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Post# 712841   11/2/2013 at 19:57 (3,826 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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hello to all aw members,

i am in need of advice for my future sister in law she wents to buy a new washer dryer set topload with wash plate no front load washer but she ask me about the lg topload washer with wash plate should she buy an lg topload with wash plate or go with a samsung topload washer with wash plate or go with a maytag bravo or whirlpool with wash plate because if it was me i would advise my future sister inlaw to consider hubesch topload with agitator with matching dryer.

And also what is a good brand of dishwasher but this is another thread and this is for a future home that my sister in law and my brother are planing on buying soon

thank you for any advice given on the subject




Post# 712850 , Reply# 1   11/2/2013 at 20:16 (3,826 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Well...

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if she is dead set on a wash-plate machine, I would recommend the higher end Maytag Bravos.  Not the belt drive machine, the direct drive.  Steer clear of the LG and Samsung machines, in my opinion.  Otherwise, the GE might not be a bad choice, but it is awfully new to the market to see if it has escaped the spin-splosion problem.

 

Malcolm
Post# 712855 , Reply# 2   11/2/2013 at 20:27 (3,826 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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thank you for the advice and also do you have any tips for my future sister inlaw my brother girlfriend on how many time she should clean her washer using hotwater since she plans on washing everything using cold water me even do i wash using cold water certain items i use the warm water temp on my washer and me i plan for my next daily driver to go back to a topload washer mostly the ge washer with power rinse but one thing i plan to do is dislove the detergent in warm water then swtich to cold water for the rest of the fill and agitation but to disolve the detergent i would set it to warm let the washer start filling to the first row of holes using warm water then as soon as i see the detergent disolve switch to cold

Post# 712861 , Reply# 3   11/2/2013 at 21:12 (3,826 days old) by dustin92 (Jackson, MI)        

There's no sense in even washing the clothes if you are going to wash in cold water, especially in a HE machine (top load or front load). They just won't get clean. I don't care how much detergent or what cycle is used, it just won't happen. If they are dead set on using cold water for everything, tell them to buy a traditional agitator machine, preferably the cheapest one available. In my opinion, the only way to get clean clothes from a high-efficiency machine is to use a long cycle and hot water. That is from personal experience, we had a front loader, and I never felt that the clothes were truly clean. We are now using a top load agitator machine, and I use warm or hot water for everything, but cold will get lightly soiled clothes acceptably clean.

Post# 712866 , Reply# 4   11/2/2013 at 21:23 (3,826 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
i tend to agree i have a front load

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i have a 2004 duet washer and no matter what temp i use cold warm or hot i feel sometime clothes do not get clean they are but mostly not to my taste as if they where submerge in water and agitated but living with this as long as my duet set works but living with this minor contraint until its time to replace them

Post# 712891 , Reply# 5   11/3/2013 at 00:15 (3,825 days old) by dustin92 (Jackson, MI)        

Try using the longest cycle (heavy, towels, whatever it might be), and hot water for everything. That is what I ended up doing with our front loader, and it produced fairly clean clothes. Could you please do us all a favor though? Try to use Capitialization at the beginning of a sentence, commas where appropriate, and periods (.) at the end of a sentence. It makes it far easier to read than one sentence that goes on forever and ever. Thanks!

Post# 712901 , Reply# 6   11/3/2013 at 01:16 (3,825 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

I would advise against washplate washers entirely. Frontloaders do cost more, but they do a much more effective job cleaning clothes (This is debatable), they consume less water, less soap and are easier on clothing because there isn't any friction between an agitator and the clothing. These are pretty much undisputed facts.

If I absolutely had to consider a top loader, I would sooner consider a traditional agitator based machine over a washplate anyday and for that, there's only Huebsch in my eyes. If Huebsch isn't available, then Whirlpools conventional agitator top loaders are proven for the most part.

I don't honestly understand why anyone would clean their clothing with cold water, unless the clothing label explicitly says that the clothes must be washed in cold water. (ie. Wool) Anything which touches my body gets sweat, bacteria and other schmutz on it, I want to kill as much of that bacteria as possible.

Here's one way to think about it.. Purchasing a machine is a rather expensive thing to do. You wouldn't drive a vehicle without changing the oil, why encourage someone to always wash with cold water when it will shorten the life of the machine?

As for a Dishwasher, I'm a big fan of Miele's dishwashers, Bosch a close second. They are quiet, effective and reliable. The only problem is that they are difficult to get service for in comparison to other brands. If I was going to consider a domestic brand, it would also be Whirlpool. The only thing that bothers me about Whirlpool dishwashers is that the racks tend to rust and the damn rinse aid dispensers always end up leaking.

Just IMHO.

Post# 712904 , Reply# 7   11/3/2013 at 02:50 (3,825 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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thank you qualin but the advice is for my future sister in law in other word my brother girlfriend and for the dishwasher i will tell them but will also tell them to look when buying a house as sometime they can have a brand new unit included with the house

Post# 712909 , Reply# 8   11/3/2013 at 05:36 (3,825 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

Washer-wise I personally consider a Fisher&Paykel with washplate. They can wash both HE and conventional, are easy to service and parts are not to expensive...

Post# 712922 , Reply# 9   11/3/2013 at 06:58 (3,825 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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thank you henene4 its a good option

Post# 713033 , Reply# 10   11/3/2013 at 19:13 (3,825 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

Generally what is included with a house is a "Contractors Special" which is usually a BOL or MOL machine which the contractor tends to get cut rate because they buy so many of them.

In a lot of cases, when a new house is being built, the owner to be doesn't really have much say in what they get, they get whatever the builder buys. As a result, since the machines have already been paid for, most people run them to failure and replace them only when it is needed.

Think of it this way though, we're talking about a discounted range, dishwasher, fridge, washer, dryer, furnace and water heater. That can save thousands of dollars off the price of the home when bought with contractors discounts.

So, chances are, most new houses today would either use GE, Samsung, Whirlpool or LG front loaders and GE/Whirlpool as a dishwasher. It's not the BEST thing to use, but it'll do the job. For how long, who knows?

When buying a house with a previous owner, the seller usually mentions in the sales contract that the appliances will be included. Otherwise it's just too expensive to replace all of the appliances in the house at once.

I would NOT advise telling them that they need to exclude the appliances from the sales contract. Even if the appliances are inferior, it will still take years before they break down and require replacement. They will usually fail one at time instead of all at once.

You should only be providing advice on what to buy when it is warranted and required. Otherwise it will fall in deaf ears and be ignored.

Regardless of the advice I'm giving, If they are stuck on the idea of a washplate machine, all you can do is convince them that they won't be happy with one if they buy one due to previous experiences a lot of us have had. The experiences on this forum tend to say a lot.

Post# 713045 , Reply# 11   11/3/2013 at 20:16 (3,825 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
i agree

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I tend to agree,

my sister in law and my brother ask me to join them when they go shoping for there new appliance if it was me i have look at the wash plates washers and for me it do not suite my needs i think i will suggest my sister in law and my brother to look in stores where they have machines hookup for demo i think even do it has an agitator of trying to advise them witch would be a better choice to go with huebsch the canadien version of speed queen this model to be precise zwn432 with matching electric dryer i would not see my brother or my sister in law constenly calling a tech because they have problems with a wash plate washer and since they only wash in cold water it would be a better choice and has for the dishwasher here are the brands i am considering suggesting to them

1 a bosch dishwasher

2 a kitchenaid model (*kitchenaid experts needed here please thank you)

3 general electric

4 miele (**depending on there budget)

5 kenmore elite (quiet dishwasher models

6 whirlpool

7 maytag

8 general electric or fridgedair

*for fridgilux what can you tell me on the new affinaty topload washer models with wash plates are they better than lg or samsung?

Post# 713047 , Reply# 12   11/3/2013 at 20:28 (3,824 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
oh i am forgeting something

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before i forget do you know if in canada there are stores that still sell brand new classic direct drive washers of pass years before the new enerygy star norms from 2000 to say 1993? like this


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