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Thread Number: 49058
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Post# 710387 10/20/2013 at 05:17 (3,833 days old) by Launderess  (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Look what MieleUSA has got to replace the short lived W48XX series.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO Launderess's LINK | ||
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Post# 710397 , Reply# 1 10/20/2013 at 06:11 (3,833 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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This is a semi pro machine. It was on the web page even in the times of the w48xx times, I think... | ||
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Post# 710400 , Reply# 2 10/20/2013 at 06:23 (3,833 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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Its nearly identical to my  | ||
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Post# 710420 , Reply# 3 10/20/2013 at 09:15 (3,833 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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I hope mine outlive me, but it's nice to know there is still a 230 volt Miele available here. | ||
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Post# 710459 , Reply# 5 10/20/2013 at 15:53 (3,833 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.) |
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Post# 710460 , Reply# 6 10/20/2013 at 16:08 (3,833 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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@henene4 's
Cannot ever recall seeing Miele's "Little Giants" on offer from a NYC much less anywhere else consumer website. Yes, the units have been around for ages, but do not think they were offered on AJMadison or elsewhere.
When one spoke with Miele earlier this year about what the plans were after the demise of 4XXX series, was told they were going to offer the "Little Giants". MieleUSA also has rolled out the w3037 to replace the w3033, but didn't look at the differences. L | ||
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Post# 710525 , Reply# 8 10/21/2013 at 02:28 (3,832 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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 Could any of our European friends tell us how expensive this is in its home market?
Starting from 4 000 USD and up - depending on where you look.
Alex | ||
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Post# 710529 , Reply# 9 10/21/2013 at 03:46 (3,832 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Could any of our European friends tell us how expensive this | ||
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Post# 710538 , Reply# 10 10/21/2013 at 05:11 (3,832 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Post# 710567 , Reply# 11 10/21/2013 at 08:58 (3,832 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.) |
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Thanks | ||
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Post# 710597 , Reply# 12 10/21/2013 at 13:28 (3,832 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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Well, see them online here for about 2400€, same the vented dryer matching. The condensor is about 300€ more, the WP version starts at 3200€ I think. The stachs are nice, but coast 12000€ IIRC, for that, get 2 octoPlus modells seperate and youre about 2000€ cheaper, I think... | ||
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Post# 710606 , Reply# 14 10/21/2013 at 14:15 (3,832 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Night & Day
Though one fought the good fight against "modern" computer controlled units, the Lavamat is vastly better than my Miele 1070 in many ways.
First and foremost it accelerates spinning slowly and if it detects excess froth or water things will slow down or even stop. Then pump will keep working whilst machine drum goes to and fro then starts up slowly spinning again. For towels and any other load that is very absorbent this is a god send. On the Miele it simply slows down spinning and keeps the pump going. However if the spin cycle times out that is all she wrote, laundry is going to be rinsed with that soapy water still in the tub and sump. The manual for "Big Bertha" suggests that for heavy loads such as towels the machine should be slightly under loaded, you now know why. | ||
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Post# 710607 , Reply# 15 10/21/2013 at 14:18 (3,832 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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You Can Find Used Miele "Little Giants" on CL
Have posted listings before and Florida seems to be prime hunting territory. Many those units seem to come from yachts or ships which given the money found in South Florida makes sense.
Problem with Little Giant washers and dryers is their unusual for the USA power requirements. Did not look at the unit listed on AJMadison to see if things have changed. | ||
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Post# 710612 , Reply# 16 10/21/2013 at 14:42 (3,832 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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Nope, they are dryer like connection I think, haveing a heater of 6kw I think,enabling the heaven of 195° washes. Ones washed whites on that you will never like to miss it again. *ahhhh, what a dream of the smell of a boil wash* | ||
| Post# 710710 , Reply# 17 10/21/2013 at 23:51 (3,832 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
6kW boil heaters in a country where electric costs 3x what it does here? Quite the extravagance. Try this:
Wash half your bedding in the 6kW heater, fold and set aside. Wash the other half as follows. Half fill the washer with tap hot (120F). Add detergent and 6 drops food-grade iodine (Lugol's), stir. Add bedding and complete fill and cycle. Fold and compare smells. Iodine kills EVERYthing, and does not attack fabric like sodium hypochlorite does. Substantially cheaper than boiling at 35c/kWh. | ||
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Post# 710732 , Reply# 18 10/22/2013 at 06:12 (3,831 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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The heater is more about getting water hot fast. Miele's Little Giants have cycle times like Speed Queens and consumers in this country expect the water be warm or hot (not necessarily boiling) throughout the wash. Even with hot fill, which these units have, a powerful heater is better than a weak one.
I have used commercial front load washers that lacked proper heating in the past and - even with hot water going in - the actual wash was only warm. Alex | ||
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Post# 710801 , Reply# 19 10/22/2013 at 10:49 (3,831 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany) |
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I`ve tried the iodine (Povidone) as suggested in another thread for a smelly shower curtain and it worked very well indeed.
Still would not use it on a regular basis, because I don`t know much about it`s safety. I wonder if there might be another reason apart from possible staining of whites why it is normally not used for laundry? Thyroid problems from long term exposure on the skin come to my mind as well as possible environmental risks. Maybe it effects the needed bacteria in waste water treatment? I don`t know. As to 6kW heaters and energy costs, it`s just about quick heating in a commercial washer. A boil wash in that Miele PW6065 should not exceed 2 to 3 kWh, that is approximately the same as an average US toploader consumes on a warm wash when connected to an electric water heater. | ||
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Post# 710833 , Reply# 20 10/22/2013 at 12:48 (3,831 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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Think that 3kWh on cold fill are okay. Keep in mind: The heater on this washer just runs about 20-30min on a boilwash. Our Panasonic uses about 2.5kWh for a full 8kg boil wash, but 100l+ with the 3rd rinse on, and water coast way more arround here... | ||
| Post# 710979 , Reply# 21 10/23/2013 at 02:31 (3,830 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
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6 drops of iodine solution in 6 gal of water, followed by several rinses, is not going to leave a problematic (health) residue in finished laundry. I mean like, JMO, I'm not a physiologist.
Iodine is indeed a potent stain/dye. But again, see dilution ratio above. I've used it in laundry and didn't notice anything turning red. DID notice the "fresher than fresh (city) air" smell, whereas chlorine leaves a chemical-factory smell and literally eats fabrics. Just a suggestion anyhow. | ||
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Post# 711236 , Reply# 22 10/24/2013 at 17:37 (3,829 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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| Post# 711285 , Reply# 23 10/25/2013 at 00:02 (3,829 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
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According to internet sources, temperatures above 130F/55C kills dust mites. This need not take place in the wash phase, as almost all dryers reach or exceed that temperature. I don't know how well a dilution of iodine low enough not to stain would kill them or their eggs.
*I think* we got the whole 'boil wash' idea from hospitals. Which are trying to keep people from catching diseases they didn't come in with. IOW, other people's bugs. Yet hospitals are notorious places to get sick with things you didn't have to start with. Despite all their heroic measures. OTOH, if your clothes and bedding didn't make you sick when you were using them, why would they make you sick after washing them? They're not 'other people's', they're YOURS or your immediate family's. If one means commercial laundromat machines, run them empty through the hottest cycle with a heavy dose of sodium hypochlorite to kill 'other people's' bugs before putting YOUR stuff in. That in fact is what I do, now that I am reduced to living in an institution which prohibits private laundry machinery. | ||
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Post# 711495 , Reply# 26 10/26/2013 at 13:39 (3,827 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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Yep, and today it's the opposite of it in the most cases... | ||
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