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Those Wacky People At Staber Industries, What Will They Think Of Next?
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Post# 704304   9/20/2013 at 18:23 (3,864 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Post# 704305 , Reply# 1   9/20/2013 at 18:27 (3,864 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        

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Doesn't seem too wacky to me. Lots of industries need controlled temperature cabinets for drying/curing etc. It might be a bit pricey though.

Having one at home to dry your shoes would indeed be VERY wacky!


Post# 704307 , Reply# 2   9/20/2013 at 18:54 (3,864 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Think of the possibilities: Sweaters on the top rack, beef strips for jerky in the middle, and wet sneakers on the bottom. I'm in!




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Post# 704311 , Reply# 3   9/20/2013 at 19:16 (3,864 days old) by frontloaderfan (Merrimac valley, MA)        
Eww..

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Wet sneaker flavor jerky? Not for me, thanks!

Post# 704314 , Reply# 4   9/20/2013 at 19:23 (3,864 days old) by washdaddy (Baltimore)        

hmmmm.....jerky sneaks, and foot fresh sweaters....what more could you possibly ask for? No home should be without it. LOL

Post# 704315 , Reply# 5   9/20/2013 at 19:30 (3,864 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
*Wacky*

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Was meant tongue in cheek, not literally.

Post# 704323 , Reply# 6   9/20/2013 at 20:17 (3,863 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Has anybody lived in an old apartment building with heated drying cabinets in the depths of the building where clothes could be hung on rods above the steam pipes to bake dry?

Post# 704324 , Reply# 7   9/20/2013 at 20:28 (3,863 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
Not wacky or far fetched at all.

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There are many industrial and food processing uses for climate controlled drying cabinets.  Many of these applications require VERY precise temperature, air purity and ambient humidity conditions where atmospheric drying/curing is not suitable. This type of cabinet in a modified form could also be used for controlled climate line drying of rugs and other delicate fabrics that can not be tumble dried in commercial laundries. 

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Post# 704329 , Reply# 8   9/20/2013 at 21:12 (3,863 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Again, Did Not ... Oh Forget It.

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Know very well what drying cabinets are for, but question if Staber's latest offering will prove anymore reliable and or durable then their top loading H-Axis washing machines.

Post# 704332 , Reply# 9   9/20/2013 at 21:39 (3,863 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        

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The top loading H-Axis washer, now that was wacky! ;)

Somehow I think it would be tough to mess up a metal cabinet with a heater in it, even for Staber!


Post# 704360 , Reply# 10   9/20/2013 at 23:55 (3,863 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

I beleive fire depts use these dryers for firemens' masks and helmets after cleaning them.

Post# 704365 , Reply# 11   9/21/2013 at 00:10 (3,863 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)        

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Didn't Whirlpool have something like this they called the Personal Valet?

Post# 704368 , Reply# 12   9/21/2013 at 00:16 (3,863 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        
Got your drift Laundress.

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Have seen those in bakeries as proofing cabinets.

There are times I have wanted one, Maytag built a drying cabinet for a couple years before their death by acquisition.



Post# 704380 , Reply# 13   9/21/2013 at 04:25 (3,863 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Drying cabinets or drying cupboards are very popular in Scandinavia. The one shown is indeed for firemen's equipment.

www.staber.com/page/476914167...

Perhaps the price is rather high because it is manufactured to certain standards?

Staber sells a household one too for a fraction of the price:

www.staber.com/dryingcabinet...



Post# 704384 , Reply# 14   9/21/2013 at 05:23 (3,863 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Perusing the "zoom" view of the ad pics, there's a label Industrial Drying Cabinet on the control panel.


Post# 704396 , Reply# 15   9/21/2013 at 07:28 (3,863 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

I remember ads for drying cabinets in 1920s and 30s shelter magazines before clothes dryers were invented. In the UK and some other European countries, a contraption was mounted above the AGA. It was a drying rack that could be lowered for hanging and removing laundry and then raised up to near the ceiling where it was out of the way while the clothes dried in the heat above the stove.

Post# 704407 , Reply# 16   9/21/2013 at 10:46 (3,863 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
We had a Flatley

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which was a free standing drying cabinet back in the 50's and they were fine as long as you like cardboard linen :o)

Austin


Post# 704450 , Reply# 17   9/21/2013 at 15:09 (3,863 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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These under-the-ceiling contraptions are still available today. Have seen them in several German catalogs.

Post# 704513 , Reply# 18   9/21/2013 at 19:41 (3,863 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Pulley Clothes Airers, Traditional Clothes Airers,Kitchen Ma

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Have been around at least since the Victorian age if not before. You can still purchase them new from a variety of places. All work on the same theory that heat rises so laundry was raised up towards the ceiling to take advantage of warmer air currents. It also got washing out of the way (depending upon ceiling height) so one could still move about.

Units range in size from what would fit into a small kitchen to huge long versions seen at great houses or estates or commercial laundries.

AGA range or whatever for most homes these things were located in kitchens since that is where the main source of heat could be found.

The downside to all this was all that one had to use a kitchen being under wet and dripping laundry. This also made the kitchen damp and or humid as well. Finally more likely than not washing became scented by whatever was being cooked. Cannot imagine what kipper scented laundry must be like.

AGA and similar ranges over the years sold various accessories to take advantage of the "always on" heat given off by these beasts. Persons in the USA whom have had AGAS installed (or purchased homes with them already there) seem to either love or hate the things.


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Post# 704524 , Reply# 19   9/21/2013 at 20:42 (3,862 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
American Ironer Company

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IIRC among others made those huge built in drying cabinets for domestic use. While one has been dying to find one just to see what they are about, no such luck.

It was recently after acquiring a vintage American Ironer product catalog the reason became clear; those units were built to order and installed. This probably means either they are still sitting in basements/homes or were ripped out in pieces and or otherwise destroyed when a house was demolished or major renovation.

One such drying system intact can be found at the beautiful Biltmore Vanderbilt estate in North Carolina. The place has every mod con for the era and as so often the case with such things nearly (or did it?) bankrupt the man who built it. Guess there are limits to even Vanderbilt money. *LOL*


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Post# 704559 , Reply# 20   9/22/2013 at 03:02 (3,862 days old) by DaveTranter (Central England)        
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Drying Cabinets.... A young couple known to me lived for a while in a flat ('apartment' Stateside, but probably less luxurious here!!) which had a built-in drying cabinet. They used it as a storage cupboard, since the price of running such a thing now would be prohibitive. Sadly, they moved from there a year or so ago, so I can't get you any photographs. :-(

Pulley Airers.... I have an old one, but have never installed it, also (this side of the pond) there was a popular type of airer which consisted of four nylon lines which could be spanned across the width of a room near ceiling height. I have a couple of these, too.

Top Loading H-Axis Machine (Reply #9).... My mother had a Zanussi TJ1043, which had this topography... Yes, weird is the word... It worked well enough though, until the recirculation pump failed.

All best

Dave T


Post# 704563 , Reply# 21   9/22/2013 at 03:35 (3,862 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Not Exactly A Full Sized Cupboard

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But one had to deal with what conditions on the ground allowed.

Am told these Flatley and similar dryers could burn linens inside to a crisp and or one's home if one wasn't careful.


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Post# 704564 , Reply# 22   9/22/2013 at 03:37 (3,862 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
How To Cope With Wet Washing

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Post# 704570 , Reply# 23   9/22/2013 at 05:46 (3,862 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
That laundry blog about life in the forties is not .....

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quite accurate as the gentleman describes a flatley as an airer stood on a heater these were made by a lot of different manufacturers Morphy Richards being one but the true Flatley dryer is that very cabinet you found the pictures of.
My Uncle had one of the heaters that sat under the damp washing with the airer fixed on top and it had to be just DAMP as any water dripping on the heater would cause it to short out. I remember the airer being used in front of the hot air vent in the spare room the heater from said airer no longer being used as it consumed a fair amount of electricity and as the heating would be on in winter why use more energy.

Another incident I recall now was back in 1980 ish I had done some laundry where I worked and there was a Flatley cabinet we used to dry stuff but I had not checked that the sheets were not too close to the heat and duly melted into a large blackened blob at the bottom of the cabinet Ooops after that I persuaded my employer to get a tumble dryer. No more melted nylon sheets.

Austin


Post# 704571 , Reply# 24   9/22/2013 at 06:07 (3,862 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Nylon Bed Linen

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Never understood why anyone in their right minds would be wanting sheets and pillow slips made of nylon. *LOL*

From Holland to UK through France one finds or found friends, their grandparents or merely from shopping boot sales and thrifts nylon bedding. Suppose it came as a welcome relief after generations of boil washing, mangling and ironing all that pure linen.



Post# 704583 , Reply# 25   9/22/2013 at 08:02 (3,862 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
Nylon sheets were/are the spawn of Satan

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When I was younger nylon sheets were the rage in the 70's and as Launderess says were a haven after linen but if like myself you suffered excema they were the most horrendous things to sleep in, my sister had them, there was a fitted bottom sheet and a top sheet that was part fitted IE it fitted at the foot of the bed they advocated they stayed put all night and as far as I was concerned they darn well did as every time I moved and little flake of dry skin would feel like an electric shock or the bloody sheets would catch on skin and so if you moved it was like static in the bed... Bloody awful and I made sure I never ever slept in them ever again I white cotton sheets at home and kept them until polyester cotton became the norm for sheets and pillow slips oh what a relief they were no more hateful nylon.. Just thought but does anyone in the UK remember the " Brentford Nylons " ad's?

Austin


Post# 704709 , Reply# 26   9/22/2013 at 17:27 (3,862 days old) by DaveTranter (Central England)        
Brentford Nylons

I remember.... I also remember the 'spoof' Deptford Draylons, whose advertisements kept cropping up in 'Balham - Gateway to the South'.

I fully agree, though.... Nylon bedding is truly HORRIBLE!!!!

All best

Dave T


Post# 704717 , Reply# 27   9/22/2013 at 17:48 (3,862 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Have Heard of European/UK Housewives

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That gave their husband's marching orders to bring back nylon linens when they travelled to the USA on business trips. That and or they purchased lots themselves when on this side of the pond for holiday. Again one can only imagine the idea of "easy care" came as a welcome relief from generations of laundering all that linen.

Nylon is *very* flammable and thus not the best thing for bedding, especially for infants and children unless treated to be flame retardant (if possible). Indeed early airline hostesses wore stockings made from silk because that fiber is less likely to burn than nylon. This was a huge safety bonus to stewardesses since a fire onboard could mean nylons could literally melt onto the skin of their legs.

As for cotton/poly blend bedding, you find tons of it at thrifts, estate sales and so forth, and quite a lot NIB.

Cotton/poly blends came about as part of the "easy care" revolution of the 1960's and 1970's that brought us polyester leisure suits. Depending upon the ratio of cotton to polyester such sheets and pillow slips would need little to no tumble drying (polyester is a hydrophobic fiber), and usually no ironing (polyester is also thermoplastic).

Cotton/polyester bedding was also meant to replace the previous entry point for linens; heavy cotton muslin.

Cotton muslin sheets and pillow cases though very long wearing are a pain to launder and iron (trust us, we know). Because the threads are thicker they absorb lots of water. That water must be spun out, then dried to a certain degree before ironing, and make no mistake you would be ironing muslin sheets. Leaving any sort of bed linen in those days not ironed was considered "poverty" and or a sign of sloppy housekeeping. Also muslin linens feel so much better when smoothed by ironing.

Sending laundry out solved the problem of the bother of dealing with muslin on laundry day but could become expensive. Commercial laundries often charged by weight of bundle. This means heavy sheets and pillow slips cost more to service than say percale. Indeed today many laundries that do hotel, hospital and other such bed linens often insist upon a certain blend of cotton/polyester because it makes for easier processing than pure cotton muslin. The establishments themselves see a reduction in cost because of the aforementioned difference in weight. Cannot recall the last time one saw pure cotton muslin sheets in a hospital or other healthcare facility, though one assumes they are out there.

Thing about polyester is that because it resists water it can be very difficult to get clean. Oils and certain stains do not shift easily either. All this is compounded by the fact polyester being a thermoplastic fiber cannot withstand very hot washes. As things stand you have to use various "permanent press" or "easy care" cycles with warm or barely hot water to prevent new creased from being set in for good.

To an extent the same problem happens with cotton/Lycra blends. Those Prada and other European men's shirts look great at first, but since they usually are dry clean only do not stay "fresh" and "clean" looking for long. Whites in particular can start to turn gray and dingy.


Post# 704719 , Reply# 28   9/22/2013 at 18:04 (3,862 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)        
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8 thousand dollars for this? Maybe I read it wrong. Stainless steel...give me the porcelain enamel model.

Post# 704949 , Reply# 29   9/23/2013 at 17:06 (3,861 days old) by mathewhebailey0 (port arthur tx)        

I've seen some instances in which clothes drying cabinets have been used to dry photographic prints & negatives,but seriously.

Post# 705078 , Reply# 30   9/24/2013 at 08:07 (3,860 days old) by chris74 ()        
H-axis yes...

...but from left to right, not as Euro counterparts who move from front to back. Interesting but I doubt the quality of Staber Industries.

Post# 705117 , Reply# 31   9/24/2013 at 13:34 (3,860 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

Indeed I thought about telling my parents to may get one. Our clothes room is in the cellar seperate and the is indeed space for such a thing and in winter, when the temperatures go down to 4°C down there and/or the air outside is wet, clothes take 3 or 4 day to get dry and that would solve the problem. Of course, they would choose even if they would take one the cheaper home modells in small and yeah, they would just do the things like thick sweaters (last year one took a whole week to dry after 2 months of continous frost and temperatures arround 2° down there), jackets, throusers etc., but it would be nice (I'm only 15, so don't say "Haha, you still live at your parents XD")
But any way, could not figure out if they use a heatpump as some of these do or are they conventional heated with vent?


Post# 705222 , Reply# 32   9/25/2013 at 03:56 (3,859 days old) by chris74 ()        
Don't believe they're heatpump driven

But at least they should feature a condenser system... I mean, these cabinets are really expensive.


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