 17:19 (6,652 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
No, Not Commercial

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W1070



Post# 107822 , Reply# 44   2/4/2006 at 17:27 (6,652 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)        
Oh, I get the clue now

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""L" hold up one finger for 1st word.
Cups hand to ear "sounds like"
Points toward self"


"ME" for "Miele"... LOL...

Commercial size... if not model... right?


Post# 107841 , Reply# 45   2/4/2006 at 19:31 (6,652 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Yeah, it's gotta be Miele.... but I'm still trying to figure out what the heck Nordamerikanisch means.

Post# 107842 , Reply# 46   2/4/2006 at 19:32 (6,652 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Does it mean 'not North American'? Then we're definitely on the right track with Miele.

My favorite guess so far in this thread has been the pink toilet.



Post# 107856 , Reply# 47   2/4/2006 at 21:01 (6,652 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
Yup, gotta be a pink toilet.

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I would stand by my first guess, but there are more clues now.

North-American'ish?

Does the mystery machine have two 'brand' names?



Post# 107857 , Reply# 48   2/4/2006 at 21:01 (6,652 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Nordamerikanisch means she got a Norge combo!

Post# 107858 , Reply# 49   2/4/2006 at 21:16 (6,652 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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My guess is that a Miele W1070 washes a lot better than a pink toilet.


Post# 107860 , Reply# 50   2/4/2006 at 21:43 (6,652 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Ooooooh, I hear a DING-DING-DING-DING-DING correct-answer bell in your immediate future, sudsmaster.

gansky.....If your pink toilet is a pressure-flush model and you use an HE detergent, I think it would do an outstanding job of cleaning! Retrieving your clothing at the end of the cycle would prove challenging, however.


Post# 107878 , Reply# 51   2/4/2006 at 23:01 (6,652 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)        
Ps 107474 107733 107768 107819 Launderess

107474, 107733, 107768 Funny how the brain works, huh?
I didn't have no idea that the elevator was gonna get to the top floor, let alone the doors open!!!

107819(drift) So Laundress, do you wear full floor length dresses in dark colors and have a severe bun coiffure? They
are infrequent, but I do so love it when you submit a
question statement wherein the recipient is fully aware that
the only acceptable response is to stand at attention,
unblinking eyes in stony silence. You are closely related to Miss Manners; I know it!
Did you get the new fangled digital cam?
Save digits, set the Toast-R-Oven on top of the W1070!


Post# 108806 , Reply# 52   2/10/2006 at 07:01 (6,647 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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Am I dense or did I just skip right over something?

Has the item been revealed yet?

Steve


Post# 108811 , Reply# 53   2/10/2006 at 07:44 (6,647 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
AHhh!

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Lady Kenmore Combo from Nordamerikish!!!

Post# 108830 , Reply# 54   2/10/2006 at 08:51 (6,647 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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It appears that it's a Miele W1070. I tried to get more info on this model from the web, but didn't find out much, other than that it's an older residential model (I think). It may be desirable because of more flexibility in terms of combinng different temps, wash cycles, spin speeds, etc, than more modern computer controlled versions.



Post# 108842 , Reply# 55   2/10/2006 at 09:47 (6,647 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Calling Launderess.....calling Launderess.....

Where be pictures? We are craving the BIG REVEAL!!


Post# 108886 , Reply# 56   2/10/2006 at 15:27 (6,647 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada)        
Canadians are waiting too

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Come in, Launderess!! (tapping our stillettos)

Post# 108889 , Reply# 57   2/10/2006 at 15:47 (6,647 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
You Just Keep Right On Tapping

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*LOL*

Unit is due to be installed tomorrow, and have been that busy have not had a chance to take snaps, much less even bother with the unit sitting as of now in the middle of my front sitting room.

Will see what one can do later today or tomorrow after the Miele tech leaves. Weahter reports are calling for snow and one may have to make a dash for the shops after the service tech leaves to stock up.

L.



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