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1964 Frigidaire running again, sort of? |
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Post# 717091 , Reply# 1   11/22/2013 at 16:35 (3,778 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Gary for the 1964 line Frigidaire used the Mutli-matic transmission but towards the end of the production run used the Roller-matic transmission. Each one is completely different and we would need to know which transmission you have. Unfortunately the problem you describe will most likely require major service and a new part or two.
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Post# 717099 , Reply# 2   11/22/2013 at 17:03 (3,778 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 717108 , Reply# 3   11/22/2013 at 17:27 (3,778 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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If you have the Jet Cone agitator, you have the Roller-Matic. If you have the gray plastic agitator with the Energy ring at the bottom and a blue and a green ring on the barrel, you have the Multi-matic. |
Post# 717140 , Reply# 4   11/22/2013 at 19:45 (3,778 days old) by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois)   |   | |
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Thanks for the news. The agitator that I have looks like the one in the picture above. Energy ring (rubber)? and blue and green rings on the barrel. I must have the Multi-matic transmission then? Now what do I do and where are parts available? Thanks, |
Post# 717153 , Reply# 5   11/22/2013 at 21:06 (3,778 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 717165 , Reply# 6   11/22/2013 at 21:39 (3,778 days old) by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois)   |   | |
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Thanks, I'll do that tomorrow and post what I find. Gary |
Post# 717271 , Reply# 7   11/23/2013 at 12:36 (3,777 days old) by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois)   |   | |
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HI everyone, There are 2 belts on the washer so I guess it is a multimatic transmission. What do I do next? Thanks, Gary |
Post# 717293 , Reply# 8   11/23/2013 at 16:51 (3,777 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Hi Gary, the very first thing you are going to need to do is study the makeup of the Mutli-matic mechanism. I caution you that the symptoms you describe will require a major transmission repair.
The service manual describes those symptoms as: If washer agitates and spins during wash period: Wobble plate or agitator shaft bearing tight or binding. Worn brake lining. Broken brake torque spring. Brake tension clip missing or weak tension on clip. If I would have to guess I would guess that it's a Broken brake torque spring, but that is just a guess and it could be something else. Of course it might be something as simple as the oil is gone and making the wobble plate bind. Then you just have to refill the transmission. But I highly doubt its going to be that simple. I don't have the 1964 Frigidaire washer repair manual on Automatic Ephemera yet. I can try and get that done in a week or so, after I get my next round of postings made on Ephemera early next week. You can download the 1962 washer manual if you haven't already as it will be a good reading and its close to what you will be dealing with. The other problem is parts. They are simply not easily found. But that can be dealt with after you figure out what is wrong. |
Post# 717308 , Reply# 10   11/23/2013 at 18:54 (3,777 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Oh no Gary, that's not even close. What you are talking about is on the outside of the mechanism. The brake spring I'm referring to is deep inside the transmission and they are very different.
The whole mechanism needs to be drained of oil, then the transmission completely taken apart to reach that brake spring. |
Post# 717329 , Reply# 12   11/23/2013 at 21:24 (3,777 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)   |   | |
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Is there any company out there that will overhaul one of these transmissions or sells swap out rebuilt ones? |
Post# 717330 , Reply# 13   11/23/2013 at 21:30 (3,777 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 717337 , Reply# 14   11/23/2013 at 22:15 (3,777 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 718597 , Reply# 15   11/30/2013 at 16:52 (3,770 days old) by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois)   |   | |
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HI there, The washer was working just fine when it was disconnected a few years back. Perhaps I should check on the oil level in the transmission. Where do I do that and what weight oil should I add if it needs it? Thanks, Gary |
Post# 718671 , Reply# 16   12/1/2013 at 10:35 (3,770 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 718697 , Reply# 17   12/1/2013 at 16:25 (3,769 days old) by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois)   |   | |
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That sounds like a great idea. Thanks again. Gary |
Post# 718732 , Reply# 18   12/1/2013 at 20:13 (3,769 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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I recently repaired the transmission in my 1964 Frigidaire single speed Deluxe Multimatic. The hardest thing was to find some of the parts for it but reassembly of this transmission is also a bit tricky. Be sure to have the service manual if you do it. I have one that I haven't scanned yet. CLICK HERE TO GO TO PhilR's LINK |
Post# 718841 , Reply# 19   12/2/2013 at 15:36 (3,768 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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OK the 1964 Frigidaire Washer Service Manual is now scanned and loaded into Automatic Ephemera. Gary figure 96 on page 83 of the manual shows you how to drain the oil.
You will need to turn the machine on it's side, remove the oil drain plug and drain the oil. To refill with fresh oil, go to Ace Hardware and pick up a bottle of Ace Hardware Air Compressor oil. You will need to measure out and put in 26oz of fresh oil. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Unimatic1140's LINK |
Post# 718935 , Reply# 20   12/2/2013 at 23:46 (3,768 days old) by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois)   |   | |
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I downloaded a copy of the manual. I will have to get under there and check things out. Thanks again and I shall stay in touch. Gary |
Post# 719007 , Reply# 21   12/3/2013 at 12:00 (3,767 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 719010 , Reply# 22   12/3/2013 at 12:47 (3,767 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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And I hope yours gets back to normal very soon. When I got deep into a Unimatic issue, I called a long-established washer shop here, and specifically asked for an older guy who had experience with Unimatics; they had one.
Worth a try if you get anxious, and no one is around when you really need to get going on it. |