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Post# 707093   10/3/2013 at 21:05 (3,855 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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hello to all aw members,

do 2005 kenmor dishwasher contain cheap parts around 2010 the kenmore dishwasher me and my mom own the door rope broke on the right side we had it repaired now 2 years later the left side of the door rope breaks sometime i wonder and question my self since its just me and my mom if sometime we would be better off buying a refurbish kenmore dishwasher like this model built in of course

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because sometime i doubt the qualaty of newer model the dishwasher me and my mom own was replace in 2005 2 weeks after the kitchen was renovated the model we had before was a 1998 kenmore dishwasher but was leaking the model we own do not leak but the ropes for the door broke





Post# 707096 , Reply# 1   10/3/2013 at 21:34 (3,855 days old) by washer111 ()        
Should You Get an Older Kenmore?

The answer is NO. In case you hadn't seen the discussion here on the forums, those machines, along with those sold my Frigidaire, Tappan, Magic-Chef and countless other manufacturers were produced by D&M (Design and Manufacture).

Ask any of the people who repair dishwashers on here (Combo52, SteveT, RedCarpetDrew and others, I'm sure) and they will re-iterate what I am about to say:
Based on what I've read here by reading archived threads, those older machines were some of the cheapest, most unreliable dishwashers that were ever produced.

The Porcelain tubs were so thin that any chip, bump or crack could cause enormous rusting issues, the heated drying vented through the unprotected metal door, allowing it to rust, the black sump cover was really designed to COVER UP rusting issues, the timers were unreliable. The list goes on.
Following the move to Plastic tubs, as you'll see in the thread linked at the end of this paragraph, those rusting issues were eliminated, but reliability was still questionable (Read onwards after Nate's report to see "testimonies" from others who had owned the machines). Sure, these machines and the ones preceding them could clean very well, given quality Phosphate detergents, Hot water and Rinse-Aid, but even the models with "Filters" and Food-Disposers were highly capable of evenly coating every dish with ground up bits of food. There was another thread (Imperial forum, many years ago) that discussed that didn't happen (A performance test of the Roto-Rack WITH heated drying), combined with good old fashioned Phosphate detergent (perhaps with Chlorine?) and plenty of Rinse-Aid to stop stuff sticking, you might be okay.  
Machines of Ill Repute, Volume I - The Later D&M Kenmore: http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?37812


Fellow member "Launderss" owns one of the later model Frigidaire (rebadged Kenmore, or vice-versa) 18" dishwashers of the older design of the thread linked. It seems that dishwasher is capable of working very well, given Hot water and additional STPP for Pre-Wash and Main-Wash phases. So you might have similar luck with an equivalent model (which is what I'd recommend if you went "vintage.")

 

Really, if you are going to go somewhat vintage, you might just want to consider a builders grade or BOL machine, like a Hotpoint or GE dishwasher before EnergyStar tightly coiled around the necks of our machines. These machines might use water, and whilst being cheap builders machines are still highly capable (Especially with 7 or 8 water changes!). The thread below gives an idea about something I would personally take if I was in your situation. Besides, these machines are far simpler than the Rapid-Advance, Rusty Porcelain Kenmore machine you want - Turn to Start, 2 cycles. How much more simple can you get? Thread attached is another Canadian's report on a builder-model "Beaumark" (GE Rebadge) dishwasher. Based on information from member "bwoods," I think that model would be a Potscrubber 640 - A select model that included the Self-Cleaning Filter, but was essentially just a Potscrubber 600. 

http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?40536

 


Post# 707097 , Reply# 2   10/3/2013 at 21:44 (3,855 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)        

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We pulled our 2001 Kitchenpool machine out to replace the water valve and I was shocked to see a nylon rope wound over a series of pulleys to replace the door springs. I also found very thin and flimsy metal parts for the rest of the machine.

As far as the machine you placed in the link, I can't advise, but most vintage machines, IMO, are going to be made out of heavier and more durable materials than anything built in the last twenty-five years.




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Post# 707221 , Reply# 3   10/4/2013 at 15:33 (3,855 days old) by joefuss1984 (Little Rock, AR)        
nylon ropes over pulleys

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I have seen an older GE potscrubber with this setup.

Post# 707253 , Reply# 4   10/4/2013 at 16:38 (3,855 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
i think its sad to see that dishwashrs today have cheap part

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thank you everyone my actual dishwasher still works but its sad to see that todays models have cheap parts what is happening to good old fashion models that have springs that holds the door of the dishwasher

Post# 707300 , Reply# 5   10/4/2013 at 21:38 (3,854 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

We had a 1993 Kenmore dishwasher that the tub rusted out on after only 3 years. We replaced it with a Maytag and have had Maytag dishwashers ever since.


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