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What's with the quick wash? |
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| Post# 707989 , Reply# 1 10/8/2013 at 15:11 (3,849 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
The 3 main variables that effect the length of the cycle are load size, temperature and the amount of water used.
What you have to remember, Adam, is that not all that long ago, a washing machine would complete a cottons 40 cycle in under 50 minutes. Granted, this was in the days when washing machines were hot and cold fill and didn't take much time to heat up. People still remember that. You also have to remember that, unlike us, the general consumer doesn't give a flying fig about their washing machine and don't take any notice of the fact that machines are all now cold fill only. So your average customer doesn't think about it not washing as well, they think "my old Hotpoint/Hoover/insert other random brand washed in 50 minutes, why does this swanky new machine take 2 hours? It doesn't take that long!". Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of quick washes, but I also find excessively long cycles to be a complete waste of time. Anything over 90 minutes is just pointless IMO. Unfortunately, the days of hot and cold fill, 4kg capacity drums and rinse levels half way up the door are long gone. To be fair, the washing results of modern vs older machines is pretty much the same, it's just the method of reaching that result has changed a bit over the years. But people expect their 12kg LG's to do the same job as their old Hotpoint 9534 in the same time. It ain't gonna happen. But they don't care. To the general consumer, a washing machine is just a washing machine and they pay no attention to it. | ||
| Post# 707996 , Reply# 2 10/8/2013 at 15:51 (3,849 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
It all depends on the actual 'Quick Wash'
...and how it's programmed.
In my opinion, my Zanussi based machine is a good example of an effective quick cycle, partly because it's not a dedicated, separate cycle....rather it is selectable on every cycle except 'wool'. As an example, to select the 'quick wash' option on the 40c cottons cycle does this: - reduces the overall cycle time from 1:56 to 1:08 - reduces the rinses from 3 to 2 - reduces the 'cold' component of the cycle - the heater engages within 2 minutes rather than 10 minutes or so into the cycle. - reduces the length of the final spin by 2 minutes - introduces a 'wash top up' at 34 minutes remaining, effectively providing a more traditional high level wash for the last 5 minutes of the wash component and helping to remove dirt from the fibers. - the 2 rinses are also high level, to the edge of the flat portion of the door rather than the bottom of the door. So if you can reasonably assume that the water level is corrected within the first 8 minutes, then I get a 30 minute wash component, partly high level, with 2 high rinses....with intermittent spins and a final pump out and spin at the 8 minute mark. Unless the drum is more than 3/4 full, this is my normal default with the exception that sheets/towels get the 60c version which take 1:14. Even reasonably ground in dirt from gardening is shifted on this cycle....so just be conscious that not all machines, Miele or otherwise, are created equal with their cycles. | ||
| Post# 708005 , Reply# 4 10/8/2013 at 16:48 (3,849 days old) by JeffG () | ||
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"What you have to remember, Adam, is that not all that long ago, a washing machine would complete a cottons 40 cycle in under 50 minutes." 28 minutes on our TL Speed Queen. 24 for moderately soiled loads. | ||
| Post# 708040 , Reply# 6 10/8/2013 at 19:55 (3,849 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas) | ||
Quick wash is designed when you have a small load of several lightly soiled items that just need refreshed. I used it once, it worked for what it was intended.
Only time I notice it taking a long time for a regular wash is if I am wanting to go to bed and move the towels to the dryer, or if I am doing the beds. Thing I remember is I am washing about twice the amount of clothes in one load which more or less equals the time it would have taken for two loads with my old machine. Washman: My Kitchenaid says it takes longer to save energy. It will actually wash both racks at the same time, a full moderate normal soiled level will complete in about 1:40. I honestly don't care that much how long the dishes take, I leave them til the morning in most cases to unload. If there is compangy I will use the 1 hr wash, good results. | ||
| Post# 708101 , Reply# 8 10/9/2013 at 03:05 (3,849 days old) by NYCWriter () | ||
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Ben, you NAILED it! These so-called "green" initiatives -- many that have been turned into laws -- are forcing millions of people to mindlessly comply with a questionable agenda. | ||
Post# 708130 , Reply# 9 10/9/2013 at 09:12 (3,848 days old) by mattywashboy  (Perth, Western Australia) |
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I have just bought a Beko washer to replace my Electrolux. Im very very happy with it so far and have only used the Daily/Quick cycle so far. The great thing about this cycle is you can wash in any temperature and it adjusts the time accordingly but never exceeding an hour. I think the longest wash at 90 might be like 1:10 but thats as far as it goes.
It does three deep rinses with the recirculation jets on and at distribute speed so its a very intense rinse to watch. It does a shortish 600 rpm spin after the wash and second rinse and then does the softener rinse and final spin which is maxed out at 1400RPM. The spin speed max on the machine is 1600RPM. If i really want the 1600 spin i put the machine on the rinse hold on the daily quick wash and then start a full length spin at 1600rpm by shifting the cycle across to the Spin/Drain section. Clothes are clean and well rinsed so all in all the Daily Quick cycle on my new Beko is very impressive. I'll do a seperate thread on the Beko but heres a photo of it doing its Deep Distribute Spray Rinse on the Daily Quick cycle. Matt 
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