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Surprise! The 1957 Hotpoint washer is up and running!
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Post# 705610   9/27/2013 at 07:47 (3,861 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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I've been keeping this one under wraps because I wasn't sure I'd get to it this year, but well, here it is!

Meet my first Hotpoint automatic washer, a 'basic' 1957 model!





Post# 705611 , Reply# 1   9/27/2013 at 07:49 (3,861 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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When I first got it, I was so excited that I tore the top off without taking any other photos...

Here's a first look inside the machine. Note the concrete balancing ring!


Post# 705612 , Reply# 2   9/27/2013 at 07:50 (3,861 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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The tub is in excellent condition.

Post# 705613 , Reply# 3   9/27/2013 at 07:51 (3,861 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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This is unusual - an all-porcelain cabinet.

Post# 705614 , Reply# 4   9/27/2013 at 07:52 (3,861 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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But when I realized the wash tub drains into the cabinet (à la early GE), it all made sense!

Post# 705615 , Reply# 5   9/27/2013 at 07:54 (3,861 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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Miraculously, the mechanics and electrics on the Hotpoint were all good! Timer, drive motor, and solenoids all worked.

But there was this hose issue to deal with....


Post# 705616 , Reply# 6   9/27/2013 at 07:55 (3,861 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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The original hose was a custom-curve affair. I knew I had little to no hope of finding a 'stock' replacement...

Post# 705618 , Reply# 7   9/27/2013 at 07:58 (3,861 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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So after a lot of head-scratching and ideas bounced around with Phil, I thought I could adapt some more or less standard plumbing parts to do the job.

First, the outer cabinet drain was replaced with a bathtub drain outlet.

Notice that it's holding vater!


Post# 705619 , Reply# 8   9/27/2013 at 07:59 (3,861 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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Yay , Paul I am glad you are getting to this one, I know that it would have been a long time before I got around to this one.

 

The all porcelain cabinet was sort of a necessity if they wanted any durability at all since the cabinet is the outer tub on this washer very much like the Frigidaire Uni-Matics, ABC-O-Matics and Kelvinators also used the cabinet for the outer tub on early design machines, Keep us posted, John.


Post# 705620 , Reply# 9   9/27/2013 at 08:01 (3,861 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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The adapted drain hose has more twists than an Alfred Hitchcock film...

I used a standard sink flange, cut down, spliced to 1 1/4 inch hose, reduced to a 1 inch hose and on to the pump.

There's a reason why I never worked in a nuclear power plant... LOL


Post# 705622 , Reply# 10   9/27/2013 at 08:03 (3,861 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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Well, it took a couple of tries, but I got it to stop dripping... So on to the water test!






Post# 705624 , Reply# 11   9/27/2013 at 08:10 (3,861 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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And I had to do a spin test...






Post# 705625 , Reply# 12   9/27/2013 at 08:12 (3,861 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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And here's the TAA-DAA - an agitated overflow rinse!

Now I MUST restore the 57 GE to compare it to it's Hotpoint 'cousin'!!






Post# 705638 , Reply# 13   9/27/2013 at 09:23 (3,861 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        

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oh that is so so cool I love it.. your the man

Post# 705639 , Reply# 14   9/27/2013 at 09:42 (3,861 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Great! Now you have to fit that somewhere in your laundry room!  If you need some space, I can help you getting rid of another machine!

 

LOL


Post# 705642 , Reply# 15   9/27/2013 at 10:01 (3,861 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Way to go Paul!  Your '57 is in really nice shape.  The center post looks great, and it sounds fine when spinning up.  Love your solution for the drain hose.  I would have done the exact same thing.

 

I feel bad that I haven't had a chance to scan those Hotpoint service bulletins yet.  Let me know if you still want them and I'll add them to this thread.

 

Ben

 


Post# 705645 , Reply# 16   9/27/2013 at 10:19 (3,860 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Wonderful machine and restoration Paul!!!! I'm thrilled otherwise everything works. I've used the bathroom basin sink drain port and tube trick myself quite a few times, it works perfectly. Just as a heads up, because I had to learn the hard way, you have to cut out the X in the center of the new drain sink opening, otherwise it gets clogged with lint overtime and slows the draining down to a crawl.

Post# 705653 , Reply# 17   9/27/2013 at 10:47 (3,860 days old) by jetaction (Minneapolis)        
Great job Paul!

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Love the overflow rinse, those were the days, ha!

Post# 705665 , Reply# 18   9/27/2013 at 11:42 (3,860 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Congratulations

Those round plugs near the ends of the control panel hump were where you could add a light canopy to the automatic washers and dryers.

Post# 705697 , Reply# 19   9/27/2013 at 13:33 (3,860 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
I love

To hear those solenoids SLAM BANG!!!!

Post# 705701 , Reply# 20   9/27/2013 at 13:53 (3,860 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Hotpoint!

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Real cool when I was small my parents had a BOL 55 hotpoint until 1961 than they got a near BOL 1961 model almost like your new surprise. The ones we had the tubs were a darker color. I love the short videos you made. Can you take a closeup of a control dial. On the 55 their was no pause before it went into a spin. On the 61 it paused for a minute before the spin. What does yours do? Keep us posted.
Best Wishes,
Peter




Post# 705746 , Reply# 21   9/27/2013 at 16:57 (3,860 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Very nice, Paul. Robert brought me my very first solid tub washer, a 64 Hotpoint 14 years ago and it's still one of my favorite washers. Love that long-neck Thriftivator!

Post# 706125 , Reply# 22   9/29/2013 at 15:08 (3,858 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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Robert - thanks for that tip about the 'X' at the bottom of the drain! I never would have thought of that.

Pete - as requested, here's a close-up of the dial. I'll spiff that up a little at some point (ie - when I figure out exactly where the Hoptpoint will go...I think a second row of washers will be coming soon to a laundry room in Ogden!)


Post# 706126 , Reply# 23   9/29/2013 at 15:09 (3,858 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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And here's a shot of the only other control on the Hotpoint. A nice sturdy toggleswitch... ;-)

Post# 706169 , Reply# 24   9/29/2013 at 18:49 (3,858 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        
Spin Pause question

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Pete - Sorry, I didn't answer your question about the pause before spin on this washer. There isn't one! The agitate solenoid drops and the beastie starts a-sppinn'!

Post# 706198 , Reply# 25   9/29/2013 at 21:18 (3,858 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Hotpoint!

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Paul thanks for posting this is really a beauty!
Peter


Post# 707229 , Reply# 26   10/4/2013 at 15:51 (3,853 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        
Hotpoint Docs

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Ben, I realized that I never answered you about the Hotpoint info that you have but yes, I definitely want them! So will anyone else who's got a Hotpoint... LOL



Post# 707308 , Reply# 27   10/4/2013 at 22:53 (3,853 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Hotpoint!

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I would love to see Hotpoint scans if available!
Thanks,
Peter


Post# 707322 , Reply# 28   10/5/2013 at 00:11 (3,853 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Your Hotpoint is very nice. Well done.
alr2903


Post# 707386 , Reply# 29   10/5/2013 at 14:36 (3,852 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Oh Paul

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nice surprise machine to spring on us all! Love the solenoid drive!!

Is too late to be using the Beam design transmission? And the idea of a second row of machines is just brilliant!

Can't wait to see you.



Post# 707486 , Reply# 30   10/6/2013 at 01:33 (3,852 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Paul,I had time this evening to watch your videos of the new Hotpoint. I wish there was one available at a dealer near me:-) Thanks again for taking the time to upload the videos. Arthur

Post# 707556 , Reply# 31   10/6/2013 at 13:33 (3,851 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        
Scans!

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Today is a dreary, cold day.  What better to do than scan some pages for Paul!

 

What I've scanned is all I have for service on these very short-lived mechanisms.  Robert did a write-up on his '56 endeavor a few years ago that has some great photos (link below).

 

From what I've been able to learn from these docs, it appears Hotpoint called their revised clutch system the "Centrifugal Clutch" mechanism, as it replaced the fluid drive clutch found on 1955 and earlier Hotpoints.  While the clutch was new, the trans/pump/motor assemblies stayed the same as the earlier Hotpoint/Bean unit.

 

In 1955 Hotpoint put the new clutch in one of their washers mid-way through the year, and in 1956 rolled it out on all washers.  Their Centrifugal Clutch lasted until 1958 when Hotpoint got away completely from the Beam transmission and produced their own, termed the Co-Axial transmission.

 

These are neat washers. The '56 I picked up in St. Louis earlier this year mechanically is in really nice shape, but the pump is shot.  Originally I thought I could just use some 60's/70's Speed Queen parts to fix the pump.  Unfortunately these earlier pumps have a smaller diameter pump shaft, and the pump shaft lengths are shorter, and the pump housing mounting is completely different.  Leave it to Hotpoint to change up the pump!  LOL

 

Paul, your Hotpoint is awesome.  Enjoy it in good health!

 

Ben

 

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What is funny here is the Hotpoint crest on my '56 is not located as shown below.  It is located down near the bottom of the machine with some ridges molded into the metal. 


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Post# 707661 , Reply# 42   10/6/2013 at 22:22 (3,851 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Hotpoint!

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My first experience with washer observation when I was just a Tot was the Hotpoint LH7 with the removeable lid. I remember it like it was yesterday. We had it until 1961!



Post# 707662 , Reply# 43   10/6/2013 at 22:24 (3,851 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Hotpoint!

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BTW the Hotpoint LH7 was a 1955 model!

Post# 866984 , Reply# 44   2/13/2016 at 11:43 (2,991 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Wow Ben

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I never saw these scans, now I know what went where ! Thank you for posting. I see its Beam up too a point and then Hotpoint all the way.

 


Post# 866993 , Reply# 45   2/13/2016 at 13:21 (2,991 days old) by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois)        
Nice

Looks good Paul, and you are so handy at rebuilding these machines. I wish you lived closer, my 1964 Frigidaire needs some work done on it so that the tub won't index when washing. Have fun, Gary


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