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Post# 709054   10/13/2013 at 15:12 (3,846 days old) by Washman (o)        

or dismay, depending on your perspective.













In the GE vids, you can plainly see the cheap sheet metal construction and the LG, well jeez oh man, never heard of a washer exploding like that.

More thankful than ever for the old school SQ top loader made from genuine metal let me tell you.




Post# 709065 , Reply# 1   10/13/2013 at 16:06 (3,846 days old) by thefixer ()        

The two GE washers have a failed mode shifter causing the basket to agitate along with the agitator.

Post# 709354 , Reply# 2   10/14/2013 at 20:06 (3,845 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Post# 709372 , Reply# 3   10/15/2013 at 00:04 (3,845 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

I think the problem with these machines is that the suspension is completely inappropriate to handle the spin speeds which they're programmed for.

When you watch these machines wash, the tub moves around all over the place, but on a conventional TL washer, the tub is much firmer and doesn't move around at all.

My guess is that in all of the LG/Samsung cases, an inappropriate cycle and spin speed was selected for the load the machine was given.

In saying that though, you'd think the machine would be intelligent enough to protect itself in the event where the tub starts banging against the walls of the machine!

As for the GE mode shifter issues, they've been known for a long time now and seem to be a common failure with the Hydrowave system. I think the only reason why they went in this direction is so they wouldn't have to build expensive transmissions, so they could keep the costs down and make more profit.

I can't honestly say that I'm fond of Japanese style large impeller tub top loaders and I don't think I'll buy another GE washer again, at least not until they bring back a more technologically advanced Filter-Flo system.

Post# 709384 , Reply# 4   10/15/2013 at 01:56 (3,845 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

For the machines shown and failed-give me a swap shop OLDER GE Filter Flow anyday over these peices of junk!For the LG "Congratulations!!You have bought a washer that junks itself!-And destroys your laundry room in the process-Endangers family members! What washer gives you so much action!!"
Those GE washer outer tub shots with the failed mode shifters are doing a good imitation of "ABOUT FACE!!!"Looks like the tank assembly will eventually twist off the mounts if that keeps up.Another peice of junk.These washers would be good for trash truck krusher demos.

Post# 709385 , Reply# 5   10/15/2013 at 02:06 (3,845 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

From the links shown--I am NOT inspired to buy a new washer-will shop at the appliance swap shops instead-those oldies but goodies!

Post# 709461 , Reply# 6   10/15/2013 at 13:55 (3,844 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

Well, I pretty much knew what happend to ALL the LG's that exploded after the first one.
There had been a video on YouTube where you can see the fault it self, but I can't find it anymore.
What was wrong was the whole kind of spin cycle they programmed on the E-Boards.
The spin had a designated balance-check-routine it did at the begining of every spin. Nothing wrong till know. But after a certain point the washer just did not care, because after this routine, all out-off-balance-sensors were deactivated because they thought, once the load is balanced, it is balanced and done with that. After that point, it is glued to the tub and cant move anyhow anymore.
But wrong. Most of the loads on the YT-videos contained water-proof items or really heavy, filled items, sometimes the filling was free to move even in side of this peace of clothing.
Now imagine, you have a soaked, washed and rinsed matress cover, filled with some soaky sinthetic and heavy cotton arround it. Because it is old/cheap/ washed wrong, the filling is not longer in its place fixed. So during the wash, it could move inside of the case. Somehow, during the last spin, they seperated into 2 halfs of the tub:
On one side, there is all the heavy cotton case and stuff
On the other, the is that as it self fluffy and easy synthetic, but because it is soaked, it is just as heavy as the other side of the tub with the cotton.
Washer does it routine, wash is balanced, and start spinning.
Now, the cotton is somehow holding back the water a bit. During speed up, the water stays in the filling for some time. At acertain speed (lets say 500-800rpm), the "proofing" can't stand anymore and all the water out of the filling gets out in one go.
But as things happend, now the balance in the tub is changed:
On one side, there is still the heavy cotton,
On the other side, there is the easy, no longer soaked syntehtic.
A perfect out off balance situation.
BUT WAIT! How can the washer sense this? The sensors are all off...
QED the washer just spins as it had no out of balance sensor at all. And with such big tubs and a non-quality suspension, this has to cause any kind of damage.
Same could be imagined with waterproof jackets which can't resist the presure anymore, best conditions if you add a filling as parameter...

Post# 709465 , Reply# 7   10/15/2013 at 14:28 (3,844 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

I will never own a machine where the tub is hung from the top instead of SUPPORTED from the bottom.

Post# 709503 , Reply# 8   10/15/2013 at 16:27 (3,844 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
This inspires me to:

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KEEP MY 1996 WHIRLPOOL GOING AS LONG AS I CAN! 

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